Comments on: Illegal Immigrant License Debate Heats Up

Hillary Clinton's Comments Spur Debate Over New York State And National Policy

[nhprophet]

WHY DOES HE VOTE NO ON SO MANY BILLS?
Ron Paul "is one of the easiest people in Congress to work with, because he bases his positions on the merits of issues," says Barney Frank, who has worked with Paul on efforts to ease the regulation of gambling and medical marijuana. "He is independent, but not ornery." Paul has made a habit of objecting to things that no one else objects to. Simply put, RON PAUL NEVER VOTES FOR ANY BILL WHICH HE FEELS IS NOT AUTHORIZED BY The Constitution. In October 2001, he was one of only three House Republicans to vote against the USA Patriot Act. He was the sole House member of either party to vote against the Financial Antiterrorism Act (412-1). In 1999, he was the only naysayer in a 424-1 vote in favor of casting a medal to honor Rosa Parks. Nothing against Rosa Parks. Paul also voted against similar medals for Reagan and Pope John Paul II. He offered a $100 of his own money to help pay for Reagan''s medal, and invited others in Congress to match his offer, but not one Member took him-up on it. Instead, they spent YOUR money. He not only routinely opposes resolutions that are unconstitutional, he votes against Bills which presume to advise foreign governments how to run their affairs: He has refused to condemn Mugabe''s violence against Zimbabwean citizens (421-1), to call on Vietnam to release political prisoners (425-1) or to ask the League of Arab States to help stop the killing in Darfur (425-1). Paul is a man of principle.

[nhprophet]

IS RON PAUL CONTROLLED BY SPECIAL INTEREST?
In Congress, Ron Paul is not only known for his lack of ego (a rare quality in Washington), he''s widely admired for his resistance to the influence of special interest groups. They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. He consistanly votes against pork-barrel spending. In a rice-growing, cattle-ranching district, Dr. Paul consistently votes against farm subsidies. In the very district where, on the night of Sept. 8, 1900, a storm destroyed the city of Galveston, and where repairs from Hurricane Rita and refugees from Hurricane Katrina continue to exact their toll, he votes against FEMA and flood aid. In a district that is home to thousands of employees of the Johnson Space Center, he votes against financing NASA. Nothwithstanding this, his constituants in the 14th District of Texas continue to re-relect him. Why? You ask? I think one voter I talked to there summarized it nicely when she said, "We may not like his vote. But we trust his heart." Ron Paul is a man with Presidential-like constitutional integrity and frugal spending principles, which I fully support. That''s why he has my vote.

[nhprophet]

IS RON PAUL A RACIST OR ANTI-SEMITE?
The question is whether the old ideologies being resurrected are neglected wisdom or discredited nonsense. In the 1996 general election, Paul''s Democratic opponent Lefty Morris held a press conference to air several shocking quotes from a newsletter that Paul published during his decade away from Washington. Passages described the black male population of Washington as "semi-criminal" or "entirely criminal" and stated that by far "the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government."

Paul survived these revelations. He later explained that he had not written the passages himself quite believably, since the style diverges widely from his own. But his response to the accusations was not transparent. When Morris called on him to release the rest of his newsletters, he would not. He remains touchy about it. "Even the fact that you''re asking this question infers, Oh, you''re an anti-Semite," he told a NYT reporter in June. Actually, it doesn''t. Paul was in Congress when Israel bombed Iraq''s Osirak nuclear plant in 1981, and unlike the United Nations and the Reagan administration, defended Israel''s right to do so. He says Saudi Arabia has an influence on Washington equal to Israel''s. His votes against support for Israel follow quite naturally from his opposition to all foreign aid. There is no sign that they reflect any special animus against the Jewish state.

[nhprophet]

DOES RON PAUL WANT A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT DEFINING MARRAIGE?
Ron Paul''s position on a Constitutional Amendment defining marraige. "It''s unnecessary." The institution of marriage is not a federal issue. As The Constitution tells us, Those powers which are not explicitly provided to the Federal Government "shall be reserved to the States." So, hypothetically, if Massachusetts legalizes gay marraige, then that marriage would have to be honored like any other by the other States under The Constitution''s "equal protection" clause. Ron Paul isn''t against gay marriage either. That''s just what Socialist fear-mongers want you to think. He believes, as I do, that everyone has a right to their own personal beliefs about what LOVE is too--you can NEVER FORCE PERSONAL YOUR BELIEFS on another person.

[candide777]

"I am unwilling either to cede to federal courts the authority to redefine marriage, or to deny a state%u2019s ability to preserve the traditional definition of marriage." Ron Paul

There is no question but that Ron Paul would have also voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as unconstitutional. It is also beyond question that if it were up to Ron, states would still be permitted to prohibit blacks from marrying whites, and they would still be allowed to keep blacks separate but "equal," among other things that this nation no longer finds morally tolerable. It''''s time to get wrong-minded people like Ron Paul out of government. If you doubt what Ron Paul is about, just witness what his supporters have done to this website. They have no respect for anyone''''s right to speak but their own, and they are incapable of engaging in rational debate. Vote for anyone, but don''''t vote for Ron Paul!

[nhprophet]

Ron Paul "is one of the easiest people in Congress to work with, because he bases his positions on the merits of issues," says Barney Frank, who has worked with Paul on efforts to ease the regulation of gambling and medical marijuana. "He is independent, but not ornery." Paul has made a habit of objecting to things that no one else objects to. Simply put, RON PAUL NEVER VOTES FOR ANY BILL WHICH HE FEELS IS NOT AUTHORIZED BY THE CONSTITUTION (no matter what it''s mis-named). In October 2001, he was one of only three House Republicans to vote against the USA Patriot Act. He was the sole House member of either party to vote against the Financial Antiterrorism Act (final tally: 412-1). In 1999, he was the only naysayer in a 424-1 vote in favor of casting a medal to honor Rosa Parks. Nothing against Rosa Parks, apparently: Paul also voted against similar medals for Ronald Reagan, who was a close personal friend, and Pope John Paul II as well. He not only routinely opposes resolutions that are unconstitutional, he votes against all Bills which presume to advise foreign governments how to run their affairs: He has refused to condemn Robert Mugabe%u2019s violence against Zimbabwean citizens (421-1), to call on Vietnam to release political prisoners (425-1) or to ask the League of Arab States to help stop the killing in Darfur (425-1). This man not only talks the talk. He walks the walk--a man of principle (exactly the type of President we need).

[nhprophet]

In Congress, Ron Paul is not only known for his lack of ego (a rare quality in Washington), he''s widely admired for his resistance to the influence of special interest groups. They don''t call him "Dr. No" for no reason. He consistanly votes against pork-barrel spending. In a rice-growing, cattle-ranching district, Dr. Paul consistently votes against farm subsidies. In the very district where, on the night of Sept. 8, 1900, a storm destroyed the city of Galveston, and where repairs from Hurricane Rita and refugees from Hurricane Katrina continue to exact their toll, he votes against FEMA and flood aid. In a district that is home to thousands of employees of the Johnson Space Center, he votes against financing NASA. Nothwithstanding this, his constituants in the 14th District of Texas continue to re-relect him. Why? You ask? I think one voter I talked to there summarized it nicely when she said, "We may not like his vote. But we trust his heart." Ron Paul is a man with Presidential-like constitutional integrity and frugal spending principles, which I fully support. That''s why he has my vote.

[slipster01]

Ron Paul voted against the Do-Not-Call Registry

Ron Paul voted against extending Unemployment Compensation Act

Ron Paul voted against the Supplemental Appropriations Act for Further Recovery From and Response to Terrorist Attacks

Ron Paul voted against stricter penalties for sexual predators

Ron Paul voted aginst the Keeping Children and Families Safe Act

Ron Paul voted against the Child Custody Protection Act

Ron Paul voted against the Internet Freedom and Broadband Deployment Act

Ron Paul refused to recognize A Resolution Honoring the Contributions of Catholic Schools

Ron Paul regularly votes against funding the military (year after year)

Ron Paul voted against the Public Health Security and Bioterrorism Response Act

Ron Paul voted against Expressing Solidarity With Israel in the Fight Against Terrorism

Ron Paul voted against the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act

Ron Paul was the only vote against the Federal Long-Term Care Insurance Amendments Act

Ron Paul was the only vote against the Financial Anti-Terrorism Act

Ron Paul voted against deterring and punishing terrorist acts in the United States and around the world

Ron Paul voted against Urging the Secretary of Energy to Fill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve

Ron Paul was the only vote against the Military Construction Appropriations

Ron Paul was the only vote against the resolution To Promote Freedom and Democracy in Viet Nam

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by roadking041 at 04:06 AM

I''m sorry, but I didn''t get past the first sentence of your racist tirade. Take a trip with your fellow KKK members to a nice warm place on the other side of life.

[candide777]

Vote for Ron Paul.
Posted by NHProphet at 02:13 AM : Nov 03, 2007
Posted by USProphet at 06:59 PM : Nov 02, 2007

Do all Ron Paul supporters have diareah of the mouth or is it just you? Is his campaign paying you to cut and paste the same spam over and over and over again? I bet you make a new enemy for Ron Paul with every annoying post (I hope and pray anyway). I actually use to like Ron Paul''s honesty, but now that I see how obnoxious his supporters are, I''m definitely going to spread the word about what a nutcase Ron Paul is. Thanks for getting me involved!!

[nhprophet]

What we need is for someone to show us the way. Not the old way. Not the same way, but a NEW WAY. Think about this for a minute. What if we pulled all of our troops out of South Korea? They''ve been there for 50+ years. What if we quit worrying about Iran, but instead, realized that its having a nuclear weapon will not mean the end of the world? What if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle-East, and brought them all home? What if we realistically addressed the National Debt, and paid attention to REALLY DOING SOMETHING about stopping illegal immigration? These are the ideas of Republican Presidential candidate, Dr. Ron Paul. He''s a ten term Congressman and a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He''s an intellectual who''s published four books, three of which are devoted entirely to sound economics and one to foreign policy. He was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania as a pious Lutheran, but now he attends a Baptist church. Paul is given to mulling things over morally. Whenever he recollects the helicopter pilots he treated as an Air Force Flight Surgeon (Captain) during the Vietnam War, a war which he now says was "totally unnecessary and illegal," he laments, "They were gung-ho. I%u2019ve often thought about how many of those people never came back." Candidates with the high level of personal integrity and proven track record of adherance to The Constitution, Congressman Paul has always demonstrated only come around once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky.

[rudy654-2009]

Posted by jraf766 at 07:50 PM

I was trying to read your post, but it was terribly incoherent and poorly written. The spelling was simply atrocious. I what I could read didn''t make any sense. I offer an English class for adults. May I suggest you enroll right away? Perhaps I can interest you in some basic education courses, as well.

[jraf766]

hey rudy better than musliims, your a racist, you an animal too, we all are.

Lot of them have joined the marines and army to fight the wars of the united states something that you wont do you p u s s y!

Now shut up, and get real this people are here to work.

Your kids will mary a mexican, parents always pay through there children.

Except it and deal with it.

[bill1fj]

Illegal aliens should NOT be eligible for licenses.
If caught they should be deported.
Anyone hiring them should be fined heavily.
Do NOT vote for anyone that supports amnesty for ILLEGAL Aliens.
Throw those politicians out of office and the illegals out of the country.
Thank You

[rudy654-2009]

"I could care less about their plight. My plight is worse, though different, when I have to be exposed to the filth of these animals, tolerate their refusal to speak English..." posted by Drivel

As far as I am concerned you are not worth the powder to blow you to.... After you dared to repeat a Nazi slogan about people, human beings, being sub-human and now filthy animals, while you yourself are the lowest of creatures. Any and all who support your thinking are of an ilk that this country would be better off without. So, may your gawwd remember your lack of compassion, and may it come back to you 10 fold.

[rudy654-2009]

They should have done it the right way---Like the Japanese for instance, Polish, Irish, Italians, Spainish, the list is endless---all "legal" immigrants that made this country great .
Posted by thgdriver at 06:39 PM

Yeah right. You mean all those poor Euros who came over here during the great migration when there were virtually no laws at ALL!!!! Those people right? Well, today they wouldn''t be allowed because they were poor. So you don''t know what you''re talking about, because you probably listen to Limbogg and Insanity Hannity.

[usprophet]

I agree with Ron Paul about the issue of illegal immigration. The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. Ron Paul has a plan: (1.) Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals. (2.) Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas. (3.) No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That''s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws. (4.) No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules, but taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services. (5.) End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong. (6.) Pass true immigration reform. The current system, and those proposed by ALL other candidates, is incoherent and unfair, and would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country. Vote for Ron Paul.

[usprophet]

You get the sense that our country is desperate for someone to show us the way. Not the old way. Not the same way, but a NEW WAY. Think about this for a minute. What if we pulled all of our troops out of South Korea? They''ve been there for 50+ years. What if we quit worrying about Iran, but instead, realized that its having a nuclear weapon will not mean the end of the world? What if we pulled all of our troops out of the Middle-East, and brought them all home? What if we realistically addressed the National Debt, and paid attention to REALLY DOING SOMETHING about stopping illegal immigration? These are the ideas of Republican Presidential candidate, Dr. Ron Paul. He''s a ten term Congressman and a physician who has delivered over 4,000 babies. He''s an intellectual who''s published four books, three of which are devoted entirely to sound economics. He was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania as a pious Lutheran, but now he attends a Baptist church. Paul is given to mulling things over morally. Whenever he recollects the helicopter pilots he treated as an Air Force Flight Surgeon (Captain) during the Vietnam War, a war which he now says was "totally unnecessary and illegal," he laments, "They were gung-ho. I%u2019ve often thought about how many of those people never came back." Candidates with the high level of personal integrity and proven track record of adherance to The Constitution, Congressman Paul has always demonstrated only come around once in a lifetime, if we''re lucky.

[usprophet]

Ron Paul represents a different Republican Party from the one that Iraq, deficits and corruption have soured the country on. It''s ironic that other GOP candidates are scared to death of his message, BECAUSE his is more conservative than theirs. Being anti-war IS CONSERVATIVE. Another key difference between his message and the others is that he is a strong defender of The Constitution, which protects our civil liberties. The other Presidential candidates, who are mostly NWO Oligarchs, want to erase your liberties. They''ve tried hard to exlude Paul from the spotlight, along with the sold-out, mainstream media (CBS). In late June, despite a life of antitax agitation and pious churchgoing, he was excluded from a Republican forum sponsored by Iowa anti-tax and Christian groups. Ron Paul does not represent your Father''s school of political thought. He represents your Founding Fathers. He stands for a certain idea of the Constitution; the idea that much of the power asserted by modern presidents has been usurped from Congress, and that much of the power asserted by Congress has been usurped from the States. Though Dr. Paul acknowledges flaws in both The Constitution (it included slavery) and its Bill of Rights (it doesn%u2019t go far enough), he still thinks a comprehensive array of positions can be drawn therefrom: against gun control; for the sovereignty of States; and against foreign-policy adventures. His message draws on the noblest traditions of American decency and patriotism.

[usprophet]

Some people say, "a Republican? I''d never vote for a Republican." Let me remind you folks that Abraham Lincoln, who freed the slaves, and who won the war to preserve our Union, WAS himself a Republican. Would you have voted for Stephen Douglas, who was ardently pro slavery, against Lincoln simply because he was a Democrat? Of course you wouldn''t. It''s the person your voting for, and the ideas he or she represents, NOT the party. Ron Paul represents a different Republican Party from the one that Iraq, deficits and corruption have soured the country on. The Republican party has "lost its way," he said recently, during a GOP debate. Like the limited federal government principles espoused by Dwight D. Eisenhower, his school of Republicanism stands for a certain idea of the Constitution that much of the power asserted by modern Presidents has been usurped from Congress, and that much of the power asserted by Congress has been usurped from the States. Though Paul acknowledges flaws in both the Constitution (it included slavery) and the Bill of Rights (it doesn''t go far enough), he still thinks a comprehensive array of positions can be drawn therefrom: against gun control; for the sovereignty of States; and against foreign-policy adventures like the ones currently being played-out in the Mid-East. After ten terms of service as a U.S. Congressman, Ron Paul has demonstarted a consistent track record of adherance to The Constitution unmatched by anyone in either party. Go Ron Paul!