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Lawyers Pushing Electoral Vote Change Have Ties To GOP Donor Who Financed Attacks On Kerry
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- fredgrad2000,
This isn''t the most important news going on in the world right now but it is news in the sense that the public needs to know what''s going on.
This really isn''t on the same level as what Soros,Moveon, or any other group or individual is doing within the confines of the current rules.
This is an attempt to substitute one disproportionate system of representation for another. Doing away with the electoral vote and going by the popular vote would be great; you can''t get any more representative than that.
This would be even less representtive than the electoral college. The point of the electoral college is to give greater weight to the more populous states while still giving some of a vote to smaller states. What this would do is treat all Congressional districts equally without consideration for their proportion of the population(Bakersfield would equal LA).
It''s clearly not done in the spirit of democracy. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by realpatriot1 at 02:40 PM : Sep 04, 2007
it should have to be a change to the constitution of the usa or nothing.... - Reply to this comment
- CBS acts as if it should be news that backers of the Swift Boat 527 group in 2004 are backing this amendment in California; that''s no more news than the fact that Hollywood and foreigners like Soros are backing MoveOn.org and Media Matters and the Center for American Progress as well as backing the Democratic presidential candidates...all I can say to either of those "revelations" is DUHHHHHH!!!
Someone gets screwed if the electoral college stays for is abolished; right now, no one campaigns in CA, TX, NY, MA, GA; all states that we know who is going to win before the votes are even counted; under a popular vote system, those high population areas would be in play while no one would waste time campaigning in Iowa or West Virginia or New Mexico that are sparsely populated, but now are always "battleground" states. Obviously we know why the GOP are focusing on CA for this amendment; it makes sense; its not "evil" or "underhanded", its smart politics, just as it is for the Dems who are pushing this in NC! Personally, I think all states should be winner takes all or all states should be proportional; but if a state and its population vote for something like this because they want the candidates to actually have to care what they want, which right now, CA is taken for granted by the Dems and written off by the GOP in presidential politics, that''s their call...everyone knows the national motive, its not news. - Reply to this comment
- Lars008,
I didn''t like what the democrats were trying to do here in North Carolina, but how do the republicans propose challenging it while trying to do the same thing in California? Don''t they look enough like ***** already? If not, let them go for it!
We need to either do away with the electoral college altogether or not play games with it for purely partison advantage for either side. California went first and North Carolina follwed.
Others may follow too.
None of it will effect 2008 because if it goes through it will be tied up in court well past the vote, unless of course the republican campaign committee also known as the Supreme Court decides to throw out legal precedent again. - Reply to this comment
- the proposed changes are only for blue states...
the redstate republicans would not allow this type of vote in their states.
just another bush type of flim flam.
war, hate, arrogance, rednecks and white trash christians...
that''s the south for you, folks! - Reply to this comment
- Posted by parrot2 at 01:44 PM : Sep 04, 2007
see, the demonic-rats are only looking to change enough states to make the electorial college meaningless...
is this also unconstitutional??? it should be... - Reply to this comment
- Posted by parrot2 at 01:44 PM : Sep 04, 2007
had you read it, it says colorado and some other staes... without changing the constitution??? that is just wrong...
Other attempts to change the Electoral College system have failed, most of them aimed at amending the Constitution, a drawn-out process that requires approval by Congress and ratification by at least 38 states.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/pages/articles/myfoxcol_20070117.php
Apr 10th, 2007
Today, Maryland Governor Martin O''Malley signed the National Popular Vote bill. Maryland thus became the first state to pass the law that -- once passed by sufficient states -- will ensure that the presidency goes to the person who wins the most votes nationwide.
And in the last few days, the Hawaii legislature passed the National Popular Vote bill and sent it on to Governor Linda Lingle.
The National Popular Vote act is an interstate agreement that effectively change the system of picking the president. It''s an ingenious plan that doesn''t require a constitutional amendment -- instead, it would become effective once it becomes law in enough states equaling a majority of the Electoral College vote. Once it passes this threshold, the Electoral College becomes instantly irrelevant, replacing our presidential elections with a pure popular vote.
http://www.democrats.org/page/community/group/NationalPopularVoteReformtheElectoralCol - Reply to this comment
- "The push to alter the division of electoral votes in California "is nothing more than an attempt by right-wing Republicans to change the rules in ways that benefits them," said a spokesman for the state Democratic Party." WRONG, it makes every vote count equally.
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- dnc are like john adams and want to give the jihadist their lunch money hoping they will leave us alone....
gop are like thomas jefferson and want to spend their lunch money on weapons and go kick the jihadists in their arses.....
What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad
Thomas Jefferson knew about fascist nazi islam..... he killed plenty of them....
In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli''s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:
The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm
muslim justifies slavery and piracy%u2026
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?6bdec278-6a71-4436-bc4d-29d1c54b0ad7
MUSLIM PIRATES STRIKE AGAIN
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2005/06/muslim-pirates-strike-again.html - Reply to this comment
- Make sure the voters in Califorina know what these gopigs are up too.
These are people who are trying to control America for their own interests.
Same old dirty tricks. - Reply to this comment
Ex-NBA ref Tim Donaghy 
