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What Does The Future Hold For The $5 Million Man?

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by dwayneahall October 7, 2007 2:51 PM EDT
Dr. Paul will legalize marijuana so all you pot heads get registered as Republicans to vote him in! You will get a bonus of fewer wars and taxes too!

Arkansas
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by dwayneahall October 7, 2007 2:49 PM EDT
Thanks Brian for your excellent coverage of Dr. Paul. Those of us who think Dr. Paul has a chance appreciate good stories like this. Please keep your eye on the freedom campaign, were rollin now!

Dwayne
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by brettrix October 7, 2007 2:47 PM EDT
likeitis5050,
Don''t be a hater, Join the Revolution. We fought for this exposure for the last 6 months. And we bought it for $5 million.

Notice that The Ron Paul Factor is the second most viewed story on cbsnews and it was the most viewed last night when I went to bed...

He has around 90,000 supporters by some estimates. Contributions averaged around $40. There are so many volunteers that have donated money - the $5 million only represents about 50% of the movement.

I am happy to see that my $125 contribution to the campaign went towards all the good press from the main stream media.

THANK YOU CBS
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by erichsh October 7, 2007 2:43 PM EDT
likeitis5050 - so who do YOU want to be President? You managed to trash Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, and the Green Party all in one post! The posters you cite have defined Ron Paul''s specific positions on specific issues, and have come out in favor of them.

And for the legions of Moveon.org Bush-haters out there, what do you hate more? The ware in Iraq or the Republican Party? Here is a man whose stated policy is an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, but he''s a Republican. Think you could vote for Paul?
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by iaoki October 7, 2007 2:33 PM EDT
Please, review YOURSELF what Ron Paul has written over decades about his policy and decide YOURSELF to vote or not to Ron Paul. His flawless voting record in 20 years of Congress proves that he DOES EXACTLY what he writes and speeches.

Here are the links:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/#art2
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/

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by brettrix October 7, 2007 2:30 PM EDT
myidonCBS-
Ron Paul is not a miralce worker. I don''t believe he will be able to remove govt completely in 4 years nor without the help from all of our local representatives...

but it might be something to shoot for in his second term.

Net neutrality is important to me. So is the writ of habeus corpus.

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by cfin5 October 7, 2007 2:24 PM EDT
likitis5050,.....You forgot me! That''s not fair. :)
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by iaoki October 7, 2007 2:22 PM EDT
If we assume that similar thing as 2004 can happen in 2008, we should not care at all about the numbers from any National "Scientific" Polls. There is this precedence of Kerry jumping from 4% in Dec/2003 to 53% after NH in 2004 in CBS National Poll. Jimmy Carter and Clinton were as low in poll as Ron Paul at this point in race. National polls show just name recognition, which is very different from will to vote for a given candidate.

On the other hand, debate polls and Straw Polls, in which informed voters vote, give much more meaningful indication of voters preference. Ron Paul was 1st in 4 out of 6 GOP debates and 2nd in one. One had no poll. He is 1st/2nd/3rd in almost every GOP Straw Polls.

CBS News Poll, December 14-16, 2003
Dean - 23%
Clark - 10%
Lieberman - 10%
Gephardt - 6%
Sharpton - 5%
Kerry - 4%
Edwards - 2%

The week before Iowa the caucuses:
Dean - 20%
Clark - 13%
Lieberman - 8%
Gephardt - 7%
Kerry - 7%

Now, taken two days after Kerry wins Iowa and before the New Hampshire primaries, these are what the national numbers were:
Kerry - 29%
Dean - 17%
Edwards - 13%
Clark -11%
Lieberman - 5%

that same poll taken just after Iowa and New Hampshire:
Kerry - 53%
Dean - 8%
Edwards - 7%
Sharpton - 4%

Source: http://race42008.com/2007/07/05/why-national-primary-polls-dont-matter/

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by likeitis5050 October 7, 2007 2:16 PM EDT
CBS...thank you for creating a thread just for Ibedi, brettrix, GladeTryst, Akston, singletax, rsmphd, earlinga, wpitts69, tylenol6, Fizzie319, Prinzowhales, IRON-MAN01, Vote4Paul, tuckerndfw, USAyesterday, geneonlbk, negemo. Very generous of you to devote a section just for these nut jobs.

For those who have wandered into an area clearly not inhibited by sanity, before venturing too far and risking exposure, let''s remember how Bush was able to even get close enough for the Supreme Court to have to step in and give it to him....

NADER FOR PRESIDENT!!! That''s right. All these nuts who think their votes, all combined, will outstrip the 95% who will vote either Dem or Rep, leaving such a close call that the 5% who chose to trash their vote actually allow the worst of the worst to get inside. And then they have the nerve to bi..tch and moan about how awful the Administration is now. Were they actually operating with a working set of brain cells the problem would be obvious..but, alas, they are doomed to wander the message boards looking for their own space....

Have at it...your very own crazy space.
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by lochlan-2009 October 7, 2007 2:13 PM EDT
Just curious if anyone noticed that the Canadian Dollar is now worth MORE then the U.S. dollar. I didn''t hear any news about it, guess this is something the majority of America doesn''t care about. A 70% increase in value against the dollar since Bush took office.

Americans... you are amazing.
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by mergatroid_4 October 7, 2007 1:47 PM EDT
Check out what Mergatroidal commented upon:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/06/national/main3338860.shtml
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by zootallures2 October 7, 2007 1:37 PM EDT
CBS covering Ron Paul? Did Hilery and Curric get in a fight over wearing the same dress to an AIPAC dinner?

Really? Ron Paul on CBS? I better get my camera...
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by gunownerdan October 7, 2007 1:28 PM EDT
Because 2 political parties have hijacked our government, Ron Paul must run as a republican in order to be given a fair chance. Third parties are basically shut-out of our government thanks to laws and regulations passed by the duopoly.
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by prinzowhales October 7, 2007 1:22 PM EDT
gkc99 posted in part: "...Of course the billionaires clique that owns and operates the Bushit regime won''''t stand still for anyone like that coming anywhere close to the Presidency!"

Then its going to be just too bad for that particular clique and its servants.

Its far past time for elements on both ends of the political spectrum to realize that we have too many things in common to be at odds...We want what is best for ourselves and our fellow Americans--not what is best for a ruling elite bent on world domination for themselves at our expense....

Both Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul recognize the evil of the Federal Reserve System--I have reservations myself about the wisdom of returning to a system based on gold and silver, but it is far better than the one we have today. We need a monetary system that is both flexible and in which the unit of account or exchange holds its value over time. The tyranny of the gold standard, so eloquently denounced by William Jennings Bryan in his ''Cross of Gold'' speech, can be measured in destroyed farms and businesses as bankers drove the value of money and debt instruments through the roof. The tyranny of inflation and ''tight money'' crises engineered by the FED drove businesses and farmers into penury periodically since its inception. Behind both systems lay a common denominator--the oligarchy and banking establishment.
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by gkc99 October 7, 2007 12:55 PM EDT
Whether one agrees with his positions or not, Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air amongst the sleazy, thieving, conniving, back-slapping, phony-religious group of corrupts pols that dominate today''s US political scene. It''s a refreshing change, and hope for the future, that some at least can keep their honor in politics. Of course the billionaires clique that owns and operates the Bushit regime won''t stand still for anyone like that coming anywhere close to the Presidency!
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by prinzowhales October 7, 2007 12:39 PM EDT
Do you realize that the greatest cost of a home is not the labour, the materials, the land...it is the money....

...and that money is for the most part created through a fractional reserve banking system out of nothing? On a thirty-year mortgage you will pay more for the money than for any other factor...

...and the real interest rate on the actual money of the depositors is over 25%?

This power to create money was given to private bankers who own the FED--it is they who benefit from it. We get nothing for this un-Constitutional transfer of the monetary powers of the United States.

The ''dollar'' as our forefathers knew it no longer exists. A dollar is a measure of gold or silver-- not a ''Federal Reserve Note''. The value of this Note has declined over the years so that it only has the value of a tiny fraction of the US dollar prior to the FED''s inception.

Its time to fix the monetary system of the United States so that it benefits the people of the United States--not the oligarchy who own this abomination, the FED.

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by myidoncbs October 7, 2007 12:35 PM EDT
When I was very young, I thought the Libertarians had it right. Individual Freedom is exactly what every teenager wants. As I matured, I began to see that government actually has many important roles, not just "defense". Many areas of life simply can''t be governed by individuals, or even by corporations (as the Repugnant GOP would prefer).

For example, commerce must be regulated by something powerful enough to overcome the rush to greed. Products and services unleashed on an unsuspecting public may kill. We can''t expect each individual to know what''s safe and what is tainted. The market place can''t regulate the marketers, so government must be involved. This is just one example of the failure of the Libertarian philosophy.

What about Ron Paul, who is running as a Libertarian in GOP clothing? His supporters make various grandiose claims about how he''ll "eliminate the IRS", etc. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. The government must have money to operate.

Thank you, Akston, for a thoughtful post with links to more information about Ron Paul. I''ll check them out when I get a chance. Everyone should learn as much as they can about each candidate. The Bushies have created a terrible mess, and it''s going to take a good leader to undo it all.
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by wisen1 October 7, 2007 12:26 PM EDT
I''m 64 and my husband is 66. We are Republicans. We are voting for Dr. Paul. My best friends are 72 and 76 years of age and they are voting for Dr. Paul. His message is resonating with old-time Republicans.
Please don''t say otherwise.
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by prinzowhales October 7, 2007 12:19 PM EDT
nolalou--Nazism, fascism and corporatism are ideologies that glorify the State...Are you maintaining that a man who wants to diminish the power of the central government is some how connected to these abhorent philosophies? That is just plaiin goofy.

How do you think Bush is financing his war against humanity?--The FED is creating the buying power out of nothing! The private owners of the FED enjoy the power and income of this system of usury, monopoly and oppression...Now, you come along and tell us that Paul, the FEDs greatest political opponent who is out to destroy it is tied somehow to Nazis? That is not only goofy, that is Bush-goofy!

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by brettrix October 7, 2007 11:56 AM EDT
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul%u2019s Record:

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

I say - Buy American- Vote Ron Paul
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