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[bill1fj]

Why would anyone vote for hilary and obama?
Neither one has done anything while in congress, except talk.
They both want to give amnesty to the over 20 million ILLEGAL aliens stealing jobs from LEGAL residents.
Why would anyone vote for hilary and obama?

[candide777]

Feminists trivialized rape, not I.

When "I said no" became rape, that trivialized rape to the same level as a kick in the balls.

Violent rape by a hostile aggressor is far from trivial. But, "I changed my mind" is not the same thing.

Once again, feminists trivialized rape with their insistence that rape amounted to a disagreement over when to stop.

Which has become law in most, if not all, states. And, that is a very trivial offense, if it could even rightfully be called an offense.

Posted by tuckerndfw at 05:50 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Well, wait a minute. If a woman says "no" before it''s in, then to keep going is rape, plain and simple. Just because you get down and dirty, doesn''t mean you''ve consented to anything and everything.

On the other hand, I remember when girls at my college first learned how sexist our society was. The reaction, fueled by both their male and female professors was to go to the other irrational extreme. It was quite something to witness. I sided with the feminists only because I prefer to take the under dog as between two ridiculously unfair sides.

Now, in the middle of the act, "I changed my mind" well, that is just not cool, and whatever happens after that may not be cool either, but it ain''t rape.

[njss1833]

Twenty-four years of Bush/Clinton domination of our political system. I believe the majority of Americans are sick and tired of Special Interest and Middle Eastern Lobby groups controlling our government and nation. We give billions of our tax dollars to Middle Eastern states instead of putting those billions into our educational system.
Bush/Clinton domination of our political structure has sold our country to the highest bid.
Israeli Lobby groups in Washington DC has controlled Bush/Clinton adminstrations for 24 years. If the American elective have not figured that out then it''s no wonder we are less educated compared to citizens in other industrialized nations

[candide777]

does not equate with the idea that rape is a "trivial offense" as tucker maintains.
Posted by libra127 at 05:34 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Well, I agree with you there, rape is not at all a trivial offense and I doubt tucker really believes that it is. He just needs to think it through some more.

[nottellin1]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 05:16 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Hey tuck, You may have missed my question the other day,. maybe see it now. Question was: what is RP''s stance on illegal immigration? I heard about an ad of his stating that when he was a doctor in the emergency room he''d treat anyone, no matter who they were. This seems pretty soft to me if he is referring to illegals but I didn;t see the ad, he may have been referring to poor Americans. Do you know?

[libra127]

Candide - I see no similarity at all between tucker''s ideas on sex_ and what''s wrong with America vis-a-vis sex_. The fact Europenas have a healthier attitude in general toward sex_ does not equate with the idea that rape is a "trivial offense" as tucker maintains. In any case, I find this discussion - due to tucker''s moronic and offensive postings - to be a complete waste of time. Bye-bye.

[candide777]

I doubt very seriously that anyone else agrees with your perception of the "facts" except maybe rapists and pedophiles. My "emotional" response as you put it has nothing to do with the fact that you, sir, are a freak and are unlikely to get support from anyone on these beliefs. Maybe some sort of bizarre support from leafsntrees at best.
Posted by deemsnyd at 05:14 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Actually, while I don''t agree with tuckerndfw on everything he says, he really does have a better grasp on reality than this country does when it comes to ***, and he''s dead on when he says that this is nation of deviants who either worship or fear genitals. America is the laughing stock of Europe when it comes to ***. Europe is much further evolved on the subject. I''m not sure why, but I suspect it has something to do with our unhealthy puritanical history.

[deemsnyd]

tucker,
You might as well get used to being ostrasized in regard to this topic as much as singinrick is on other topics. And I doubt libra127 expected you to CARE about what she thinks any more than I do.

[deemsnyd]

I am not referring to anything other than the simple act of placing one millimeter of a penis_ into a vagina_. Anything else that occurs is irrelevant to the point I''''m making. It is a separate offense.

Placing one millimeter of a penis_ into a vagina_ will not generally cause trauma or injury to anyone, irrespective of age.

Your wild hysteria about guys who torture their victims is totally unrelated to subject at hand.

You seem to think assault is not a crime. . . .

Posted by tuckerndfw at 05:13 PM : Jan 09, 2008


Altering your past statements with this post,huh?
Some of your past postings on this subject have not eluded to this watered-down albeit still stupid version at all. "wild hysteria" that''s funny.

[libra127]

"My lunatic ex-wife is a Libra (Oct 15). Which explains why you take it personally when I refer to crazy women. . ."

I don''t take anything you say personally, tucker. I just find your expressed opinions and manner repulsive. And you''re jumpin'' to conclusions again. I''m not a "libra" just cuz my username is libra. So you can wipe that scary image of your ex-wife (lucky woman) out of your mind.

[libra127]

"Demanding a person excited by passion to suddenly just stop when you say no demonstrates a high degree of ignorance and/or naivety about human nature, particularly passion"

Ignorance and naivety are not crimes, nor should they be. But the guy MUST STOP if the woman says NO. Don''t care if it''s hard for him. Perhaps an even higher penalty is needed to deter men such as yourself who do not want to stop.

[deemsnyd]

Trauma on children is inflicted by society, it is not inflicted by touching their genitals. Children generally have no reference point from which they can be traumatized by having their genitals touched, irrespective of what is used to touch them.

Americans refuse to see the truth in that statement because we are a nation of sexual deviants who either fear or worship genitals.

And, that is why we have all these stupid laws related to sex_ (can''''t even post the word, demonstrating our national insanity).

Genitals are not unique. They are no different than any other part of the body other than location, shape and purpose.

Assaulting them is no different than assaulting any other part of the body. The emotional reaction depends entirely on the person, same as with all other assaults.

Your emotional response does not alter the facts. Nor does anyone else''''s. Rape is an assault on genitals, same as any other assault.

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:57 PM : Jan 09, 2008


I doubt very seriously that anyone else agrees with your perception of the "facts" except maybe rapists and pedophiles. My "emotional" response as you put it has nothing to do with the fact that you, sir, are a freak and are unlikely to get support from anyone on these beliefs. Maybe some sort of bizarre support from leafsntrees at best.

[libra127]

" I hate CRAZY women.
It is not my fault that 99% of women are CRAZY."
Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:13 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Well, LOL, tucker. That statement pretty much satifies MY requirements for being known as a woman-hater. Nothing else need be said. You''ve proven the point all by yourself. (Many times over, actually).

[deemsnyd]

I am saying that the woman who reported this "rape" to me should not be considered a victim and the "rape" committed against her should be classified a misdemeanor.

Her story:

"I got drunk, picked up a guy in a bar, went with him in his car to a warehouse district, willingly engaged in sexual relations with him, and once we got started, I changed my mind. He wouldn''''t stop when I told him to.

He raped me."

That is a summary of a claim that was reported to me.

That is not rape.

But, according to feminists, including HRC, and the law in most states, it is.

Since rape has been so trivialized, it should be a misdemeanor.

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:44 PM : Jan 09, 2008


Assuming you are right, which I don''t, what about the women who are really raped and didn''t lead anyone on? What about a child??? You specifically stated in the past that the age of the victim doesn''t matter. How are cases like this the same as what you described above? Read the other story on CBSNews right now about the guy that raped the little girl and it was found on video tape? Are you saying he should get 30 days in jail and a fine "at most"?

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:44 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Tucker, the point is, why didn''t he stop when she said no? No means no. Is that so hard to understand?

[deemsnyd]

For those of you who can''t believe how far off topic this is, you''ll have to read through the posts to figure it out...hint,hint nutsie11

[rowdytexan2]

Posted by ScarletPhD at 03:37 PM : Jan 09, 2008

A little levity, Scarlet. Go research it, and write a paper on it.

[deemsnyd]

"Equal rights" demands that assaults on genitals all carry the same punishment. Until kicking guys balls results in life sentences, then imposing any such sentence for assaulting a woman''''s genitals is unconstitutional and unjust.

Rape is an assault on the genitals and absent injury, is simple assault, a misdemeanor offense.

Posted by tuckerndfw at 04:29 PM : Jan 09, 2008

Why do you not consider the emotional trauma?
Why do you not consider the age?
Why do you think that anyone would consider your opinions seriously on anything after knowing your views on this?
Why do you think that kicking a man in the crotch is on the same level as raping a child? If a man raped your wife and she kicked him in the crotch, should they have side by side jail cells? I guess you would think if she kicked him first, they should.

[deemsnyd]

tuckerndfw,

So, are you saying that the laws should be changed so kicking a man in the "balls", as you put it, would result in the same harsh punishment as rape should result in? Or are you saying that both should be considered minor?

[samthetvcat]

"Sooner we get the word out, the sooner we can get our idiotic "sex_ crimes" laws repealed.

Rape, absent injuries, is simple assault and equivalent to a guy being kicked in the balls. It is an assault on the genitals and should be classified as a misdemeanor.

Thanks for the help."
Posted by tuckerndfw

Oh wow, that''s really off - sorry, but rape is about power and helplessness, and men have stronger physicality. If you get kicked in the balls, then you have the power to beat the *** out of the other guy or render the woman powerless. That''s the difference. Anybody who would commit a *** crime has a fundamental disrespect for the sanctity of human life imo. And I think the vast majority of ppl would agree with that.