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Republican Rivals Focus On Former Mayor's Past Support For Gun Control

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by taotxzen September 21, 2007 10:18 PM EDT
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Australia
"Eleven years ago we took action to limit the availability of guns, and we showed a national resolve that the gun culture that is such a negative in the United States would never become a negative in our country."
%u2014Australian Prime Minister John Howard, expressing sympathy for the victims'' families and referring to the 1996 shooting spree by a man with a semi-automatic rifle who killed 35 people in Port Arthur, on the island of Tasmania. Australia banned most types of semi-automatic weapons after the incident.


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by taotxzen September 21, 2007 10:17 PM EDT
I know none of the gun toters want to hear this nor do they care, which is one reason we are where we are...

What the rest of the world is saying after the Virginia Tech shootings.

Europe
"Why, we ask, do Americans continue to tolerate gun laws and a culture that seems to condemn thousands of innocents to death every year, when presumably, tougher restrictions, such as those in force in European countries, could at least reduce the number?"
%u2014Mangus Linklater, The Times of London columnist
"There''s only one real %u2018freedom'' in America%u2014the freedom to kill one another%u2026 if guns weren''t so readily available in the %u2018land of the free,'' this tragedy might never have happened."
%u2014The Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins
"In a country where %u2018the right to bear arms'' is written into the Constitution and where there are an estimated 192 million firearms, the problem isn''t simply one of a particular interest group. After the tragedy, voices rose up to deplore the fact that professors and students are not authorized to arm themselves, since one of them could have neutralized the killer. With that kind of reasoning, America is not close to overcoming its violence."

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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:55 PM EDT
"A gun was the weapon a coward chose."

Harrison Ford, if you don''t like that, you know where to find me, boy.

(I''ll comfort Callista later...)
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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:49 PM EDT
RE: "A gun is the weapon a coward would choose."

We can all recall that famous scene in "Indiana Jones."

The "hero" is confronted by the two deadly swordsmen. He pulls out his gun and blows them both away.

It was comedy, but it spoke to a certain truth.

A gun was the weapon a coward chose.
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by pfdurand35 September 21, 2007 9:47 PM EDT
And how many times has someone''s life been saved because someone owned a gun and shot an inntruder? Give me a break. "Oh the criminals will still have guns, wah". And once they know we are unarmed they will all unite against us "honest people" and wipe us out. Paranoid much? If it takes guns to make people feel safe, they have bigger issues. Again, I''m not against guns owned for hunting unless they are owned by *** Cheney.
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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:45 PM EDT
"Too bad more liberals don''t own more guns, might help thin the herd via all those accidental shootings..."
- Posted by badaxmofo at 06:42 PM : Sep 21, 2007

Don''t you have a bad ax to grind ?
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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:41 PM EDT
RE: "In 1998, for every one woman who used a handgun to kill an intimate acquaintance in self defense, 83 women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance using a handgun."

It figures.

A gun is the weapon a coward would choose.

Cowards murder women.

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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:38 PM EDT
Sorry for the typo.

"In 1998, for every one woman who used a handgun to kill an intimate acquaintance in self defense, 83 women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance using a handgun."

Source:

http://endabuse.org/resources/facts/Guns.pdf
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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:34 PM EDT
"Guns and domestic violence are a lethal combination -injuring and killing women every day in the United States.

A gun is the weapon most commonly used in domestic homicides. In fact, more than three times as many women are murdered by guns used by their husbands or intimate acquaintances than are killed by strangers'' guns, knives or other weapons combined.

Of females killed with a firearm, almost two-thirds were killed by their intimate partners.

In 1998, for every one woman who used a handgun to kill an intimate acquaintance in self self defense,
83 women were murdered by an intimate acquaintance using a handgun."

Source:

http://endabuse.org/resources/facts/Guns.pdf
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by taotxzen September 21, 2007 9:29 PM EDT
S_Temper

America and Gun Violence
American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)

That%u2019s 10,570 parents that would disagree with you.
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by iceman_1960 September 21, 2007 9:25 PM EDT
"Republican Rudy Giuliani sought to reassure the National Rifle Association..."

Don''t Tase me, Bro'' !!

And in other news...

"Hillary Clinton: I am not a lesbian."

September 21, 2007

"WASHINGTON (CNN) %u2013 Sen. Hillary Clinton''s sexuality is not the most pressing issue on the presidential campaign trail, but it is likely to get a fair amount of attention on a lazy Friday in the nation%u2019s capital.

The New York Democrat tells "The Advocate" that she is not a lesbian, according to a story in Friday''s edition of The New York Daily News.

"It''s not true, but it is something that I have no control over," Clinton tells the magazine in a story set for publication next week.

"People will say what they want to say," she added."

Indeed they will.

Source:

http://www.cnn.com/
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by micma-2009 September 21, 2007 9:13 PM EDT



FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP!


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by gretagreen September 21, 2007 8:09 PM EDT
Fred said our right to bear arms comes from God - not the government. What a pandering doof. He makes Giuliani look good.
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by taotxzen September 21, 2007 7:36 PM EDT
RenoD37 speak for yourself. When every criminal crawling the sidestreets at 3 a.m. has either a handgun or automatic or both...you better hope it''''s never against the law for honest people to have them, too. One thing is 100% guaranteed...criminals will ALWAYS have access to weapons and they hope and pray one day they will be the ONLY ONES to have them because law abiding people will not risk breaking the law.


Just like every other free country in the...nevermind...
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by taotxzen September 21, 2007 7:34 PM EDT
Giuliani Tries To Win Over NRA - Brillant!

The Base always the Base..isnt that what Al Qaeda means in Arabic??
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by likeitis5050 September 21, 2007 7:25 PM EDT
ThinkHarder Let''''s solve the problem of the criminal element arming themselves, by arming everyone else!! Genius!!

let''s hear your solution since you''re so free with the insults.
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by likeitis5050 September 21, 2007 7:23 PM EDT
RenoD37 speak for yourself. When every criminal crawling the sidestreets at 3 a.m. has either a handgun or automatic or both...you better hope it''s never against the law for honest people to have them, too. One thing is 100% guaranteed...criminals will ALWAYS have access to weapons and they hope and pray one day they will be the ONLY ONES to have them because law abiding people will not risk breaking the law.
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by likeitis5050 September 21, 2007 7:18 PM EDT
Rudy''s hero is George Bush. What else is there to say? Vote him in and he will finish the job George started, which is to divide and eventually destroy America.
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by ixoye_02 September 21, 2007 7:08 PM EDT
Rudy is just plain sleazy. I think once people get the full picture of who Rudy truly is, you''ll find that Rudy is an opportunist who wants to paint a grand picture of himself and his accomplishments as NYC mayor during 9/11. Those credentials are at best shallow. We need real character and honesty and not just another pretender like Bush.
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by ez-one September 21, 2007 6:52 PM EDT
A little common sence could go a long way, the only reason Giuliani is going after the NRA is because its going to be hard for him to get the right winged christins after his divorces, affairs, and no telling what else the self rightous jerk has hidden. Making people regester hand guns and banning asalut rifles makes sence, something that most closed minded republacans don''t have. When did it become worng to use American tax payers dollars to help american tax payers. If you read the bible you would see that Jesus was a liberal
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