Comments on: Giuliani Will "Clarify" Views To NRA

Presidential Hopeful Seeks To Improve Contentious Relationship With Gun Group

[japetallar]

Let me clarify why the NRA sided no to the bill the senator from New Jersey tried to pass in the senatet that no person under the terrorist watch list can buy a gun. The mainstream liberal media has not told you the whole story. The NRA and people like myself would of course hate the idea that a terrorist can just buy a gun in America but the problem is the list. This is the same terrorist watch list that has put a lot of people in a group whose freedom of travel have been affected because they can''t board planes either. And it is not easy to be removed on this list either unless you are influential like Ted Kennedy. It one thing to have one''s civil rights violated by restricting one''s freedom of movement, it''s another to compound the same mistake with another by violating another one of one''s right to keep and bear arms because he is on a defective list created by someone who has no regard for due process. The liberal media was the first to cry foul when innocent people were added to the list but said the opposite when the same people are going to be subjected to the same discrimination over their 2nd amendment right.

Fix the list. I am sure there are bad people in the list but not all of them. The NRA is just standing out for our civil rights unlike the liberals who just pick and choose the rights which apply to them.

[micma-2009]

FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP!!!!

[gunownerdan]

"Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control. Our Founders, having just expelled the British army, knew that the right to bear arms serves as the guardian of every other right. This is the principle so often ignored by both sides in the gun control debate. Only armed citizens can resist tyrannical government."
-- Congressman Ron Paul, June 26, 2006

"To disarm the people is the most effective way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"The principle of self-defense, even involving weapons and bloodshed, has never been condemned, even by Gandhi..."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr

a-human-right.com

[perception5]

Did everyone notice how CBS (Censoring Broadcasting Station) shut down the "comments" section on their website the other day until they cycled through the story about Dan Rather suing them?

How do you liberals like America%u2019s "free left-wing press" now?

Does it feel like Germany 1938 to anyone else?

[briannorwood]

When Giuliani uses the word "clarify", you can simply substitute it with "flip-flop" and get the same meaning.

His explanation will probably go something like this...

"I used to be against guns. But when the terrorist''s struck us on 9/11, I realized how important it is for every American to carry a fully automatic machine gun. And under my administration, I will provide tax cuts to help lower income americans purchase their very own M16."

[afmca]

First Giuliani will bend down and kiss the arse of the NRA and say he was misquoted. Maybe he will then pick up a semi-automatic and spray the crowd to show his solidarity. If he had some gonads he would tell them the truth ...

The NRA used to be a great organization .. supporting the hunter, sport, etc. They saw the demographics showing hunting was declining and decided the only way to remain viable was to become the front organization for the gun manufacturers of the world. The U.S. is the only non-third world country without restrictive gun laws. They needed to keep the profit spigot open and American law makers are the easiest to bribe. Now no gun law, no matter how sensible, is fought. The NRA fronts for an arms industry that freely puts guns on inter-city streets that kill police and innocent citizens so fear sends suburbia to gun shops for the expensive stuff. I have no issue with appropriate guns for hunting, sport, and self-protection, but through the NRA sensible left the arena long ago.

[gkc99]

Frooty Rudy--flip, flop, flip, flop.

[keithle1]

There are 9 guns for every 10 people in the USA,
with about 270 million firearms in circulation.

(Source: the annual Small Arms Survey by the Graduate
Institute of International Studies in Geneva.)

[bobgee_1999]

I''m a gun owner, too, though I don''t see that it''s anything to "proud" of. Of course most people accuse me of being a "liberal." But I''m neither liberal nor conservative; I''m a thinking individual.

[kansas1946]

I''''m a proud gun-owning American, but I hate the NRA too, because they''''ve done more to HARM the rights of gun owners with some of their ignorant stands and statements then they''''ve helped. If our guns are ever taken away from us (and good luck trying to take mine) then it''''ll be because of the lunatics in the NRA, not in spite of them.
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Exactly. It is those riduculous,inflamatory statements that lose them credibility. I think every responsible person should have a gun. I have no problem with some restrictions though, if for nothing else, just some safety concerns.
When I was a kid, almost everyone in our town had some sort of gun, shotgun, rifle, hand guns, I don''t remember anyone ever shooting anyone. But not many houses got broken into either.

[samthetvcat]

People are tired of Giuliani talking out of both sides of his mouth - he tried to package himself with that ''morality'' platform against Hillary''s refusal to denounce the moveon.org ad but then didn''t attend the neocon ''values voter'' debate and his support went down 5% in one week. Now he''s trying to tell the NRA that he''s pro-gun even though he''s been a staunch supporter of gun control? Isn''t that kind of insulting to people, like he thinks he can make them believe whatever he wants them to believe and they''re not going to see through all the bs? Not cool . . .

[homespunlady]

I dare Guliani to go "hunting" With the VP. It might narrow the Republican field a bit.

[micma-2009]

Watch Giuliani do the the flip flop cha cha!

[sgtrds]

He''s going to "clarify" his position on the NRA, just enough to try to get their votes, just like Romney did when he lied that he was a regular hunter. Though that''s not a surprise. I was growing up in Michigan when Romney''s dad was Governor and he was a lying piece of garbage too. I''m a proud gun-owning American, but I hate the NRA too, because they''ve done more to HARM the rights of gun owners with some of their ignorant stands and statements then they''ve helped. If our guns are ever taken away from us (and good luck trying to take mine) then it''ll be because of the lunatics in the NRA, not in spite of them.

[glossypan]

What a great tradition, Republican candidates gathering to swear fealty to the hot button issues. The NRA will give em a big kiss on the lips. But what will happen at the Revival Tent? Will the brethren insist on a little personal morality or will the threat of illegal immigrant Democrats running wild in the streets, shooting dope and forcing women to have abortions, be enough reason for fudamentalists to put their Xes by the R? Stay tuned.

[cfin5]

His voting record is "clarification" enough. Or is this just a regular "re-clarification" for election propaganda purposes?......(gunowners.org)

[starleo146]

You know this flip flopper is something and someone needs to wipe that smile off his face. We will in Nov.

[sftodd]

I pray to God he wears his prettiest dress for this political tap dance! Please Rudy, we need more entertainment from your moronic party!!!

[socrates392]

flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop

flip-flop!

[kansas1946]

In 1994, the group criticized Giuliani%u2019s significant role in the enactment of major federal anti-crime legislation -- for which Giuliani was thanked by President Bill Clinton -- which made it harder for felons to purchase firearms
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I think the NRA does about as much good for the Republican party as MoveOn.org does for the Democratic party. Especially after this last little bit of ugliness about General Petreus. That was dispicible, and no one, and I mean no one, dislikes Bush more than I do, or would like to see the troops out of Iraq yesterday, more than me.

But for the NRA to gripe about it being harder for felons to get guns is ludicrous. There are plenty of laws restricting law-abiding citizens, non-felons, in fact with records clean as a whistle, for getting, owning, and carrying guns.
Lets worry about those laws. I strongly support the 2nd amendment, but I think any reasonable and sane person wouldn''t give a crazed maniac with halucinations a gun.
Under Rudy''s watch, I am not sure about this, but I don''t think you protect yourself with anything in New York. I heard that mace and tazers were illegal. If that is true, then he needs to skip the NRA meeting and go to the meeting of the scaredy-cat''s of America meeting.