Comments on: Analysis: Buyer's Hesitation For Dems?

CBSNews.com's Vaughn Ververs Says Clinton Has At Least Blunted Obama's Momentum

[ademeyer]

If Clinton is the Democratic nominee, the Democratic Party will split, with young people, progressives and the college educated moving to the Greens. The Green Party is already growing where I live. If Hillary had the foresight to see this happening, she would secure her place in history by playing kingmaker, and handing the nomination to Obama. That would be a powerful moment, but I doubt she has the good judgment to make it happen.

[bombadil4]

It''s great that Obama has kindled interest among groups that normally don''t vote or pay much attention to politics. For those of you on this list who are new-comers here are some realities:
1. Politics is a dirty game. Always has been always will be. Obama (From Chicago no less) knows that and is a full participant playing to win. So is Hillary.
2. Both candidates made the mistake of coasting--Hillary early because she looked like such a sure thing--Obama during the last week because he thought he could back in.
3. It''s a contest and no one has won yet. If you want Hillary out, win the contest. Or--dare I say it--encourage Obama to drop out.
4. There are no rules. Howard Dean can make them if he wants, but they will be broken. Hillary will imply Florida and Michigan should count despite the "rules." Obama will imply that the super delegates are supposed to vote for whoever is ahead at the convention. Nope...no such rule. Sorry that it''s all such a mess, but see reality #1 above.
4. McCain is about as exciting as warm spit. Who cares what he''s up to during the next month? If a country that''s 70% perecent against the war and experiencing hard economic times votes for a war mongerer who frankly admits he knows little about that dang-blasted economy---well then it''s just another example of the old truth---People generally get the government they deserve.

[jack3213]

1)The economy is in a slowdown%u2026 you want change? Quit being greedy, save more than you spend, work hard and quit whining. Live within your means.
2) Iraq is difficult, painful and not going away any time soon%u2026 you want change? Fine, we%u2019ll pull the troops out now because it%u2019ll garner votes, then we can spend twice the coin and put even more lives at risk when the place falls further into hell and we need to go back. Quit moaning about the intelligence failures and poor planning that led us into the current situation. It is what it is and we better deal with it properly.
3)Washington is broken%u2026 you want change? Give me a break. Quit with the crying over partisan politics unless you got a plan for revamping the two-party system. Candidates have been winging that old chestnut around since George Washington%u2019s days. There%u2019s nothing broke about Washington, D.C., that can%u2019t be solved by politicians simply doing what they%u2019re supposed to do%u2026 representing their constituents, working hard and being honest.
4) Immigration%u2026 you want change? OK, everybody except Native American Indians shut up and figure out how to compromise between secure borders and a nation that continues to offer hope and inclusion to people from other countries.
5) Universal health care%u2026 you want change? Great idea, come up with a plan that can be clearly explained to someone with a high school education.

[jegibbons]

Buckle up! Watching this Democratic debacle unravel is positive PROOF of the schizophrenic lunacy that is collateral with electing either of these Democrats to the presidency.
This should be a truly SCARY proposition for anyone with a lick of common sense.

Historically, that stalwart commentator of wit nailed it when he once observed.

Will Rogers: "I don''t belong to any organized political party, I''m a Democrat!"

[l00ker]

She finally won a state or two that she was supposed to, but not with enough numbers to change the math. Ohio to Clintons is OhackO, and she skated defeat by the edge of her jalapeno in Texas, so her camp will do as usual, and make a mountain out of a mole hill. Her fear mongering and pissing about media bias, lying about NAFTA, was enough for OhackO, and Rhode Island is Israeli country, so that was a slam dunk. Her slinging manure seems to have been eaten up by the Ohackans, and those in Israeli country will side with anyone against those who won''t entertain their paranoia, kiss their jack boots, and pat them on their bucket helmets. However, the score board is still reading deficit, as of a second or two ago.

[l8c6]

Those people who say if Hillary wins they will vote for McCain but if Obama wins they will vote for Obama are right wing republicans playing a game of strategy. If the illogic of such assertions don''t send red flags up for the people truly concerned that change take place, then it''s a troubling thought such folks may be driving the freeways in close proximity.

[l8c6]

There is an old saying that''s probably in Texas. It can be heard in other places. "Don''t throw the baby out with the bath water". If Hillary were to become president it, won''t hurt Obama''s future as a strong leader and president but Obama could hurt the steps necessary to begin change. Experience does matter and Obama has not been in Washington to learn what he really faces. His "advisors" will lead as Darth Vader has led the current Mascot.

Force the craft into an abrupt maneuver and the wings may separate. Turn the craft with careful skill and a new course will be set.

[liberalvet]

Obama would not have been such a shining star if Clinton had been given the delegates for Florida and Michigan which she deserves. She just did not win against Obama last night, she won against Media bias, Oprah, and reverse discrimination.

Posted by paris1969 at 08:44 AM : Mar 05, 2008

Obviously you are amoung the lower educated populace that is the target market for the Hillary machine. Florida and Michigan did not abide by the established rules, which made thier delegates not count. The candidates agreed and signed a contract not to campaign in those states, but Hillary violated that. She was the only candidate on the Democratic ballot in Michigan. In Florida her campaign was in high gear, I know for I live there. Since our delegates were deemed to not count many Democrats, me included did not waste our time to go to the polls. If our vote had counted we would have turned out in the same large numbers as in all other states. Had Michigan and Florida not moved up thier primaries, I strongly feel Hillary would have lost them to Obama.

[l8c6]

Obama''s campaign argues that this is less a race about winning states and more about winning delegates. But winning pledged delegates alone probably won''t get him the nomination, as long as Clinton remains in the race, splitting the haul to the end.

Uh yeah, and what is it from Obama supporters?, their detest of super delegates and demanding they go in favor of the popular vote. It''s not about winning states at least for now. Same old of any politician, something is right when it works in favor of them.

[vet_sk]

Analysis: Buyer''s Hesitation For Dems? What a rediculous headline. Are people voting more than once in this primary?

CBS is just exagerating this whole thing. Likely just to keep it going and making the news media ritcher has huge amounts of campaign money are being funneled in.

If they try to move this election in a direction other then where the delegates are headed, the Dems will lose for sure in Novemeber. The Obama supporters will certainly not vote for a candidate who steals the primary.