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Former VP Candidate Suggested Obama's Success Is Only Because He's Black

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by libra127 March 12, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
If she was so essential to Bill Clinton''s AR governorship race, why didnt she run for it instead?

Posted by dschellb at 01:45 PM : Mar 12, 2008

According to Bernstein, she considered it. But contrary to so many people''s false conception that she is power-mad, she decided to teach law, be an activist for children''s rights, work as a lawyer, and support Bill''s career at that time.
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by dschellb March 12, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
"Oh give me a break! How can Geraldine be fired when she wasn''''t hired - she is like me, I support Hillary and contribute to her campaign because I think she is good for America."

When one is a fund raiser for a campaign it is more than just an individual who supports a given candidate.

Suppose Farahkhan had been a fund raiser for Obama? Would that have been acceptable? Certainly not. If Hillary were really sincere about disavowing Ferraro she should return the funds she received from any fund raising activities
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by libra127 March 12, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
It could therefore be argued that she was a liability rather than an asset.

Posted by dschellb at 01:49 PM : Mar 12, 2008

Perhaps. You could also say that Bill has mostly been a liability in her campaign for the Presidency.
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by sierra20071 March 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
Oh give me a break! How can Geraldine be fired when she wasn''t hired - she is like me, I support Hillary and contribute to her campaign because I think she is good for America. I say things that isn''t always lock-step with Hillary''s ideology - so what!! I mean, i''m just waiting for Sharpton & Jackson to start chiming in with all their rah-da-dah. Barack is supposed to be the candidate of change, well he sure loves playing this OLD race card thing. He better develope a thicker skin and stop the nonsense. I remember when he first started his campaign and he distanced himself from the black race, up until he reached South Carolina when he flipped the script on us and became the Black Candidate, cause he needed the Black Vote. C''mon Barack is supposed to be above all this - are his changes only going to apply to all but the blacks - blacks can continue to be racist and all others must learn to get along...? Now, we aren''t allowed to talk about this and the media won''t, as Barack is their darling - Go figure.
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by laurencefla March 12, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
If Hillary Clinton gets the Democratic nod, they can say goodbye to the White House.

Middle aged white women will vote for Clinton because she is a middle aged white woman (all the while insisting that it''s really about her ''experience''). Everyone else will vote against her because she is Hillary Clinton.

Geraldine Ferraro is missing the point, but she''s hardly unique in that respect.

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by dschellb March 12, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
"One could equally well say that Bill succeeded in winning the Governership of AR and thus starting his path to the Presidency in large part due to Hillary''''s efforts on his behalf."

But she flubbed her attempt at reforming health care in the 1990s because of political skills. That crippled the Clinton administration and enabled a Republican takeover a few years later. It could therefore be argued that she was a liability rather than an asset
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by smashwl7 March 12, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
Hillary is only wining some states because she is a White Woman. She would not be even be in this race if she was a White Man. Geraldine Ferraro is A FEMALE CHAUVINIST, PIG that is a disgrace to the good women of America

"Chauvinist" means someone who assertively maintains that his or her kind -- usually people of the same sexx or nationality they think they are superior; "chauvinism" refers to an extreme and bigoted form of patriotism.

Come on everyone you know this is about the Clinton%u2019s Secret Female and White Supremacy Campaign. Get to the back off the bus boy and wait your turn. The key is that those of us who truly believe in race and gender equality should reject them like a bad virus that is infectious.
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by dschellb March 12, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
That is certainly once perception of reality, albeit and unrealistic one. I really doubt Mrs. Clinton would have won her democratic senate if it hadnt had been for the influence of her popular ex-president husband.

If she was so essential to Bill Clinton''s AR governorship race, why didnt she run for it instead? Texas elected Ann Richards why didnt Hillary choose to run for AR governor?
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by jsilver2th March 12, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
"Ferraro is currently a lobbyist in New York with Blank Rome Government Relations."

Oh I see she''s really a lobbyist for Republican now...

Here''s what Blank Rome''s own web site says about Gerry:

"On a slightly territorial note, however, the Washington Post.com reported, %u201CGeraldine Ferraro is heading back to D.C.%u2014or at least she%u2019ll be spending more time here . . . . The 1984 vice presidential candidate . . . adds a bit of Democratic flava to a firm known for its GOP ties; she also returns to town just in time for the latest round of %u201CIs the nation ready to elect a woman?%u201D interviews.%u201D "

So when she''s out there raising money for the Clintons and being disciminated against because she''s white- is she really on a feminist crusade or is she trying to buy favors for Blank Rome''s big bucks clients?

What a joke- Hillary''s superdelegate Mr. Spitzer isn''t the only NY politician that understands prostitution....
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by libra127 March 12, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
That is virtually indisputable Posted by dschellb at 01:24 PM : Mar 12, 2008

It is not indisputable, because I and many of her supporters dispute it. The fact that she did marry someone who eventually became famous does not mean she is famous only becuase of him. One could equally well say that Bill succeeded in winning the Governership of AR and thus starting his path to the Presidency in large part due to Hillary''s efforts on his behalf. (see Carl Bernstein''s "A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Clinton").
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by dschellb March 12, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
She can return all the funds that Ferrara raised and publicly repudiate her.
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by libra127 March 12, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
We can''t rely on Hillary Clinton to fire Ferraro

Posted by wshier1 at 01:18 PM : Mar 12, 2008

How can she fire her when she has never hired her ?


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by dschellb March 12, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
"Except that Ferrarro does NOT "occupy a high position in the Clinton campaign". She is simply someone who chose to support Hillary and chose to raise some funds for her."

If she is raising funds for Hillary Clinton she is obviously connected with their campaign. The fact that she is one of many surrogates that have engaged in race baiting makes one wonder whether this was a strategic decision at a higher lever, to drive a wedge in the Pa voter electorate.

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by libra127 March 12, 2008 4:30 PM EDT
Yes, xzonz, Hillary was on the Walmart board from 1986-1992, when it was a much smaller company than it is today. The following is a quote from an article by Beth Fouhy on commondreams.org:

"Bob Ortega, author of "In Sam We Trust," a history of Wal-Mart, said Clinton used her position to urge the company to improve its gender and racial diversity. Because of Clinton''s prodding, Walton agreed to hire an outside firm to track the company''s progress in hiring women and minorities, Ortega said.

"Clinton proved to be such a thorn in Walton''s side that at Wal-Mart''s annual meeting in 1987, when shareholders challenged Walton on the company''s lack of female managers, he assured them the record was improving "now that we have a strong-willed young lady on the board."

"Clinton was particularly vocal on environmental matters, pressing the company to boost its sale and use of recycled materials and other "green" products."

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by smashwl7 March 12, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
Hillary is only wining some states because she is a White Woman. She would not be even be in this race if she was a White Man. Geraldine Ferraro is A FEMALE CHAUVINIST, PIG that is a disgrace to the good women of America

"Chauvinist" means someone who assertively maintains that his or her kind -- usually people of the same sexx or nationality they think they are superior; "chauvinism" refers to an extreme and bigoted form of patriotism.

Come on everyone you know this is about the Clinton%u2019s Secret Female and White Supremacy Campaign. Get to the back off the bus boy and wait your turn. The key is that those of us who truly believe in race and gender equality should reject them like a bad virus that is infectious.
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by xzonz March 12, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
Geraldine is 100% correct. Barack Obama has no experience and has done very little in the way of anything meaningful. A couple of years ago, if you asked someone who Obama was, there response was "Obama, Who?".
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by jsilver2th March 12, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
I want to make it clear for the record I am not attacking Gerry Ferraro because she is white.

I am attacking her because she is a blonde bimbo.

Hillary looks more like Laureen Wallace everyday...
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by dschellb March 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
"A typical sexist male viewpoint, but it is not true."

She was by no means a national figure not withstanding the article. Truth be told she did acheive her national prominance due to her husband''s position. If she had not been married to Bill Clinton she would not be in the position today. That is virtually indisputable. An observation of reality does not make one a sexist.

There have been many notable women leaders on the world stage that have acheived their prominance through their merit not who they are married to. An excellent example would be Margaret Thatcher
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by libra127 March 12, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
We would not even know who Hillary is if not for her marriage to Slick Willie.

Posted by tibu987 at 12:39 PM : Mar 12, 2008

A typical sexist male viewpoint, but it is not true. Many people knew about Hillary in the late 60s, long before she met Bill. She was a leader in student government and spoke at the Wellesley College Commencement exercises. There was an article about her in Life magazine in 1969. She has always been an activist for the rights of women and children and has accomplished alot on their behalf.
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by xzonz March 12, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
We would not even know who Hillary is if not for her marriage to Slick Willie.

Posted by tibu987 at 12:39 PM : Mar 12, 2008

A typical sexist male viewpoint, but it is not true. Many people knew about Hillary in the late 60s, long before she met Bill. She was a leader in student government and spoke at the Wellesley College Commencement exercises. There was an article about her in Life magazine in 1969. She has always been an activist for the rights of women and children and has accomplished alot on their behalf.

Posted by libra127 at 12:48 PM : Mar 12, 2008
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WASNT SHE ON THE WALMART BOARD? PLEASE, GIVE US A BREAK!!!!
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