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CBSNews.com Reports: Clinton, Obama Push Different Visions For Party Leaders Who Could Decide Nomination

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by rowdytexan2 March 8, 2008 1:20 AM EST
At least half of the nation does not like Hillary, either because they are scared of her pocket calculator, or they fear her absolute insincerity. No way she can come close to McCain. Do the math. Hillary has said her "words are cheap" and that only a Hil-liar knows there are "false hopes". She has made it very clear that this sort of stupidity is destructive and shouldn%u2019t be trusted.


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Posted by user168 at 09:41 PM : Mar 07, 2008

I think you severely underestimate the will of the people against the Neocons.

And I think you severly underestimate Clinton supporters, as had the media...

The media has tried to sell Obama like Messiah, and people just aren''t buying it. At least mature people who know incompetence when they see it!

You''ve got to have more than great oratory and hip hop music to lead this country!
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by joandavis2 March 8, 2008 1:19 AM EST
Did you know Obama is black? His future white woman knows this when then run together!
Is it the white woman and her black obedient man?
Or is it
The black man with his white woman?
When they run together there will be no monica in the background!
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by fairandbal March 8, 2008 1:17 AM EST
Obama is trying to change the rules. He should have researched this issue before he got into the race. Now is not the time to change the concept. TOO LATE!!

Posted by Abnerm at 09:02 PM : Mar 07, 2008

I see the Clinton''s campaign staff is active on the CBS blog as well in the CBS newsroom. You people need to pay attention to what a real democracy is like.
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by fairandbal March 8, 2008 1:15 AM EST
I see the MSM is still trying to help Hillary get elected. There IS no choice here CBS. The only choice FOR the party AND for the nomination is for the superdelegates to echo the popular vote of their constituencies. Any other attempt by them to ''overrule'' the people is a blow to democracy and will destroy the party.

But CBS swallows the Clinton line and regurgitates as a fact.
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by johnsmithp March 8, 2008 1:08 AM EST
As president, Bill Clinton pardoned Viktor Bout''s partner Marc Rich before he left the office.

Will Hillary Clinton "reject" any pardon request for the merchant of death Viktor Bout if she becomes president?
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by clifden6 March 8, 2008 12:54 AM EST
This is very good news for the Republicans and John McCain, which I am sure will be very helpful for Pennsylvania after his inauguration in Jan 09.

The pendulum is swinging in Hillary''''s direction

Pennsylvania: Clinton 52% Obama 37%
Thursday, March 06, 2008

In Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton has opened a fifteen percentage point lead over Barack Obama. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows Clinton attracting 52% of the vote while Obama earns 37%.Posted by trapbreak

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by laregina March 8, 2008 12:53 AM EST
"If Obama had won in Texas and Ohio" ~ he did win in Texas ~ it''s just ''convenient'' for Clinton that the votes from the Caucus have not been tallied ~ and why is that one might have cause to wonder??? ''Curiouser and curiouser''!
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by sharncedar March 8, 2008 12:50 AM EST
But the day before the Ohio primary, a memo surfaced written by a senior Obama aide that advised the Canadians not to pay attention to what Obama was saying in public.

Posted by ramos937 at 07:09 PM : Mar 07, 2008

Which memo was later proved to be false - some are even saying it was a Clinton aide posing as am Obama aide. I''m sure "the day before the election" in Pennsylvania some such thing will be "revealed" as well. My guess would be something tying Obama to a Moslem terrorist group. Hope hillary''s not reading this blog, that idea is too good.
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by user168-2009 March 8, 2008 12:41 AM EST
At least half of the nation does not like Hillary, either because they are scared of her pocket calculator, or they fear her absolute insincerity. No way she can come close to McCain. Do the math. Hillary has said her "words are cheap" and that only a Hil-liar knows there are "false hopes". She has made it very clear that this sort of stupidity is destructive and shouldn%u2019t be trusted.
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by sueann702 March 8, 2008 12:06 AM EST
Pennsylvania: Clinton 52% Obama 37%

she did have a double digit lead in texas and obama nearly won the primary. he won the caucus in texas.
mississipi won''t vote for hillary because of the rude comments she made. Obama is favored in wyoming. This momentum will help him. people will get sick of hillary''s dirty tactics and side with obama.
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by abnerm-2009 March 8, 2008 12:02 AM EST
Look who is talking about changing the rules in the middle of the game; who else but Obama. The superdelegates were designed to do exactly that; overturn the will of the majority, if the party felt it was needed. If not, why would they need to exist? That is how it was designed to be. Those are the rules now and were in place before this all started. And, nobody had any problem with the superdelegate concept at the beginning. But now, so far into the race, Obama is trying to change the rules. He should have researched this issue before he got into the race. Now is not the time to change the concept. TOO LATE!!
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by rrcampbell11 March 7, 2008 11:57 PM EST
There needs to be more transparency about super-delegate selection. The Wikipedia, for example, and some other sites have good background, but more is needed, especially in a voter-friendly format.

Disclosure of the names of the super-delegates would also be fair, especially if there is a situation where a super-delegate may ignore the vote of her or his constituents. In that event, the constituents should have some sort of notice and due process.

Is the Democratic party going to be democratic, or what?
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by windblower March 7, 2008 10:39 PM EST
The Superdelegates need to stay at Bay. Alot of people have made great sacrifices to go to the polls and vote.Let this thing play out until June and don''t change the rules or do anything looking like it favors one of the candidates. We don''t want a Bush/Florida mess. I have to add here that it is arrogant for Clinton to put out that she should be on a ticket with herself as President.
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by ramos937 March 7, 2008 10:09 PM EST
Some facts. There are about 800 super delegates. Somewhere about 275 of them are Democratic Reps. most of who owe the Clintons who in late 2005 and in 2006 went to bat form them in appearances and fund raisers when they had to run. There are a number of Senators who are in the same pickle. These people owe the Clintons big time. So you can easily count 300 to 400 of these folks in the Clinton column. As to FL and MI - this will come down to a court fight. If the court rules that these delegates should be seated, that means about 375 more delegates for Hilliary. About PA - This state has been hit very hard by the loss of so many manufacturing and service jobs. The folks there blame NAFTA. Both Hilliary and Obama blame NAFTA. But the day before the Ohio primary, a memo surfaced written by a senior Obama aide that advised the Canadians not to pay attention to what Obama was saying in public. That in private Obama favored NAFTA. You know Hilliary is making hay with that gift rom the Obama camp.
Also, now we have the lady advisor that said about two days ago that Obama was not really planning to withdraw from Iraq. This is because she maintained Obama was going to rely on the advice of the Generals. If all of this is not enough to put Hilliary over the top, McCain is going to have a very easy victory.
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by three-o-six March 7, 2008 10:05 PM EST
This is the way it is done --

All you dems just keep fighting amongst youselves. It looks really good in front of all those independents you need to win.
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by mkbjon March 7, 2008 9:53 PM EST
Of course the people want an experienced candidate. We don''t want some inept, virgin politician fumbling about trying to screw the American people, we want someone who already knows how to do it and do it well!
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by alanrobisch March 7, 2008 9:52 PM EST
Better than her.



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Posted by CBS_Oliver at 06:45 PM : Mar 07, 2008
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I totally agree. My wife who is registered dem voted for obama to help prevent her nomination. My son did the same
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by cbs_oliver March 7, 2008 9:45 PM EST
Posted by IRLiberal at 06:08 PM : Mar 07, 2008

Most people who don''t want to see Hillary as president don''t hate her.

They dislike her policies or her methods or both.

That''s where I stand.

There are too many areas where her policies are quite similar to Bush''s policies - she seems to be an imperialist and an elitist and a liar.

We need better Democrats.

Better than her.
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by jed1234561 March 7, 2008 9:42 PM EST
Let%u2019s talk about Hillary Clinton%u2019s tactics over the past couple of weeks.

First of all, her main argument for why she is more qualified than Obama is that she has more experience than he does. I guess she believes that being married to a president makes you qualified to be one because she doesn%u2019t really have much experience in any position other than First Lady; if that makes you qualified to run the country than I guess her argument holds true.

Second, Hillary had slammed Obama for his supposed contact with Canada to reassure the Canadian Government that he did not really dislike NAFTA; he was just saying he did for political gain in the presidential race and he would then go back to supporting NAFTA after the election.
Then we come to find out it was ACTUALLY HILLARY CLINTON who had contacted the Canadian government to ensure them that she would not change the trade deals the US has with Canada but she needed to be critical of NAFTA for the short run because her opponent had been making headway by not supporting NAFTA in REAL POLICY.

Third, Clinton blasted Obama for his implied connection to Rezno, who has been investigated for fraud and Hillary has cried corruption and lamented about ethics.
HELLO%u2026DOES ANYONE REMEMBER A LITTLE THING CALLED WHITEWATER!!

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by valjean7 March 7, 2008 9:18 PM EST
The uncommitted delegates could represent all those who voted against Both Obama and Clinton. Their voices should count, too. They should consider others who could unite the party and win the general election, something both Obama and Clinton have worked hard to split. The Dem party winning the White House is the primary goal, far more than who the person is. Increasingly what I hear is something akin to "If so-and-so in the nominee I''ll vote for McCain...or not at all". Smart. Lose the war as well as the battle.
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