Comments on: Dem Candidates Blast Bush Over Iran

Clinton Draws Criticism From Rivals During Radio Debate In Wake Of Report On Iranian Nukes

[mudrose-2009]

IF BUSH PLANTED A TREE, THE DEMOCRATS WOULD BLAST HIM FOR ABUSING THE DIRT.

Posted by bizzzz

And it better be secular dirt, too. We don''t want any God fearing dirt. Not in our country.

[realpatriot1]

mudrose,

Last Wednesday? The White House is sending out mixed signals on that. They''re essentially saying that he comprehended the info last Wednesday but was briefed well prior to that.

The White House said he was waiting for confirmation. If they we''re given info that the program had stopped, shouldn''t they have cooled the rhetoric while "confirming"? And what did he know last Wednesday that was different than an initial report that they may have suspended the program in 2003?

He was willin gto go to war without confirming curveball but needed to somehow confirm this intel in order to silence the war drumbeats?

The most manaical part is that he''s still beating the drums. We should be working with other members of the international community to maintain an inspection program to monitor Iran but ther''s no justification for setting off WW3 over faulty flimsy intel. This is why preemptive war is nuts and why it isn''t the left that''s looney on this issue, it''s the right whose looney.

[bizzzz-2009]

WHY ARE THE DEM''S, AND ANYBODY ELSE FOR THAT MATTER, BLASTING BUSH OVER IRAN? BUSH HAS ADDRESSED SOLELY DIPLOMATICALLY, WE HAVEN"T CONFRONTED THEM MILITARILY. THEIR LEADER HAS REPEATEDLY SAID HE WANTS TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP. IRAN DOES HAVE A COVERT NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND THEY ARE ENRICHING URANIUM.
THE REPORT STATES IRAN STOPPED THEIR WEAPONS PROGRAM AFTER WE INVADED IRAQ. WHAT HAS BUSH DONE WRONG REGARDING IRAN?

IF BUSH PLANTED A TREE, THE DEMOCRATS WOULD BLAST HIM FOR ABUSING THE DIRT.

[robertkjjj]

Let there be no mistake: this is a weak group of Democrats, and they are fighting among themselves so much that they will become even weaker. I have correctly predicted the nominees and the winners of the last 10 Presidential elections, and although predicting for 2008 is tough, I''m going to now predict the race for next year. For Republicans, I see Mitt Romney getting the nomination. He''s the best speaker, best debater, and most intelligent of the bunch. Rudy will burn out. Rudy has too many skeletons and a temper. Huckabee has too little name recognition and his last name is killing him; sounds too much like a hillbilly. Thompson is lazy and too slow. Ron Paul: you got to be kidding. For the Democrats, it''s more a process of elimination: Obama? Sorry, but there is simply no way mostly-conservative America will nominate a black man named Barack Obama; not seeing this happen at all. Edwards? Too wimpy and whiny; he looks and talks weak. All the others are not well known and have incredibly small numbers. Clinton looks like the one who will stay on top. For the 11/08 general election, it will be Romney vs. Clinton. Look for a brutal summer and fall next year of Hillary vs. Mitt. Because Hillary is a polarizing figure, and there are over 20 million Americans who have said they will not vote for her no matter what, I see Romney winning a very close one in the general election, with about 5-to-10 more electoral votes than Hillary. The next President will be Mitt Romney.

[mudrose-2009]

It''s deja vu all over again. The Bush Derangement Syndrome lefties are all out in full force. See, when Bush believed the Intel on Iraq he was lying. Now he disputes the Intel on Iran and well, surprise, surprise, he''''s lying. The new Intel now gave Iran the ability to start up its program with impunity. Suspension does not mean cessation. But the lefties have it all figured out. Wish you people would stop kissing George Soros''''s azz.

[mudrose-2009]

I think it''''s important for the public to know "what the President knew and when he knew it" for the sake of understanding what went on here.

realpatriot 1

Bush knew it last Wednesday. Not one minute before that. And again, suspension is not cessation. The Intel community renderes its "opinion" not any proof. So once burned twice shy on the Bush side and the dimnowits still stone him.

[realpatriot1]

muddie,

PART 2- One clarifying point. My concern about escalation isn''t just because Russia & China have interests in Iran.

I''ve read several speculative reports that if we we''re going to attack what we expected to be hardened bunkers or heavily fortified installations, we would need to use tactical nukes of our own. In other words, a nuclear preemptive strike based upon what''s now been admitted to be false intel. China would''ve gotten involved because their population would''ve been affected by the radiation being carried in the windstream.

These reports were hypothetical and Bush/Cheney didn''t follow through on the rhetoric, but there was and still is a concern that they still will, based upon past behavior and their public statements.

[realpatriot1]

muddie,

I agree with your point that suspension doesn''t mean cessation. The very nature of intelligence is that it''s almost always incomplete and inconclusive to some degree.

I think it''s important for the public to know "what the President knew and when he knew it" for the sake of understanding what went on here. The fact is that Bush has a consistent track record of being less than truthful and the old Reagan addage of "trust but verify" is appropriate here. Just substitute Clinton for Bush in your mind and you''ll see what I''m getting at, it doesn''t pay to put blind trust in any politician.

That''s not the primary issue for me though. Assuming that he has been truthful, his statements on Iraq & Iran and his actions with Iraq show a dangerous penchant for acting preemptively on unreliable intelligence.

In this case, a preemptive strike would''ve led to, at the very least, a Clinton Milk factory situation(only on a exponentially larger scale) and, at worst, an escalation with Russian & Chinese involvement. We would''ve been responsible for WW3 as much as Iran.

[pepperp1]

What the candidates and Speaker Pelosi needs to do is demand Reid and McConnell get over the bickering and correct this law before it hits an already struggling class of people, the loop hole of the hedge funds where they are only paying 15 percent should also be closed, these are errors is how the bill was crafted and not the intent of the code changes when written. The American People are not going to accept the finger pointing on this vote and step up and be Accountable stop the posturing put the people first over campaigning,

And Obama show up to vote this time.

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"We all know this is a pernicious tax, a stealth tax," Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont.,

[jowand]

Dont you get it already?
Repug, Southern Baaptaist types need a second coming,
to prove to everyone theive been right all along,
it doesnt matter that the space ship wont show up.
all they need is Armageddon at any price.
Posted by rokero0666 at 09:17 AM : Dec 05, 2007

You''re confused that''s the Iranians.