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Foreign Policy Adviser Apologizes For Calling Clinton A "Monster" In Newspaper Interview
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- re: calling Obama a Muslim Do we really want to elect another president who uses inciting fear and racial hatred as a political strategy?
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- Vet, Clinton and her spouses income are released every year as part of her being a senator.
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- b-easy, please stop with the you-tube video. It takes answers she gave to entirely different questions and insinuates it was a flip-flop. Notice that you don''''t hear the questions, just the answers?
Posted by Stratmaster2 at 12:07 PM : Mar 08, 2008
sorry--wrong again. The answers are there as are her contradictions, but there is another version of the same actions by Hilary, in which the questions to Obama and his answers are made, then comes Hilary--then the former comments are pulled out. It is all there. Do you want me to post that link also? It is called Hillary Clinton exposed...episode 2--not as catchy but it will have all parts that were brought up--for those of you who can''t face what a liar you support. - Reply to this comment
- The Ken starr thing was a stupid coment, in more ways than one. But why isthe Obama camp talking about her tax returns (as if the Clinton''''s have not had their finances scrutinized more than any citizen in the history of the country) and white house schedule. she has given her examples of her experience. They either agree or disagree withthem and should say so. instead they ignore them and act like she has never responded.
Posted by Stratmaster2 at 12:01 PM : Mar 08, 2008
Because when dealing with an established, known liar--you NEVER EVER take what they say at face value--you get the proof to match their words--after all--she IS a known liar--so her "saying so" would be the worst reason in the world to trust her. - Reply to this comment
- Wow. you should be president! That was a really good answer to the torture question. Is that what Obama said the first time he was asked about it? Or any time he was asked about it?
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- The media (the mouth piece of the people) has asked for the tax returns. The latest was the last debate and she said she would get them to us soon - implying shortly after Texas. Her claim was she didn''t have time to put them together before Texas. Did you hear something different? She running for president. If this were just a seat in Congress fine, but the President''s power of influence is huge and we deserve to see what makes them millions of dollars to hold up to a campaign running out of money (early Feb).
I thought this you tube that b-easy63 was fantastic.
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- Realpatriot. That vote was based on Bush''''s assertion that he needed the authorization in order to coerce Iraq to ALLOW the inspections to be finished. Of course, at the time the Bush administration knew there were no WMD''''s, but that is not what they showed the world, is it? why are you hanging Bush''''s crime on Clinton? What about all the others who based their votes on the lies? Why does Bush get a pass? Lets not forget that Obama did not have to make that choice.
Posted by Stratmaster2 at 11:57 AM : Mar 08, 2008
Oh, Bush does not get a pass. He is leaving office--what we need to do--is make sure none of Bush''s enablers are left to pick up where he left off. That would off the top of our heads be people like Liebermann and Hillary Clinton. She can''t get a pass, because she wants to steer the country for the next 4 years--Bush already steered us into a ravine with Hilary cheering, now--at the edge of the Cliff--you and her supporters say: "Let the blind/myopic girl try again--it could''ve happened to anybody."
and yes--there is Hilary, still reading from the Bush map but thinking if she just reads it backwards or upside down, it will be for the left this time. - Reply to this comment
- b-easy, please stop with the you-tube video. It takes answers she gave to entirely different questions and insinuates it was a flip-flop. Notice that you don''t hear the questions, just the answers?
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- Hillary was answering a question about an extreme hypothetical "if millions of lives could be saved would you torture". How is she supposed to answer that other than the way she did? She has also said that she can not see a situation where that would be the case. after all, real world is not like the TV show "24"
Posted by Stratmaster2 at 11:49 AM : Mar 08, 2008
sorry wrong answer. I did not post Hilary in an interview, this was Hilary''s comments on her failure to endorse restricting torture at the time of her abstention vote. She should have answered with no she would not. Because it is highly unlikely any torture would produce credible information and if we had enough data to determine a person''s involvement--as is usually the case--we may or may not get enough to follow up. Because the simple fact is, military or paramilitary operations severely limit the amount any particular person knows--precisely because they could be tortured. Therefore, the chance of getting any viable information is practically nil--but the harm to the individual is guaranteed. We do not physically torture. There are other effective ways to obtain information. And you are implying that Hilary was just saying what was expected of her and not what she actually supports or believes--this underlines my point of why she is not fit. What EXCATLY are Hilary''s beliefs? Not just for today..what are her core, never changing, she would defend them on pain of death beliefs? Does she have ANY? - Reply to this comment
- The Ken starr thing was a stupid coment, in more ways than one. But why isthe Obama camp talking about her tax returns (as if the Clinton''s have not had their finances scrutinized more than any citizen in the history of the country) and white house schedule. she has given her examples of her experience. They either agree or disagree withthem and should say so. instead they ignore them and act like she has never responded.
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- Where is your proof that she has lied? Or is it just your opinion because you have bought into the Neocon hate of the Clintons?
HIllary Clinton has come out and defended her record and taken a clear stance on exactly what her vote meant! And when she voted she made a clear stance. And she has stood by every one of her stances in clear debates in front of this whole country.
Posted by RowdyTexan2 at 11:48 AM : Mar 08, 2008
Here you go....Hilary Clinton lying --no spin--just her and her words coming back to bite her. ENJOY
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- Realpatriot. That vote was based on Bush''s assertion that he needed the authorization in order to coerce Iraq to ALLOW the inspections to be finished. Of course, at the time the Bush administration knew there were no WMD''s, but that is not what they showed the world, is it? why are you hanging Bush''s crime on Clinton? What about all the others who based their votes on the lies? Why does Bush get a pass? Lets not forget that Obama did not have to make that choice.
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- You''re right Stratmaster2. But I know how difficult it was to get out there against the war. I remember these discussions in my unit then. Me and one ex-marine, Harry, agreed the war would be a disaster - just as H.W. Bush knew in 1991/1992. The Marines have a book you might know called Big War Small Wars that addresses all the problems we have gotten into: it is all about winning the insurgency in a small war; defeating armies in large wars. We fought a large war without an army to go up against.
I see your point on making Bush lame duck on the war although I don''t agree. If Bush was worried about that, then he didn''t need to ask Congress for an authorization. He had a plenty big stick to watch Iraq. %u2018Bob Graham: Iraq Report Prompted ''No'' Vote on War.%u2019 I just can%u2019t trust her
And her negative remarks towards Obama asking for evidence of her schedule in the Whitehouse as First Lady which she claims as experience? Calling him a Ken Star. That%u2019s rediculous Hillary. I believe she had very little experience making decisions in the Whitehouse after her debacle in 1993 on health care. In any regards, Obama%u2019s comment that Washington is the place where good ideas go to die is fully right. Don%u2019t let his spirit die by making him wait 8 years. Then he%u2019ll be just one of them %u2013 out of touch. - Reply to this comment
- "I am the candidate of change" "Change you can xerox"--yeah right--and in the same debate where she utters that, she then proceeds to use excerpts of former Edwards and Bill Clinton Speeches and never attributes it to them: "I have taken a lot of hits--but it is nothing compared to the hits the American people are taking right now" SAid by Bill Clinton.
She is so unaware of her duplicity, that she is craven and in our faces with it. Like the 3am commercial is a redo that is almost a total copy of the Mondale commercial in the 1970s. But it''s Hilary--so her xeroxing change is okay--right? - Reply to this comment
- While I certainly wish she had been more skeptical, she was in the same boat with many others. And lets remember, Obama never had to make the choice.
Posted by Stratmaster2 at 11:36 AM : Mar 08, 2008
123 people in Congress voted against the war--Hilary was just not one of them. What Obama did do--was (at risk to himself) at a time that the country was calling on spying on each other and beating the drums to war and detractors were labeled as traitors--He did stand on the Senate floor of the Illinois legislature at potential cost to his career and denounce the Iraq war.
In other words, he stood and was counted and THAT is documented. He took a stand even if it was not popular and he has stuck with that stance. I take little solace in Hilary being duped--I knew what authorization would mean, I knew and heard about curveball and yellowcake long before Bush made speeches, I knew about the Downing St memo and him looking for any excuse to start a war--and if I as a civvie could look at all of that and know the President was capable of great duplicity , subterfuge, lying, etc to start a war--I expect at least my next President to be that astute.
Obama stood up and was counted and spoke out in public against the war--and Hilary folded as she usually does to the popular polls of that day--just as she folds and makes promises now--to what she thinks is the popular movements of now. - Reply to this comment
- Wla-Mart?? Water-gate??? huh? As far as Clinton''s impeachment, that was the GOP sticking their nose into his *** life. I assume you would rather have illegal wiretapping, a criminal war, attorneys being fired for prosecuting GOP (or not prosecuting Dems). Funny, those and the other Bush crimes aren''t resulting in impeachment, but a BJ does.
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- Stramaster,
I made an assertion about what I strongly believe but I never said it was accepted fact. I was being hostile referring to your candidate but I think that was a justified response to your assetion that Obama supporters are worshippers as though that was an established fact.
Regarding her war vote, I humbly and meekly suggest to you that you may be missing the point.
She had a choice to grant the President authority in Iraq conditioned upon the completion of the IAEA inspections. She voted against that resolution hours before voting to give him authority to invade with no conditions.
I''ve yet to hear any Clinton supporter even attempt to justify that part of her vast experience, perhaps ypu could do so. - Reply to this comment
- Hillary was answering a question about an extreme hypothetical "if millions of lives could be saved would you torture". How is she supposed to answer that other than the way she did? She has also said that she can not see a situation where that would be the case. after all, real world is not like the TV show "24"
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- So words aside (because they all play games with them, including Obama), what is it that Hillary has DONE that causes you to dislike her so much?
Posted by Stratmaster2 at 11:21 AM : Mar 08, 2008
just to mention afew....
walmart-your tax dollars wisely spent
water gate- your tax dollars wisely spent
Bill clinton impeachement-your tax dollars wisely spent
Iraq war- your tax dollars wisely spent - Reply to this comment
- She has lied and changed positions. A lot.
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Posted by b-easy63 at 11:44 AM : Mar 08, 2008
Where is your proof that she has lied? Or is it just your opinion because you have bought into the Neocon hate of the Clintons?
HIllary Clinton has come out and defended her record and taken a clear stance on exactly what her vote meant! And when she voted she made a clear stance. And she has stood by every one of her stances in clear debates in front of this whole country. - Reply to this comment
