Comments on: Bush Rejects Calls For Change On Iraq

Urges Congress To Delay Action Until Top General Issues September Report On Troop Surge

[abbe7]

"Why waste mental effort on whether Bushit is going to withdraw troops? He's not. The neocon strategy is a PERMANENT OCCUPATION of Iraq. They want to control the oil including that 100,000,000,000 barrels that just happened to turn up in western Iraq a few months ago.
Posted by gkc99 at 08:25 AM : Jul 11, 2007"

You could not be more right. For some strange reason, you need to read the foreign press to see articles like this one:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132569.ece

Changes for Iraq will only come after changes in White House.

[forthepeopl1]

I HOPE EVERY AMERICAN AND ALL OUR ELECTED ARE GOING TO READ THIS, AND SEE THAT THIS ADMINASTRATION JUST KEEPS LAUGHING IN OUR FACES.WHILE THOUSANDS OF OUR TROOPS STILL DIE.
Last December, when Bush rebuffed a bipartisan exit strategy presented by the Iraq Study Group, he said he would leave the decision to withdraw from Iraq to his successor.

That question is "not going to face this government," Bush said, chuckling slightly at a news conference with former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, "because we made up our mind. We've made that part clear. It'll face future governments. There will be future opportunities for people to say, 'Well, it's not worth it. Let's just retreat.' "

Since then, nearly 700 more American soldiers have died in a war that has now lasted more than four years, lost the lives of more than 3,600 U.S. troops, cost $10 billion a month -- and cost Republicans control of the House and Senate.

[formrusmcsgt]

Pres. Bush is saying "BACK OFF ON IRAQ" and "IN A WHILE". The only problem with waiting for Generals to tell us which way to go is that when the Generals don't say what he wants to hear, Pres. Bush keeps changing them! There were a lot of Generals prior to these saying get out of Iraq! So whatever, no further comments.
Posted by tbweb at 08:33 AM : Jul 11, 2007

So true, tbweb. Bush has shown on countless occasions that he wants no independent feedback, only opinions that validate his own skewed perspectives.

It's nothing but "my way or the highway" with this moron.

[tbweb]

Pres. Bush is saying "BACK OFF ON IRAQ" and "IN A WHILE". The only problem with waiting for Generals to tell us which way to go is that when the Generals don't say what he wants to hear, Pres. Bush keeps changing them! There were a lot of Generals prior to these saying get out of Iraq! So whatever, no further comments.

[formrusmcsgt]

Pelosi grow a pair of ovaries!
Posted by gkc99 at 08:25 AM : Jul 11, 2007

I am amazed at the prevalent ignorance of how impeachment works in this country.

Growing a pair of ovaries will not change the fact that there are only 51 Dems in the Senate (if you count Lieberman) while 66 votes are needed for a conviction.

[gkc99]

Why waste mental effort on whether Bushit is going to withdraw troops? He's not. The neocon strategy is a PERMANENT OCCUPATION of Iraq. They want to control the oil including that 100,000,000,000 barrels that just happened to turn up in western Iraq a few months ago. Permanent occupation can only be justified ("cover") if there is permanent instability. And, indeed, the Muslims make it easy to create that. Few Muslims are happy without blood on their hands.

For example, we can expect an increase in Turkish-Kurdish hostilities; increased support in military material from Iran; possible Syrian (read Saudi) support for Sunni "insugents", and the like.

Want withdrawal?--support impeachment!

Pelosi grow a pair of ovaries!

[realpatriot1]

IOWEIGN,

Don't mess with Texas! Yes, Bush is the total idiot that they allowed to be Governor & President, but your view of Eisenhower needs a little balance.

I'm not an Ike defender but he did end the Korean conflict and warned us about the military-industrial complex.

Ike's Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, and his brother who directed the CIA were the driving forces behind our involvement in Vietnam. They were from New York, so by your logic we should not elect Hillary, Rudi, or Bloomberg(which would be ok by me).

[formrusmcsgt]

For those who contend that this losing strategy (fighting guerillas with a standing army) will prevail someday in Iraq or Afghanistan, take a look at how successful the Phillipines has been with it after 40 years (and on their own ground mind you):

MANILA, Philippines (AP) -- Philippine troops recovered the bodies of 14 marines, some of them beheaded, after clashing with Muslim insurgents while searching for a kidnapped Italian priest, a marine spokesman said Wednesday.

[prinzowhales]

The Decider has decided...'No change till fall.' We can expect the next big false flag terror attack this summer--either on a civilians target or on one of our military vessels in the Gulf to 'legitimize' a new war against Iran.

And...Praise be to Human Stupidity!...there are variables a-plenty that could alter the Middle Eastern landscape...a prospective Turkish invasion of Iraq...a prospective Israeli invasion of Syria or re-re-invasion of Lebanon, which we will learn more enough if Assad does go meet Olmert in Jerusalem...and, an Iranian military response to an al Qaeda (read al CIA-da) outrage from across the border in Iraq which percipitates an American response...and you know how these things end...the new war 'just happened and things got out of control' blahblahblah...and the ever present threat that the Israeli client will simply start hostilities and America--who, of course, would know of and support the attack--would have its Gulf assets hit in response...

...Lots of 'Back to School' fun to look forward to...don't rule out an American Beslan...US Intelligence still has thousands of assets from the Middle East in America--and a bumper crop of ARTICHOKE could be on the school menu.

[antoniof123]

By September when the death toll gets to be close or over 4,000 dead the GOP will be willing to impeach and remove not only *** and George but also all of his appointees at the same time. This is the worst thing to happen to this country in its history I think even worst then than the civil war becasue we are being destroyed from within by an idiot. 2008 Will be a blood bath for the Republican party then the Dems will have the votes to remvove all this man has done to the this country so if you want things the way they were be for the chimp vote against the whole party.

[ioweign]

Actually, the American people should NEVER NEVER EVER vote for a president from Texas, ever again!

Johnson, and Bush (Jr.), both start wars based on false pretenses, and gets us involved in a lengthy war with thousands of American soldiers dead in the process.

NO MORE COWBOYS IN WASHINGTON D.C. (unless they're part of a rodeo show)! THEY'VE ONLY DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY CAN MANAGE FARM ANIMALS EFFECTIVELY... NOT PEOPLE!
Posted by acauble1 at 02:50 AM : Jul 11, 2007

Don't forget Ike - Denison,TX
US Army advisors into Vietnam 1958!

[bluestardad]

IRAQI CONGRESS GOES INTO A MONTH RECESS DURIN AUGUST! THIS IS JULY FOR YOU KOOL AID DRINKING BUSHITS!

HERE IS A GENERALS ASSESMENT FOR YOU DUEL PASSPORT HOLDING PIMPS!

I would love to see the AIPAC powered dead-brains at the Weekly Standard address this analysis:

"Gen. William Odom discusses the %u201Cworst strategic disaster in American history,%u201D the war in Iraq: the view of most generals that the war is wrong, the failure of the politicians to see the consequences of their actions, the centrality of the neoconservatives and the Israel lobby in pushing for the Iraq invasion, the %u201Csurge,%u201D

www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/05
/10/gen-william-odom
Posted by FeelFree1 at 04:50 PM : May 11, 2007


GENERALS DID NOT COME UP WITH THE SURGE PLAN THE AEI DID! ITS A PRO-ISRAELI THINK TANK IN WASHINGTON!

Contact Information Reuel Marc Gerecht

American Enterprise Institute
1150 Seventeenth Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20036
Assistant: 202-862-5926
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Why not send this chickenhawk an email? Tell him how impressed we all are by his "analysis".

This is a guy who worships Kristol, Perle, Wolfowitz, et al. the neocons who contributed to this Bushit War.

Israeli supporters Masquerading as Americans!

CONTACT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL and CONFRONT them http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ REALY DO SOMETHING TO SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

[smirk5]

The hardest part for me when I watch Bush anymore is his pure cowardice. He has to have a handpicked "townhall" audience to continue to push his failed war to. What a p*ssy.

Hey lars008, is this you?

http://profielen1.****.nl/show.php?nick=lars008

No wonder you don't like Muslims - they wouldn't touch you with a ten foot pole.

[neoconrcrazy]

ignore the posts of lars008 completely, as I would the ravings of a homeless drunk lying on the sidewalk.
Posted by Iceman_1960


no iceman, you're right to denounce them and show everyone here how trolls like him attempt to distort the truth for their own evil agendas-

like bush & his neocon henchmen.

they all must de denounced and exposed !

[neoconrcrazy]

Well, another chance for bushit to own up to his monumental mistake and change direction for the benefit of our troops and millions of iraqis -

but no - the political (civilian) decision whether to continue war on these terms has been pushed on to the military - a sidestep.

this is the worst of the worst, the baddest of the bad, the stupidest of the stupid -

George Walker Bush IV, the embarrasment of America, a dangerous Richie Rich in the White House.

[smirk5]

"That's what the American people expect. They expect for military people to come back and tell us how the military operations are going," Bush said. "And that's the way I'm going to play it as commander in chief."
Bush Jr.

This is why Bush should be forcibly removed from office. This is either a purposeful distortion from the President concerning the wishes of the American people concerning a war or it shows we're being led by someone who is clinically delusional.
Either way, he should be shown the door.
The majority of the American People want withdrawal from this war and think the war was a mistake to begin with. Americans should fairly "expect" the President to respect the will of the people especially when it comes to war. Otherwise, our democracy is a joke.

[iceman_1960]

"That's what the American people expect. They expect for military people to come back and tell us how the military operations are going," Mr. Bush said.

Very arrogant of Dubya to lecture us about the opinions of the American people, when all pollsters, including the Conservative Republican Rasmussen, give him a very bad report on this war:

"Still, just 52% OF REPUBLICANS are willing to give their party leader good or excellent ratings when it comes to Iraq. Only 8% of Democrats offer such a positive assessment while 76% of Democrats say the President is doing a poor job.

Twenty-five percent (25%) expect things to get better in Iraq over the next six months while 48% think it will get worse. Even Republicans are growing more pessimistic - just 46% of those in the President%u2019s party expect things to get better."

Source:

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/war_on_terror_update

[watcher269-2009]

Did you read about the New Terror Attack warnings for the Summer? Wow - That always seems to happen when Bush is in a bind.

[iceman_1960]

RE: Post by Iceman_1960 at 04:00 AM : Jul 11, 2007

This is the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998"

lars008 obviously read only the title of the Act, not what it actually says, and leaped to the joyous conclusion that the Clinton administration and Congress were planning a land invasion.

After this, I may follow the example of wiser posters here, and ignore the posts of lars008 completely, as I would the ravings of a homeless drunk lying on the sidewalk.