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Washington Post: Even After Energizing Victories, She Still Lags Behind In Pledged Delegates

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by ipromise March 5, 2008 9:44 PM EST
I have noticed how Clinton never ever have any complaints about the election process when she has won, apparently it doesn''t take much. I did not vote for her nor will I ever vote for her. Her mud slinging and old-school politics are a turn off and it makes her look like a bitter old woman who is using the false sense of power of the White House as some form of compensation for her loss of self-esteem. I have no problem with any woman running as a Presidential Candidate, but this person has the morales of a snake and the smile of a goat. I have become addicted to the election coverage before and after primaries and I have come to my own conclusion that she is nothing more that the most selfish, insecure and back-stabbing individual I have ever seen in politics for as long as I can remember. I don''t think there is a male politician who is as ruteless and conniving as this person. I truly feel that no Head-of State of any foreign land will have any form of respect for her nor will she be able to get any cooperation from Democrats or Republicans if she (connives, lies and cheats) her way into the White House. Personally, I do feel that she probably could be up at 3am at the White House, because she''ll be up waiting for her husband to come home. (Just so that there are no misunderstandings,HRC, I am a WOMAN.)
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by libra127 March 5, 2008 9:03 PM EST
"While allies, they are minor players"
Posted by tibu987 at 05:22 PM : Mar 05, 2008

Where have you been living, Pluto ? The countries I listed are hardly "minor players". LOL

"What matters is what goes on in the backrooms of the world and where, women are not welcome.
This is called reality."
Posted by tibu987 at 05:22 PM : Mar 05, 2008

To the extent that that happens, it is called SEXISM. And it''s got to STOP.

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by tibu987 March 5, 2008 8:22 PM EST
libra127....
No, because those countries do not present the problems to the world that the U.S. does. While allies, they are minor players. Perfunctory ceremony is given to every head of state. What matters is what goes on in the backrooms of the world and where, women are not welcome.
This is called reality.
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by libra127 March 5, 2008 7:59 PM EST
"Vote for Hillary even though many foreign heads of state do not believe in negotiating with women."

Posted by tibu987 at 04:15 PM : Mar 05, 2008

Gee, I haven''t noticed this being a significant problem for Great Britain (Thatcher), Germany (Merkel), Pakistan (Bhutto), India (I. Gandhi), Israel (Meier), ...

But if a country does have a problem with it, it is way past time they learn that such sexism is unacceptable in the modern world. (You could stand to learn that too).
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by libra127 March 5, 2008 7:54 PM EST
Probably she won''t agree to a re-do in Michigan and Florida because she knows they won''t help her and she''s probably more interested in getting her $5mil back . . .

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 04:02 PM : Mar 05, 2008

A Florida and Michigan re-do certainly would help her, since she won those states handily and likely would again. Your second statement is not true either - I think she''s rather lose her $5M and win the election if that were the trade-off.

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by libra127 March 5, 2008 7:48 PM EST
"But she raised $35mil in February and only had $12.7mil of debt going into the month . . . if she only spent $4mil (?) on commercials, where''s all the $ going?"

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 04:02 PM : Mar 05, 2008

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the statement that she is "carrying millions of dollars of debt" isn''t true ? LOL




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by tibu987 March 5, 2008 7:15 PM EST
The women have spoken.
Vote for Hillary because she is a woman.
Vote for Hillary because we need a woman in the White house.
Vote for Hillary because she is the victim of an adulterous husband.
Vote for Hillary because her tears show that she is compassionate.
(Sorry, tears are not allowed in the Oval Room).
Vote for Hillary so people can see what a woman can do in the White House.
Vote for Hillary despite her being a scandal ridden sleazy lawyer from Arkansas, the second most backward State in the U.S.
Vote for Hillary although she represents exactly what is wrong in this country and in Washington.
(More of the same).
Vote for Hillary even though it will make the U.S. the laughing stock for the world.
Vote for Hillary even though many foreign heads of state do not believe in negotiating with women.
Let me see, there most be other reasons.
Jeeeez ladies, gimme a break.
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by samthetvcat March 5, 2008 7:02 PM EST
"the Clinton campaign is carrying millions of dollars in debt"

That was obvious when she started pointing out how she was only spending half of what Obama was spending on advertising. But she raised $35mil in February and only had $12.7mil of debt going into the month . . . if she only spent $4mil (?) on commercials, where''s all the $ going?

I figured for sure she''d stay in until Pennsylvania even if she doesn''t go all out to win because she needs an excuse to bring in the money to pay off her debts.

Probably she won''t agree to a re-do in Michigan and Florida because she knows they won''t help her and she''s probably more interested in getting her $5mil back . . .

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by samthetvcat March 5, 2008 6:56 PM EST
"No person has ever won the White House without winning the Ohio primary in either party, so I think Ohio is pretty important," Clinton said in an interview with the NBC affiliate in Columbus."

ha ha, she changed it - what an arrogant buffoon she is. Yesterday she was saying as Ohio goes so goes the nation, but polls show Ohio going to McCain.

It''s too late though, she already said it like 12 times. The GOP are probably going to use her clips with poll numbers superimposed showing Ohio ''going'' with McCain to make her look like she''s out of it . . .
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by l00ker March 5, 2008 6:42 PM EST
She didn''''t win by landslide numbers, and picked up only a couple of delegates. She may claim that she won big states, but those were Dem hack states, and heavily hispanic, while he won all across the country. She''''s outta here.

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Posted by l00ker at 03:41 PM : Mar 05, 2008


Correction: Clinton hack states.
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by l00ker March 5, 2008 6:41 PM EST
She didn''t win by landslide numbers, and picked up only a couple of delegates. She may claim that she won big states, but those were Dem hack states, and heavily hispanic, while he won all across the country. She''s outta here.
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by March 5, 2008 6:22 PM EST
Posted by suzy111 at 12:35 PM

I''m with you!!
Quickest way in the world to lose my vote is to try and scare me into voting for you.
Another quick way is to crawl into the gutter and expect me to follow. Ain''t gonna happen.
I would love to see CBS initiate a whole new segment and call it "Dirtbag Politics".
The problem is that both of these tactics have been shown in the past to work! And work pretty good. That''s why we consistently get the government we deserve.
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by libra127 March 5, 2008 6:22 PM EST
I am incredulous.
I have read in the newspapers and online comments by many women who said they would vote for Clinton "because the U.S. needs a woman to head this country",...

Posted by tibu987 at 02:34 PM : Mar 05, 2008

Yeah, I am incredulous - but of your comment. I''ve been reading newspapers and these boards the whole primary season and I have seen VERY FEW posts which say we should vote for Hillary "because she is a woman". Oh, there have been a handful, but mainly from one or two posters repeating themselves. The overwhelming majority of women who support Hillary for President do so because they feel she is the best available candidate.
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by vastr-wcon March 5, 2008 6:17 PM EST

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The voters have spoken and it is now time for Hussein to to withdrawal. It has been fun watching the antics of his frat-boy and girls-gone-wild supporters, but it is now time to take the presidential contest seriously.

That means to focus on the fact that Tony''s Rezko''s partner-in-crime cannot win the presidency by winning in states like Vermont, Iowa, and North Dakota. To win the presidency, it will take winning the Hillary states of California, Ohio, New York, Texas and Florida.

The Hope-Change, Change-Hope, Hope-able Change and Changeable-Hope BS and assorted plagiarisms of Hussein (along with his theft of most of John Edwards ideas) has been a delightful distraction from reality. Now the responsible and mature Democrats must get serious and work to elect a capable president.

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by madashell4lo March 5, 2008 5:48 PM EST
If the actual, one person, one vote were the only factor in this election, and the primary totals as of now were counted, the republicans would have already lost the presidential spot to the Democrats. Lets make it even simpler, Give all of the republican votes to John and give the democratic runners only the votes that each has earned, The low man on the Democratic totem pole would still beat John by a wide margin. Hillary''s wins are wins but not WINS. The wins are shallow. Not what you would expect from one who expects to win. We the voters can only groan when we hear the words superdelegates. Now that we know how deals come together in D.C. who knows what deal in the past or the future has put what Super Del. in bed with whom. It would be nice if these our elected officials would come forth and state how they are going to vote, isn''t this part of what we pay them for. Or does the amounts that political persons get from doing the bidding of the Bilderberg Group count more. Look that up on BBC check out there answer.
Himself.......
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by suzy111 March 5, 2008 5:35 PM EST
this is for DonaldDuck75. Wow that''s real smart, can''t have your way, so vote for the oppostit side. I suppost you don''t have any military children, when you talk about your family. If you do, I would hate to see the draft restarted and your children go. You should read more facts about both candidates history and experence before blowing off. Hilary''s experence should not include following her husband around. That would be like me saying it can drive a log truck because I work for a log truck company. This is not a Billary campaign. She is having trouble with running her money, I am not real sure I want her running what little I have. Please everyone stop and think, this is for all of us, not just you.
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by tibu987 March 5, 2008 5:34 PM EST
I am incredulous.
I have read in the newspapers and online comments by many women who said they would vote for Clinton "because the U.S. needs a woman to head this country", "that it was time for a woman to be president", and many other such ridiculous comments. In other words, these women voted for Hillary simply because she is a woman. This is very scary.
I am also incredulous that these two, the Clinton twins, sleazy lawyers from Arkansas, from the second most backward state in the U.S., both beset with scandal, could become the two most powerful people in the world.
I once read that the American electorate is comprised of only 3% of intelligent, well read, voters. The other 97% comprised couch potatoes, TV watchers, non-readers, video game players, in other words, people who not know anything of the candidates, the issues, the problems, facing this country and the world.
But, as patriotic Americans, they will exercise their right to vote.
Too bad. Too scary.
We have a chance to change the direction of this country with Obama. If Obama should not win, it will just be more of the same with the Clinton twins, with the rest of the world laughing at us and, we again lose credibility internationally.
Too bad. Too scary.

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by tibu987 March 5, 2008 5:32 PM EST
Vote against politics as usual, i.e., the Clinton twins and McCain.
Vote against the status quo, i.e., the Clinton twins and McCain.
Vote against divisive partisan politics, i.e., the Clinton twins and McCain.
Vote against arrogance, ineptness, i.e., and corruption, the Clinton twins and McCain..
Vote against members of Washington''s "good ole boys", i.e., the Clinton twins and McCain.
club.

Vote for change.
Vote for Obama.

72 year old white male, veteran, who has seen it all.

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by PulSamsara March 5, 2008 4:56 PM EST
The only way for Hillary to get the nomination now is to steal it. If she does that she will absolutely destroy the party. - If Clinton steals the nomination she will receive less than 40% of the popular vote in the general. She''s turned off a lot of people - for good !

-former (3 time) Clinton''s voter.
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by vet_sk March 5, 2008 4:44 PM EST
Hillary: You needed knock out blows of 15% in both Ohio and Texas - that is what everyone was saying before yesterday. You underperformed: You got 3% in Tx and 10% in Ohio. You would need almost 70% of the vote in the rest of the states to overcome Obama''s delegate count.
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