Comments on: Uproar Over Geraldine Ferraro's Remarks

Former VP Candidate Suggested Obama's Success Is Only Because He's Black

[dschellb]

I sympathize with you Mary

[socrates392]

Posted by irmarebecca at 02:34 PM : Mar 12, 2008

Okay, you convinced me. Her comments weren''t racist. I also want to add that Hillary Clinton is only where she is now because she''s Bill wife. Just a fact. No sexism insinuated. You comfortable with that Irma?

[xzonz]

If Billary is president will Chelsea be VP?

[dschellb]

I disagree completely. She said if her were white, he wouldnt be there. This is an argument againsts alot of African-American professionals, that they can''t occupy a position of importance because of their merit, only because of affirmative action. I really don''t see any other take on it than that.

That being said it will be effective in mid PA, where confederate license plates are considered a badge of honory

[marysexton1]

I am a Hillary supporter who believes that Ferraro''s comments are highly objectionable -- yes, racist -- and that Hillary must aggressively disassociate herself from them. Saying that she doesn''t agree with them is not enough. I feel so strongly about this that if the Clinton Campaign does not clearly separate itself from Ferraro''s remarks and Ferraro''s support, I will separate myself from the Clinton campaign. I tearfully say this because I believe that Hillary is more qualified to be president. But I will go with Obama if the Clinton campaign continues to parse its words when it should be clearly, vociferously honorable and straightforward.

[irmarebecca]

Obama''s skin color is part of the "symbol" his supporters dubbed him as. Ferraro''s comments were not racist. She is not a racist and I am not a racist, I am half black and completely know what she is talking about. Axlerod knows exactly what he is doing with pushing the race card everytime it comes up. As you notice sexist remarks are played over and over and a discussion is held about each one...I have been far more offended as a woman during this campaign by the Obama camp and media than as a black person by the Clintons. Even the "racial" comments from the people who made them were made more offensive from the way the media (CNN/MSNBC especially) showed edited versions, with anchor comments as part of the story along with racism attached. That''s how all of these remarks are fed to the public. We are being manipulated into racial tensions by the right wing media including ABC. ABC posted the story about Rush Limbaugh allowing a comment on Obama looking like Curious George, yeah offensive. What was more offensive was the fact that ABC freezed Obama''s picture with his mouth opened and lips puckered in the middle of a speech. I didn''t read one post of anyone complaining about it. Maybe if you are black you notice more, I have a feeling most people who post on news are white. Where is the outrage against the media fanning the flames of racism? They are deliberately using this to divide the Dems. Gee I wonder whose side they''re really on.

[xzonz]

libra127: you cannot convince me otherwise
clinton was and is surrounded bylobbysist that is why she could not pass the health care insurance(closed door deals)
once one takes lobbyists they will have their way

she is a say anything do anything divisive and polarising

[dschellb]

Being from Pa myself I can see the rationale of Clinton''s surrogate campaign. About 30 miles from Philly you will start seeing confederate flags on cars. This is her base who she appeals to. By constantly raising this issue indirectly she reenforces her support.

This tactic will probably win her PA, but at what cost? Do you really want to win an election like this? It is very nasty. Nothing good can come of it

[tonytx58]

Ferraro should resign and publicly apologize. If she does not then Hillary should fire her and reject her as the racist she is.

[dschellb]

This attitude, however, might help the Clinton campaign in PA, where many Clinton supporters do not want to see a black president at all. By not repudiating Fererra and accepting her remarks, she might be able to score points with those PA lunch box dems

[xzonz]

what about their businesses in are the most secretive Dubai and Kaghastan. are the most secretive people and have been involved in scandal after scandal

Clinton sat at the Walmart board which was getting stuff from china and saying they were from china.
what i cannot come in terms with is that Bil lied under oath, whether he is brilliant or whatever you call him.
I would rather vote for Obama than have the clintons back in the WH
Obama will have a very strong administration, there are many young Americans who can do excellent work
All it takes is honesty integrity and the will
OBAM 08!!!

[dschellb]

"You make my point...why is it an issue, Farahkhan can support Obama and according to Farahkhan he does -"

Actually not. As an individual Farahkhan can come out in support of Obama, that is his right. Obama has no control over that. If Farahkhan were to hold fund raisers for Obama, and Obama accepted money than that would be reprehensible because there would be linkage between the two.

In the case of Ferraro she is actively holding fund raisers for Clinton. There is a linkage albeit implicitly. The only decent thing to do would be to return the money. If she continues to accept the money she is condoning racism.

[sierra20071]

Suppose Farahkhan had been a fund raiser for Obama? Would that have been acceptable? Certainly not. If Hillary were really sincere about disavowing Ferraro she should return the funds she received from any fund raising activities

You make my point...why is it an issue, Farahkhan can support Obama and according to Farahkhan he does - So what. If he financially supports his campaign...again, so what. It should be up to the candidates to disavow anyone, it paints a truer picture of them. However, I do think it candidate support should be reported on and the American People can make their choice. I like Geraldine F. and I don''t think she should take her words back - I will continue to support Hillary even with this information. Now Barack supportors have to make their choice, Barack has unsavory supportors, and Barack say''s is not backing away from them...or if he does it is with a wink, wink - American People will decide.

[dschellb]

"Or maybe there were alot of people expressing their feeling that he had been persecuted and over-prosecuted for an offense that was not really relevant to his role as President."

That was my take on it. I loved Bill Clinton.

[dschellb]

"According to Bernstein, she considered it. But contrary to so many people''''s false conception that she is power-mad, she decided to teach law, be an activist for children''''s rights, work as a lawyer, and support Bill''''s career at that time."

That seems like placing a spin on her own limitations. At his peak Bill was a far more effective politician than Hillary is(not withstanding his current series of blunders)

As governor of AR she could have done much more for children''s rights. Bill was simply more electable. Further he was from AR, she is a yankee. Any dreams of becoming an AR governor were just that.

[libra127]

In spite of the scandal he had an approval level of 60% when he left office

Posted by dschellb at 02:04 PM : Mar 12, 2008

Peculiar isn''t it. I guess that says his approval rating if their hadn''t been a scandal/impeachment might have been much higher than 60%. Or maybe there were alot of people expressing their feeling that he had been persecuted and over-prosecuted for an offense that was not really relevant to his role as President.

[libra127]

He has definitely hurt her and probably cost her a significant percentage of the African-American vote. He is just not as skillfull as he used to be.

Posted by dschellb at 02:03 PM : Mar 12, 2008

I agree. It was painful to see.

[dschellb]

"Well, having recently been impeached and embroiled in a *** scandal, he wasn''''t really all that popular"

In spite of the scandal he had an approval level of 60% when he left office. One of the highest in recent times.

[dschellb]

"Perhaps. You could also say that Bill has mostly been a liability in her campaign for the Presidency. "

Most definitely. He has definitely hurt her and probably cost her a significant percentage of the African-American vote. He is just not as skillfull as he used to be. He definitely lost his edge. The Jesse Jackson gaffe was a real boner. Jackson won a caucus, Obama won the primary. Jackson was primarily a candidate who appealed to African-Americans("the black candidate"). Obama''s appeal is broadbased.

In spite of his blunders in this election, it is indisputable that his network and connections provided the initial impetus of the Clinton campaign back in 06

[libra127]

I really doubt Mrs. Clinton would have won her democratic senate if it hadnt had been for the influence of her popular ex-president husband.

Posted by dschellb at 01:45 PM : Mar 12, 2008

Well, having recently been impeached and embroiled in a *** scandal, he wasn''t really all that popular. She won in spite of him more that because of him.