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by tejasdemo July 2, 2007 5:25 PM EDT
"Free" medicine means HUGE taxes to those of us who earn a living. Maybe in Tejas, they can tax the illegals for their fair share.
Posted by mbcsmith at 01:58 PM : Jul 02, 2007

It should mean huge taxes for those who have been not paying their fair share....like the top 1% and you know what ? I could careless. Taxes are supposed to pay for something other than subsidzing the next golf course or making sure that a company like Enron doesnt have to pay for property taxes.
As for illegals ? Yep, we have more than our fair share and I agree with you...they can and should kick in too.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 5:15 PM EDT
The End

The challenge then will be to get the rest of the party to overcome its nervelessness on health care. The ringleaders of today's effort admit they may have to do a Sen. Phil Gramm, who in 1993 led by example, singlehandedly tearing into HillaryCare, proving his position a winner with voters, and pulling his colleagues in line. They'll need to roll up their sleeves. Most Republicans don't understand health care, so don't want to talk about it; many grimace at voting down money for "kids"; quite a few face tough elections and would rather not jump into an unknown debate. Reformers also aren't getting cover from should-be allies. Insurers and lobby groups like PHRMA--who ought to understand that a bigger Schip is a threat to their long-term business--are instead focused on short-term profits and PR images. Republican governors--who'd be huge beneficiaries of an individualized market--seem to only care about keeping federal dollars flowing into state coffers.

Democrats will hail a Schip victory as an example of how they can help Americans on their top concern of health care. They want to ride it to the White House and to bigger congressional majorities, making it that much easier to institute incremental national health care.

I'd rather be in charge of my own health care and one that I can take with me when I leave my place of employment. A good example of socialized medicine are our VA Hospitals.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 5:12 PM EDT
Part IV

The good news is that after 10 years of tinkering, Republicans have laid the foundation for bigger reform, from Health Savings Accounts to tort liability reform. The more intense policy debate this week instead focused on the biggie: how to revamp the tax code to get that money to individuals. On one side are tax wonks, among them Sen. Jon Kyl, who prefer giving every American a tax deduction--as President Bush has advocated. They argue it does the least damage to the tax code, and is less of a handout. On the other side are health-care wonks, among them Sen. Coburn, who prefer a refundable tax credit. They argue it does more to help with the uninsured, and is coincidentally a better political sell.

By the end of this week, the architects were coalescing around a tax-credit approach, on the belief it will attract the most GOP support. In a signal of White House approval, President Bush deliberately noted in his speech Wednesday that a tax credit would have a "similar outcome" to his deduction plan, and that he was "open to further discussion." Word was that Republican leaders were also climbing on board, with all concerned hoping to debut something big in coming weeks.
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by lars008-2009 July 2, 2007 5:10 PM EDT
non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the terrorslam imperialism empire of the darkside...

FASCIST NAZI ISLAM TO ENSLAVE NON MUSLIM WORLD

HAMAS MICKEY MOUSE SAYS
Islamic rule will benefit Christians and Jews
by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook - May 14, 2007
The force behind Hamas TV%u2019s controversial Mickey Mouse clone said today that his children%u2019s television program will continue to promote worldwide Islamic supremacy, for everyone's benefit, including Christians and Jews.

In a long interview on Hamas TV, Hazim Al-Sha%u2019arawi, Deputy Director of Al-Aqsa TV and one of the creators of the Hamas children%u2019s TV show Tomorrow%u2019s Pioneers, said that using the program to promote Islamic rule over other religions is actually promoting %u201Cjustice, goodness and world love.%u201D

Al-Aqsa TV and the Palestinian Authority have been under fire since PMW reported last week that Tomorrow%u2019s Pioneers was using a character named Farfur, a knockoff of Disney%u2019s Mickey Mouse character, to convey messages about Islamic supremacy as well as hatred of Jews, Israel and the U.S. Despite public statements by PA Minister of Information Mustafa Barghouti that the show would be taken off the air until it could be reviewed and revised, a new episode of the program %u2013 featuring Al-Sha%u2019arawi as one of the hosts %u2013 ran Friday.
http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_may2007.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S995NCeaUg
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 5:08 PM EDT
Part III

Republicans beat back the original HillaryCare by warning about Canadian waiting lines, but a negative message alone won't do this time. Our third-party-payer system, while still stacks better than France, is nonetheless collapsing--and Americans know it. Republicans can't simply be against socialized care, while not being for anything else. The left also chose its first battle wisely, with a program for "the children." The GOP's only Schip response so far has been to grouse about cost. And it's realizing a message of "We're for the children, just not as much as them," isn't a political winner.

This week's backroom talks--led by health-care innovators Tom Coburn and Jim DeMint in the Senate, and Paul Ryan and Jim McCrery in the House--were therefore about getting beyond Schip. The goal: a system that eliminates today's corporate subsidy and gives the money to individuals, cutting costs and reducing the number of uninsured. The political message: Dems want to put a few million more under government control for $60 billion, Republicans want to put 300 million in charge of their own care at zero extra cost.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 5:04 PM EDT
***Part*** ***II***

***Next***: ***Even*** ***as*** ***Democrats*** ***work*** ***to*** ***expand*** ***Schip*** ***to*** ***cover*** ***older*** ***Americans***, ***they***'***d*** ***expand*** ***Medicare*** ***to*** ***cover*** ***younger*** ***Americans***. ***House*** ***Energy*** ***and*** ***Commerce*** ***Committee*** ***Chairman*** ***John*** ***Dingell*** ***is*** ***said*** ***to*** ***have*** ***recently*** ***floated*** ***the*** ***idea*** ***of*** ***allowing*** ***the*** ***struggling*** ***Big*** ***Three*** ***auto*** ***makers*** ***to*** ***enroll*** ***workers*** ***in*** ***Medicare*** ***at*** ***the*** ***age*** ***of*** ***55***, ***or*** ***10*** ***years*** ***early***. ***Consider*** ***this*** ***a*** ***pilot*** ***program*** ***for*** ***dropping*** ***Medicare***'***s*** ***age*** ***limit*** ***overall*** ***and*** ***instantly*** ***subjecting*** ***tens*** ***of*** ***millions*** ***more*** ***Baby*** ***Boomers*** ***to*** ***the*** ***government***'***s*** ***tender*** ***care***.

***Democrats*** ***will*** ***meanwhile*** ***argue*** ***the*** ***only*** ***way*** ***to*** ***pay*** ***for*** ***Schip*** ***and*** ***other*** ***expanded*** ***programs*** ***is*** ***to*** ***gut*** ***Medicare*** ***Advantage*** ***and*** ***similar*** ***free***-***market*** ***reforms***. ***See*** ***how*** ***clever***? ***Swallow*** ***up*** ***ever*** ***more*** ***Americans*** ***into*** ***federal*** ***programs***, ***banish*** ***any*** ***last*** ***vestiges*** ***of*** ***popular*** ***market*** ***plans***, ***and*** ***voil***`! ***It*** ***is*** ***Hillarycare***! ***Only*** ***nobody*** ***ever*** ***had*** ***to*** ***use*** ***the*** ***dreaded*** ***word***!
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 5:00 PM EDT
Part I

The left still bears the wounds of HillaryCare, and knows that even with spiraling health-care costs, the nation still has little appetite for an abrupt shift to all-government care. So they've developed a craftier approach, one that takes longer but gets them to the same end. The new plot is to enact national health care one citizen at a time, slowly expanding the reach of existing government programs until they encompass the population.

Schip is the first step. The program, with its $25 billion budget, was originally designed to provide insurance to only the poorest children. Democrats want to throw an additional $60 billion at it, expanding Schip's rolls by three million. They would expand eligibility so much that as many as half joining would drop private insurance to do so. Even adults could sign up.
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by mbcsmith July 2, 2007 4:58 PM EDT
Yea, who wants free medicine ! Lol.
Posted by tejasdemo at 01:12 PM : Jul 02, 2007

"Free" medicine means HUGE taxes to those of us who earn a living. Maybe in Tejas, they can tax the illegals for their fair share.
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by mbcsmith July 2, 2007 4:58 PM EDT
Yea, who wants free medicine ! Lol.
Posted by tejasdemo at 01:12 PM : Jul 02, 2007

"Free" medicine means HUGE taxes to those of us who earn a living. Maybe in Tejas, they can tax the illegals for their fair share.
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by tejasdemo July 2, 2007 4:49 PM EDT
***Do*** ***you*** ***remember*** ***the*** ***summer*** ***of*** ***2003*** ***in*** ***France*** ***when*** ***it*** ***was*** ***so*** ***hot*** ***people*** ***were*** ***dropping*** ***like*** ***flies***. ***Well***, ***13***,***000*** ***people*** ***died***. ***Why***. ***Because*** ***their*** ***system*** ***of*** ***socialized*** ***medicine*** ***or*** ***free*** ***medicine*** ***as*** ***you*** ***put*** ***it*** ***couldn***'***t*** ***acommodate*** ***them***, ***so*** ***they*** ***told*** ***their*** ***population*** ***to*** ***fend*** ***for*** ***themselves*** ***to*** ***the*** ***tune*** ***of*** ***13***,***000*** ***deaths***. ***Nothing*** ***is*** ***free***.
***Posted*** ***by*** ***mudrose*** ***at*** ***01***:***45*** ***PM*** : ***Jul*** ***02***, ***2007***

***Ok***, ***but*** ***we*** ***are*** ***not*** ***France***, ***are*** ***we*** ? ***We*** ***are*** ***supposed*** ***to*** ***be*** ***doing*** ***it*** ***better*** ***than*** ***the*** ***other*** ***guys***. ***I*** ***think*** ***we*** ***can*** ***figure*** ***it*** ***out*** ***especially*** ***with*** ***big*** ***brained*** ***folks*** ***like*** ***yourself*** ***to*** ***help*** ***us*** ***poor*** '***ol*** ***liberals*** ***out***.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 4:45 PM EDT
Yea, who wants free medicine ! Lol.
Posted by tejasdemo

Do you remember the summer of 2003 in France when it was so hot people were dropping like flies. Well, 13,000 people died. Why. Because their system of socialized medicine or free medicine as you put it couldn't acommodate them, so they told their population to fend for themselves to the tune of 13,000 deaths. Nothing is free.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 4:35 PM EDT
Just ignore "mudrose" his responses are not worthy of any attention. He has a big chip on his shoulder and really needs to deal with it.
Posted by j4401

I have a chip on my shoulder? Really! Well, look at the high and mighty statement you just made. What a pimp. Do as I say, and just ignore anyone who doesn't agree with us. Hahahaha.






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by j4401 July 2, 2007 4:20 PM EDT
Just ignore "mudrose" his responses are not worthy of any attention. He has a big chip on his shoulder and really needs to deal with it.
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by tejasdemo July 2, 2007 4:12 PM EDT
Why would you tie Gulf Coast recovery to the Iraq spending bill and consider that an achievement? Funding a health insurance program for low income children is just the beginning of socialized medicine. Once they open up this avenue, they can eventually push their socialized medicine onto the country. Sly, aren't they?
Posted by mudrose at 01:03 PM : Jul 02, 2007


Yea, who wants free medicine ! Lol.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 4:03 PM EDT
"Reid listed items on his party's agenda that have been able to move forward, like funding Gulf Coast recovery as part of the Iraq spending bill. He also noted successful efforts to raise the minimum wage, provide disaster relief for farmers and fund a health insurance program for low-income children."


Democrats have done more to help those in need in the last 6 months than Republicans have done in the last 6 years. Amd I hope and pray they can get this war ended asap. The Republicans are the ones holding this up but they are starting to come around. You can not deny the will of 75% of the American people for much longer.
Posted by tejasdemo

Why would you tie Gulf Coast recovery to the Iraq spending bill and consider that an achievement? Funding a health insurance program for low income children is just the beginning of socialized medicine. Once they open up this avenue, they can eventually push their socialized medicine onto the country. Sly, aren't they?
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by tejasdemo July 2, 2007 3:47 PM EDT
"Reid listed items on his party's agenda that have been able to move forward, like funding Gulf Coast recovery as part of the Iraq spending bill. He also noted successful efforts to raise the minimum wage, provide disaster relief for farmers and fund a health insurance program for low-income children."


Democrats have done more to help those in need in the last 6 months than Republicans have done in the last 6 years. Amd I hope and pray they can get this war ended asap. The Republicans are the ones holding this up but they are starting to come around. You can not deny the will of 75% of the American people for much longer.
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 3:46 PM EDT
Fu*ck you mr bush, fu*ck you very much.....
When do your kids go on patrol in baghdad?
Posted by Yukinfahoo

When you do.
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by July 2, 2007 3:42 PM EDT
Fu*ck you mr bush, fu*ck you very much.....
When do your kids go on patrol in baghdad?
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by mudrose-2009 July 2, 2007 3:34 PM EDT
mudrose,

you fought in a war, my ***. Nice try though. The only thing you have fought over is who gets the last lemonade. Lol
Posted by tejasdemo

No, don't think so. But since you brought it up I suppose that was your speciality. Seiging it and heiling up to the islamofacists. I didn't know they liked lemonade.
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by tejasdemo July 2, 2007 3:31 PM EDT
mudrose,

you fought in a war, my ***. Nice try though. The only thing you have fought over is who gets the last lemonade. Lol
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