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Increasing Calls For New Vote In States Disqualified By Democratic Party

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by ioweign March 6, 2008 3:45 PM EST
ioweign, You''''re just upset because you''''re from Iowa, It''''s ok, I understand.

Posted by truth-hurts at 12:41 PM : Mar 06, 2008


No - I don''t live in Iowa. I wish I did though...


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by donbl1 March 6, 2008 3:43 PM EST
Ioweign, actually, for the Republicans, only a few states are "winner take all" and most are apportioned as I remember.

The difference between the parties is mostly in the percentage of super delegates. The Democrats very high percentage of supers controls the selection process. So, "career politicians" are controlling the selection of the Democratic nominee.

BTW, winner take all approximates the national election decision on electoral college and seems to be a safer predictor of an eventual national winner which is what the primaries are for.
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by ioweign March 6, 2008 3:39 PM EST
Ioweign, I do not disagree with you. The Democrats have attracted the lower end of the economic ladder for a long time.

What bothers me is that "the common folk" do not get to select in the end because of the nearly 1/3 super delegates and the apportioned system of most of the states.

Just seems like a dichotomy for the party of the "common folk". Some day (say Obama is not nominated) the "common folk" may feel disenfranchised.

Posted by donbl1 at 12:34 PM : Mar 06, 2008


Hey - the Republicans have winner take all system - in a very close primary the "common folk" get screwed big time...it is not proportional at all. Plus the Republicans have Super delegates too.


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by donbl1 March 6, 2008 3:34 PM EST
Ioweign, I do not disagree with you. The Democrats have attracted the lower end of the economic ladder for a long time.

What bothers me is that "the common folk" do not get to select in the end because of the nearly 1/3 super delegates and the apportioned system of most of the states.

Just seems like a dichotomy for the party of the "common folk". Some day (say Obama is not nominated) the "common folk" may feel disenfranchised.
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by ioweign March 6, 2008 3:31 PM EST
The day Americans are punished by having their right to vote taken away is the day we may as well start calling ourselves Irag.

Posted by truth-hurts at 12:25 PM : Mar 06, 2008

This November you will get to vote and get to put purple ink on a finger or whatever...
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by ioweign March 6, 2008 3:26 PM EST
It seems like a dichotomy:

The everyday voters select the Republican Nominee.

The Elite of the party (super delegates) select the Democratic Nominee.

Don''t the Democrats trust the common folk?

Posted by donbl1 at 11:59 AM : Mar 06, 2008


Why are the "common folk" flocking to the Democratic Party and voting in record numbers ??

Candidate Pledged Super Total*
Obama 1360 207 1567
Clinton 1220 242 1462
Edwards 26 0 26
Uncommitt. 0 60 60
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by taddles-2009 March 6, 2008 3:24 PM EST
"Taddles, you need to look at the percentages of supers in the Republican party. It is soooooooo small that it does not impact the nomination selection.

The Democrats have nearly 1/3 of the votes being from Super Delegates.

Posted by donbl1 at 12:17 PM : Mar 06, 2008"

Wrong again. The Dems will have 794 Super delegates out of 4047 total delegates for a grand total of 19.6%. The Rep''s have 273 "unpledged" delegates out of 2380 for a grand total of 11.5%.

I know, mathin is hard.
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by donbl1 March 6, 2008 3:19 PM EST
Taddles, ALSO, in an apportioned system, the 1/3 super delegates then control the selection process. Simple math.
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by random_radar March 6, 2008 3:19 PM EST
Michigan and Florida moved their primaries up and got kicked out. What a laugh that they actually would have been important if they had just followed the rules!
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by donbl1 March 6, 2008 3:17 PM EST
Taddles, you need to look at the percentages of supers in the Republican party. It is soooooooo small that it does not impact the nomination selection.

The Democrats have nearly 1/3 of the votes being from Super Delegates.
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