Comments on: Dean Outlines Options For Fla., Mich. Dems

But Former Party Head Says It's Doubtful Plan For Do-Over Primaries Would Be Approved

[jack99123]

Even now in Texas , Hillary won Texas in the Primary and Obama won in the Caucus part of the election. Nowhere else in the world , Caucuses are done to run any election . Caucuses can easily be manipulated by hiring a lot of volunteers for $100 to $1000 for one or two week period. These paid volunteers then bring all their friends to come to attend the Caucus and the candidate who spent the most money for hiring paid volunteers wins the Caucus. Since Obama raised more money , he spent more on hiring these paid volunteers mostly university students and unemployed workers and this is why he won all the caucus states. These are only games that Obama has been playing to win a large number of small caucus states and other states where he was able to outspend Hillary 4 to 1 .
The GAMES are now over.

[jack99123]

Hillary won all the big states except Illinois , which count towards victory in the general election. Getting delegates was just a game to get more people registered as democrats. That will be very useful in the general election .Obama won a whole bunch of small states and that also Caucus states. There are no Caucuses in the general election. The electoral vote method gives more advantage to the big states and that is the way the constitution was set up so that states with larger populations have more say in the selection of the next President.

[liberalvet]

jack99123....you last post is really reaching buddy. Have you not been paying attention NO DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IS WINNER TAKE ALL AND FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN DOES NOT COUNT. I know it is hard to see reason while being blinded by swiftboat propaganda like the Clinton Campaign has been spewing lately, but come on there has to be some point you stop and think for yourself....

[dchoggettes]

Jack99123,
You are a certified moron. You are another Clinton supporter trying to change the rules in order to make your canidate win. Iv''e got delegate scnarion for you. If you take number of delagates won, multiply them by the square root 2, divide it by the number of skittles in a bag, and multiply the average of pi 3.14, then subtract the degree of a equilateral triangle...then Obam wins 324,456,322,567,000 to 3. lol lol you are an idiot. The rules are the rules.

[liberalvet]

Macho male, Baroque or whatever his name is wanted to knock Hillary out, but found out the lady packed a mean punch! Bring out the pillows, MSNBC, ABC, etc. And more Kool-Aid, please, the people are beginning to lose their hangover!

Posted by phillysage at 02:22 PM : Mar 06, 2008

Once again you show your lack of rational thought. You will post venomous statement about Obama and in the same sentence complain Hillary is getting a bum rap from the press and all us Obama supporters. You my friend have taken the drinks from the Kool-Aid. A Kool-Aid that was created from a recipe written by KARL ROVE. You call for us to wake up from our stupor....when all the while you my friend are the one being blindly lead like a lemming.

I guareentee you will be spitting nails if Hillary wins this thing and the GOP starts its swiftboating of her. But it is ok for her to swiftboat Obama....

[jack99123]

Now that Hillary has won three primaries in a row, it''s time for Obama to do the classy thing and withdraw from the race.
Even now with winner take all Clinton will have 1721 pledged delegates including Florida & Michigan and Obama will have 1142. Obama would have been gone by now. Not only that if the electoral vote method is used, Hillary will have 263 votes and Obama 190. Only 270 votes are needed to win

Winner Take All

Clinton Obama
Alabama 52
Alaska* 13
Arizona 56
Arkansas 35
California 365
Colorado 46
Connecticut 48
Delaware 15
DC 14
Florida 210
Georgia 87
Hawaii* 20
Idaho* 18
ILL 153
Iowa* 31
Kansas* 32
Lousina 56
Maine* 24
Maryland 57
Mass 93
Michigan 156 0
Minn* 72
MO 72

Nebraska* 24
Nevada* 25
New Hampshire 18
NJ 107
NM 26
NY 232
ND 13
Ohio 130
OK 38
PA
RI 21
SC 37
Tn 68
TX 126
Utah 23
Vermont 15
VA 83
WA 78
WV
Wisconsin 74
Wyoming




1721 1142

[jersupporter]

''They have two options,'' Dean said on CBS News The Early Show. ''One: they can come before the DNC rules committee and submit a process that is complicated, bureaucratic and just plain ignorant, or they can simply just ignore everything and disenfranchise all those voters in Florida and Michigan. None of these choices are good choices, but heck, we are the Dummycratic Party.''
Continue that bickering on rules folks and just get use to hearing - THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES - JOHN MCCAIN. LOL

[ioweign]

I''''m sure the losers will find some way to conduct ANOTHER election at eh expense of the taxpayers of both states.

If they try it, I''''d sue to prevent it.

Posted by Infidel_US at 02:13 PM : Mar 06, 2008

Hey - the states brought this on themselves.

The governors - one D and one R - have painted themselves into a corner by creating their own rules. Gee this sounds familiar...

[phillysage]

There are only 2 sexes, men and women . . . Posted by dchoggettes

Gee, we would have never known! And when white men gave black men the right to vote after the Civil War, if you took History 101, you would have discovered that, women still had no right to vote among other rights. I am not a woman, by the way--do you have to be a woman to care about them? Macho male, Baroque or whatever his name is wanted to knock Hillary out, but found out the lady packed a mean punch! Bring out the pillows, MSNBC, ABC, etc. And more Kool-Aid, please, the people are beginning to lose their hangover!

[ioweign]

Get some facts. Florida has a constitutionally mandated balanced budget.

George W- It''''s expensive protecting your worthless a$$. You can credit $6 trillion to prior administrations.

How''''s that pesky primary thing coming along. Tough business disenfranchising milioons of voters huh? Democracy LIB style. LOL.


Posted by mbcsmith at 02:13 PM : Mar 06, 2008


Not in Iraq he is not - even Petraeus says that.

And it is $5 trillion - Bush has doubled the National Debt.

[mbcsmith]

Bush
Republica
n
Fiscal Irresponsible






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Posted by IOWEIGN at 02:08 PM : Mar 06, 2008


Get some facts. Florida has a constitutionally mandated balanced budget.

George W- It''s expensive protecting your worthless a$$. You can credit $6 trillion to prior administrations.

How''s that pesky primary thing coming along. Tough business disenfranchising milioons of voters huh? Democracy LIB style. LOL.

[infidel_us]

I''m sure the losers will find some way to conduct ANOTHER election at eh expense of the taxpayers of both states.

If they try it, I''d sue to prevent it.

[liberalvet]

phillysage

With both candidates given the same rules I see a tight and close race in both Michigan and Florida. Obama was not even on the ticket in Michigan and those Floridians that supported Obama did not even waste time to show up at the polls. Trust me we will if given the oppurtunity to have our vote count, and Obama has became very popular in Florida recently. Just like all other states Clinton can not expect to win, she must earn it from here on out. Hopefully all this will not destroy the Democrats changes of taking the White House.....

[ioweign]

Jeb left office with a 76% approval rating.

Posted by mbcsmith at 01:51 PM : Mar 06, 2008

Jeb Bush:
76 percent approval rating and 0 in the state treasury...

Shrub Bush:
76 disapproval rating and $10 trillion National Debt

Similiarities

Bush
Republican
Fiscal Irresponsible

[troytiedeman]

I live in Michigan and I believe that it''s all Michigans fault for the election. If they would have just stuck to the rules, instead of trying to be an important early state like Iowa and New Hampshire, then everything would be fine.

It is really too bad that we probably will not find out the democractic nominee until May.

[dchoggettes]

phillysage,
rules are a part of democracy! Duh. A true democracy is playing by the well established rules and standards in order to come together for a particular cause or purpose with which the majority agrees! If Obama was leading in Florida and Michigan, then I''d bet you would feel differently. And if you think sexism is worse than racism in this country, then you are probably a white middle-aged feminist who has a vendetta against men. There are only 2 sexes, men and women. Each group comprises about half of the world. There are dozens of races ie Black, Indian, white, Korean, Japanese...etc therefore, there are more differences and a greater opportunity for discrimination. I would suggest going to you local library and reading up on American history. White women were never hung for being white, but Blacks (men and women) were hung while white women watched.....and you think sexism ia a bigger problem. Not very intelligent.

[liberalvet]

phillysage

Your blind allegiance to Hillary is preventing you from thinking rationally. Both candidates are Democrats. Why are you attacking a fellow democrat so viciously? He has simply has more appeal to more democrats than Hillary has. I was supporting Hillary last year, simply because at the time I did not see any better candidate. It was not because I had any deep fondness for her or her political points. Once Obama emerged it gave me a choice, and one that I found more appealing than another Clinton. But I refuse to tear person down; if she wins the democratic ticket I will vote for her. But that does not mean I think she is better than Obama, it simply means we need a democrat in the White House.

[mbcsmith]

Maybe because Jebbie did nothing for Florida but sure did a lot for his brother!

Florida is well rid of ole Jebbie


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Posted by liberalme at 01:55 PM : Mar 06, 2008


Jeb left office with a 76% approval rating.

[nolalou]

phillysage just becuase Obama is asking that the rules should apply doesn''t make him a ''media controlled baby'', after all , it''s Hillary insisting Florida and Michigan votes should count, even though they broke party rules they had previously agreed to!

Sorry, phillysage , but all you''ve managed to prove is that your are a blithering IDIOT!

[nolalou]

"Taxpayers in both states ought to be assured that only party funds are spent on do-overs, because both of these states are experiencing budget crises." Posted by secundus2

I disagree, because it was the state legislature that set the date of the primaries! In Florida for example, the Republican controlled legislature decided to go against party rules and move up the date of the primary! It was not done by the party, so why should they have to pay for the do-over! Maybe the state legislatures will learn their lesson, or maybe next time they will be voted out of office for their stupidity and stubbornness!