Comments on: Analysis: Obama Ahead; GOP A Headache

Obama Attains Front-Runner Status; Huckabee Win Roils GOP Race

[clestes-2009]

After months and months of speculation, it is very satisfying for me to see what I expected to happen, happening.

I have felt for the last year that America was and is very concerned about the future. The consistant result of 70% plus saying we are on the wrong road. 65% to 75% think the war was wrong and want the troops to come home. The disillusionment with washington and the rep party. Nov 2006 was a just a preview of what is going to happen in Nov 2008.

I kept waiting to see if any of the rep candidates would wake up and retool their message to try and recapture the rep voters. The average rep voter was dissatified, they felt alienated. The shrub WH had taken them on a ride that they did not like. They are dispirited and have no enthusiasm for any candidate. Each one has captured a certain segment of the rep voter, but no one has captured them all or even most of them. Ron Paul was the only candidate to realize this and he was sneered at.

Now the election is still months away and anything can happen, but I don''t think it anything will change. The WH has dug a deep hole and it is dragging the rep candidates down with it.

It is far too late for the message of small govn, low taxes, low expenses to resonate. It is nothing more than embarressing to see shrub vetoing a bill for children''s healthcare for 23 billion claiming it is too much and then demand another 150 billion for a war that 70% of America thinks is a mistake!

[Razzl]

I think you''ve summarized Romney''s problem pretty well--he made himself into a phony and Republican voters saw through it. I would have wondered at the sanity of anyone who believes what Romney has to say any more; presumably his remaining supporters are the people who aren''t listening or are fixated on the popularity/winnability issue...

[richvart]

speakinup

I hear what you are saying. I did not intend to imply that 24%ers were crazy, but when someone says that George Soros is all democrats master then admits that Soros thinking only accounts for 1% of democrats it is really hard to take that person seriously.

The fact is that FoxNews, Rush, etc, all promote this same nonsense that Soros & moveon control the Democratic party. It''s so clearly not true, yet these men are extremely popular with Republicans.

It does not speak well for Republicans.

[pakaal]

"Clinton''s third-place showing effectively shatters any lingering perceptions of her inevitable march to the nomination."

"Shatters"?! She was neck-and-neck for second place! Hate to use pat phrases, but it''s the pundits who thought Clinton''s nomination was "inevitable", not us folks who actually follow politics. She''s "establishment" and that has clout, but that''s waning, as we saw last night with a tremendous youth vote turnout for Obama, fueled by new media and netroots efforts.

[marcodele]

Bush, Clinton, Bush did not win Iowa.

[logicanada]

quetzal666...Iowa is and has been the medium marker for most presidential nominees.
It is geographically located in the central US and it isn''t known for potatoes. That would be Idaho.
If you are to comment on your own country''s politics, you might want to know more about it than a foreigner.

[logicanada]

Obama was the only candidate who sounded presidential in his closing speech.
Very impressive!

[speakinup]

bobnjersey - If you were to say something that could be construde as rascist infront of a crowd that COULD interpret it that way, and you''ll understand what I mean. Unfortunately (and I do mean unfortunately), it is also the test the courts use.

Al Sharpton IS a rascist - there is no doubt about that - all he has to do is open his mouth and he proves time and again he hates the whites.

"your constitution criteria may not be what everyone else is using to denote what is perceived as his political naivete."

True, but I was commenting on age: 35 is the age needed, Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.
Here''s a link:

http://www.usconstitution.net/constquick.html

[bobnjersey]

[If he had said "young" or "inexperienced" I would have no beef, but that''''s not what he said ... Go out on street and call a black man "boy"and see what happens.]
[Posted by richvart at 02:28 PM : Jan 04, 2008]

language and the subtlties in linguistics is just a bit more complex than capitalization of letters. If he had shown all his emphasis on the word BOY then maybe ... just maybe ... his intent was racist. from what he typed though ... it''s clearly referring to age and experience ... which has been a common reference to obama since he indicated his interests in running.

[I grew up in the South, I''''ve seen the "boy" reference first hand. The all caps "A BOY" is clearly derogatory and racists.]

the all caps typing is indicative of those on online message boards that either need some help ... or they''re trying to apply emphasis (as in speaking loudly). plus the whole sentence is capitalized ... not just the words ''A BOY''.

in fact, the use of ambiguous language is a very effective technique in many disciplines ... from politics ... to psychotherapy ... to lighting the fire of those on online message boards.

[speakinup]

"Since Kucinich is out, there goes any chance of having a beautiful woman(his wife) in the white house. Posted by gunownerdan

Well, it is remote - but Fred Thompson''s wife at TOO shabby.

[speakinup]

richvart - allow me to put it into terms that''ll Make sense.


50% of the US says they won''t vote for hillary as president, yet a LARGE number of democrats are willing to vote for her. Does that mean they are crazy ? No.

I don''t know the exact stats, but I still willing to bet Congress still has a lower rating than President Bush. Yet yo think folks that follow Bush''s logic are in the minority ? Yeah, statistically.

At this particular time, I think yo''d be hard pressed to find ANYONE that has high approval rating.

[bobnjersey]

[The intent doesn''''t have to be there for something to be racist, is just needs to be interpretable that way.]
[Posted by speakinup at 02:33 PM : Jan 04, 2008]

what are you talking about? if a (racist) intent was not there and someone (like al sharpton) makes it into a racist intent ... that''s al sharpton''s problem ... and not that of the one who stated it.

[If the intent was that he''''s not old enough, check the consitiution, I believe 35 makes the grade.]

your constitution criteria may not be what everyone else is using to denote what is perceived as his political naivete.

[richvart]

fredgrad2000

Earlier, when I said "raving" you were exactly what I was talking about.

You disprove your own point. You slam democrats by trying to tie them to moveon, dailykos, and Soros, but then you admit that they only account for 1% of democrats.

My "masters"? I''m "owned" by Soros? For you to believe this is for you to disavow your own evidence.

Bush''s approval rating is 24% that means that 76% think he is doing a bad job. It is becoming harder and harder to understand your perspective when 76% of us agree on something and you call us extremist and out of touch.

[redhoffer]

fredgrad2000 - You bought the right wing hate machine.

DailyKos is irrelevant compared to the power of the right wing media such as FoxNews, Rush, and Savage. It is a non-entity, you need not fear it as it doesnt compare to the power and inifluence of your Big Media.

MoveOn is piddly compared as an agent of power or change compared to the Church and Evangelicals who mobilize their influence to put forth the agenda you prefer.

You created false power and fale enemies. The Repubs have All the power and organization at their discretion.

It''s like your fear of Big Hollywood. Please. Nothing compared to the power of Big Corporation.

Katrina, Iraq, making enemies of allies. All Repub fault and Bush''s fault. Heck, you blame the mayor of N.O for Katrina. Ha!

Think.

[speakinup]

"I think it takes an idiot to stand their ground and not change even when they are wrong.

"I hope Obama has the wisdom to change his mind.
Something Bush is not capable of..
Posted by jh6379

And, I understand your opinion. But, just for the sake of understanding something, let''s say the man REALLY believes he''s right. Just because you think he''s wrong doesn''t make him an idiot or incapabile of changing his mind.

You do a disservice to yourself to not understand this.

Yeah - it''s fun saying those things - but it still doesn''t necessarily make them true.

[nyckate]

oh for petes sake...

239,000 democrats voted in Iowa - that''s less than 1% of population.

108,000 republicans voted there - that''s not even 0.5% of population.

The hysteria is too much over less than 1.5% voters.

[mick7744]

"Obama is much more of a man than Bush will ever be.
Posted by jh6379

But then...so is Hillary, Edwards, Huckabee & McCain.

I left Guiliani out of that group because I figure he and Bush are a draw in the manhood dept.

[gunownerdan]

Since Kucinich is out, there goes any chance of having a beautiful woman(his wife) in the white house.

[marcodele]

"Obama is much more of a man than Bush will ever be."

So is Hillary and anyone else who actually worked for a living instead of having Daddy buy you positions.

[fredgrad2000]

"Obama is much more of a man than Bush will ever be." - Posted by jh6379

And Bush was president of the US and governor of Texas for TWO terms (he left midway through term #2) while you are just another angry looney lefty posting to an internet webpage. So enjoy your Bush-hating rage; must drive you loons nuts to know that he definitely couldn''t care less what you have to say, and that the next president will have this country looking much more like it does right now under President Bush than what your masters at MoveOn and DailyKos would like...get the hint, the Kucinich''s of the world that toe the MoveOn line get 1% of the vote; and not of the national vote, of the liberal Dem Primary vote!! Your chosen Dem leaders all will have troops in Iraq for years because they know we can''t afford to lose there to the likes of Al Qaeda and Iran, they won''t institute government-run healthcare, there will be no Dept of Peace, and if necessary, even Obama has said he''ll bomb Pakistan to get Osama. Those simple facts that let me know the loons on this board and in this country and owned by George Soros will never get any real power other than the power to slander and "scream" on comment boards is what allows me to sleep well at night...ahhhhhhh