Comments on: Obama Condemns Pastor's Fiery Remarks

Says He Has Looked To Rev. Jeremiah Wright For Spiritual Advice, Not Political Guidance

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by ksh1022 March 17, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
If you think Obama belonging to a racist church and being endorsed by Farrakan is "just fine with you" then perhaps you have either had too much kool-aid or you are not a true American. There are many things wrong with our country but we are still the best place in the world to live. Just ask Obama and his Ivy league education paid for with grants and scholarships. Belonging to an "America hating church" and having a racist as a "spiritual advisor and friend" is NOT ok for someone running for the office of President. I wouldn''t recommend it to any one but we do have free speech in this country. That is what makes our country great. I just want to make sure that whoever wins the office of the President truly does have our best interest at heart. I''m not sure Obama Wright and Farrakan do.
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by taddles-2009 March 17, 2008 6:17 PM EDT
"Let''''s stop hate. Let''''s stop Obama.

Posted by wendy_lady_ at 02:19 PM : Mar 17, 2008"


What an absurd comment. Obviously reading is not your strong suit.
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by concorde5 March 17, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
None of what I have seen from Rev. Wright is racist. Let''s remember that Obama''s mother is WHITE. Would he attand a church that is racist against whites if his own mom is white? It doesn''t make sense. We should not rush to judge.
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by greatdrivew March 17, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
ATTENTION READERS: The McCain/Clinton hate-machine is foaming at the mouth on this comment board. They treat facts like the plague, and the plague like faacts.

However, to get a good idea of who they and their candidates are, it''s recommended that, however vile, you read their deluded messages hate and ignorance.

Then, after having your fill of yesterday''s politics, come join We the People at the Obama Coalition.
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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:42 PM EDT
Have a great afternoon folks, time to check my systems! Enjoyed the visit.
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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:39 PM EDT
Posted by SamTheTVCat at 02:28 PM : Mar 17, 2008

I don''t know the answer to your question, SamTheCat. I can only suppose some are disillusioned. Some are just naturally elated by scandal. And some didn''t support him in the first place.
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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:34 PM EDT
But then one HAS to give Barack''''s pastor the same leeway to be anti-American in his belief of black rights - I''''m sure that''''s why he says it . . .




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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 02:24 PM : Mar 17, 2008

Do you consider teaching your congregation of some 8,700 people that they are opporessed, abused, and should hold themselves separate as being appropriate behavior? Remember that church honors Mr. Farrakhen and others who support hate of the United States?

Why would you want to teach your people such an idea, when they are so obviously free?
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by samthetvcat March 17, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
---"I have never opposed Mr. Obama because of his race."---
Posted by RowdyTexan2

Yes, that''s very true. I''m not saying AT ALL that anybody who doesn''t support Barack is racist, not at all. But some supporters of other parties do seem to be striking while the iron is hot, so my interest is in addressing that angle. I greatly respect your opinion Rowdy!
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by samthetvcat March 17, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
---"Let''s not make the deadly mistake of giving Obama the power to become the next Hitler"---
Posted by wendy_lady

Is that the fear? That Barack''s going to become a black hitler and seek to exterminate you? Barack wants to perpetrate mass genocide?
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by samthetvcat March 17, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
---"Most of the people flying the Confereate flag believe in state''s rights, and that''s why they fly it."---
Posted by RowdyTexan2

But then one HAS to give Barack''s pastor the same leeway to be anti-American in his belief of black rights - I''m sure that''s why he says it . . .

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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
RowdyTexan2, I guess my point is that anti-American sentiment is actually a significant tradition and played a fundamental part in shaping our nation''''s history, particularly as it relates to race relations.

So for the first time in history, people are taking a close look at what happens in black churches and they''''re ''''shocked'''' at what they see . . . REALLY, you''''re all shocked? It''''s the American way, why the shock?




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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 02:11 PM : Mar 17, 2008

I have known about Mr. Obama''s church since the first article about it came out August 7th. I was not shocked at all. And I have consistently on these boards spoken to Mr. Obama''s obvious lack of credentials for the job he''s applying for, and left out the mention of race. Although I did wonder why the media kept so quiet about it. And since then I did see a couple of people mention it on these boards, and everyone accused them of racism and flogged them like dogs.

I have never opposed Mr. Obama because of his race. But I''ve known since last August when I researched his politics in Illinois, his credentials for the job, and realized he was presenting himself as above politics as usual when he clearly was not.
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by wendy_lady_ March 17, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
Obama''s mother was white.
Hitler''s mother was a jew.

Let''s not make the deadly mistake of giving Obama the power to become the next Hitler.

Let''s stop hate. Let''s stop Obama.
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by wonderful122 March 17, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
Klansman support McCain and Hillary. Is that guilt by association?
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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
Flying the Confederate flag on government buildings was a political issue as late as 2000.


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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 01:51 PM : Mar 17, 2008

Most of the people flying the Confereate flag believe in state''s rights, and that''s why they fly it. Plus it is a part of history that we should all understand and view from both sides so that we learn from it.

Some just fly it because they are just rebellious in all things.
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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
Mr. Lincoln was not just disliked by the south. The elite members of his own party resented him and politiced against him. They could not understand how this country bunkin got to be so powerful.

But Mr. Lincoln was smart and wiley. He approached his party enemies, and even forced one of them to become attorney general because that''s where he thought he should be. And he charmed the rest.

Very intersting politician was Mr. Lincoln.
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by samthetvcat March 17, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
RowdyTexan2, I guess my point is that anti-American sentiment is actually a significant tradition and played a fundamental part in shaping our nation''s history, particularly as it relates to race relations.

So for the first time in history, people are taking a close look at what happens in black churches and they''re ''shocked'' at what they see . . . REALLY, you''re all shocked? It''s the American way, why the shock?

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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
Posted by SamTheTVCat at 01:46 PM : Mar 17, 2008

If you will read your history, there were slave holding people also still in the north at the time the Emancipation Proclamation was enacted, and they did not free them until then.

Politics has been dirty since George Washington. It hasn''t changed one whit.
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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
Isn''''t there some injustice in the fact that one hundred years after the Civil War ended, the anti-American whites'''' descendants still had more rights than blacks? Maybe blacks feel that if whites have a right to express anti-American sentiment and all is forgiven and decades later they can wrap themselves in the banner of patriotism, then they can too just like the former owners of their ancestors (?)


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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 01:49 PM : Mar 17, 2008

I would say that the Emancipation Declaration and at least two other pieces of civil rights legisation says that we are ALL free in this country.

I see that we can all eat, drink, be merry, and live productive lives if we choose to do so, can go anywhere we want to, sit together in church, in school, and live wherever we want to. And those who don''t believe in separation have litterally shaken the bushes to make it so. But then I don''t see myself as separate, better, stronger, or more deserving than anyone else.
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by claytonantho March 17, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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Hey people, LISTEN UP! Rev. Wright is NOT running for president here! Rev. Wright is NOT Obama. Get a clue! After PA., Rev. Wright won''''t matter, because when the ''''lil woman loses, she''''ll have no choice but to abanadon her pipe-dream about becoming a women president. Again, so everyone can put this nonsense to rest--Rev. Wright is NOT run ning for president. Got it?!

Hey People listen up!! Barack Obama was not born with ideals and knowing how the world works. He got everything from influence. That includes mama and daddy and also his "Spiritual Mentor". He will bring those ideals to the presidency from his mentors. If that don''t scare you, nothing will. GOT IT

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by rowdytexan2 March 17, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
But why not stay connected to the Union and engage in dialogue? My point being that Southern white states have the greatest history of anti-Americanism pursued to keep blacks silenced and disempowered . . .


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Posted by SamTheTVCat at 01:46 PM : Mar 17, 2008

Actually, the Carolina state the seceded first, seceded because Mr. Lincoln was republican and they did not like republican politics.

The issue of slavery did not in fact enter the equation until the third year of the war when Mr. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Declaration. At which time he said that black people should be free, but that they should never consider themselves equal to whites and that whites should always be considered the superior to blacks.

The war, in fact was about economics and politics. But emancipation was a noble piece of politics that worked well to promote the south as evil, didn''t it?
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