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by infidel_us June 29, 2007 1:29 PM EDT
Prinzowhales,

Like I said....so much resentment lies beneath the facade. And no one contributess to the dialog....the democrat candidates only fan the flames or racial strife for political gain.

If they only realized the damage they are doing. Too selfish to see it, I guess.
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by infidel_us June 29, 2007 1:25 PM EDT
In his defense, at least Rudy didn't sitck a wad of chew in his mouth and pretend he had a southern drawal.
Posted by infidel_us at 10:20 AM : Jun 29, 2007

Oh, and he didn't quote from negro spirituals in a fake black accent......like he was part of the struggle or something. That is race baiting and pandering to a nauseating degree. Even below a democrat's dignity! :)
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by prinzowhales June 29, 2007 1:25 PM EDT
It is telling..."a frowning Sharpton"...the Establishment's race-baiting clown...the buffoon who showed up in Durham North Carolina to inflame an already tense situation arising from the lies of a stripper...the lies that she was raped by the Duke Lacrosse team...tests showed that she had intercourse that night with just about everyone else in Durham BUT those young men.

Devil take Sharpton's smiling face, the plagirist Biden, 'Cattle Futures Payola' Clinton, 'Blast Iran for Israel' Obama, New World Order Richardson, "My Daddy had to Work" Edwards.

Now, how much discussion was there about gunning down of black children in Los Angeles by Latinos who vow to drive blacks and whites from the city? See LA's radio host, Terry Anderson for the details on what is really going on in the 'Other America' that tea-sipping Establishment types like to chat about from the perspective of Park Avenue.
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by infidel_us June 29, 2007 1:20 PM EDT
He should just go fawn over his own candidates, they apparently have no flaws.
Posted by realpatriot1 at 10:08 AM : Jun 29, 2007

I have "fawned" over them......I don't see ONE worth my vote. Some are higher on the food chain than others, but Rudy G is NOT one of them. Neither is McCain.

In his defense, at least Rudy didn't sitck a wad of chew in his mouth and pretend he had a southern drawal.
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by realpatriot1 June 29, 2007 1:17 PM EDT
throwdown78,

Excellent post! It's rare that anyone of these candidates(or anyone on this blog,for that matter) talks about the future and where we go from here.

So far, all these candidates are doing nothing more than pandering to their base to raise funds and staff their campaigns with activists, and occasionally holding a photo opp to show that they care, but forget specifics.

That's why i'm not supporting or eliminating anyone yet(on the democratic side that is).
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by infidel_us June 29, 2007 1:08 PM EDT
throwdown78,

So true. There is SO MUCH involving race that goes unsaid. So much resentment and mistrust running below the facade of "can't we all just get along" and political correctness.

A real cards on the table, honest dialog is needed, and we will never have it. No candidate, republican or democrat, has the stones to bring it up.

We're a lot like an egg left in the sun. Looks great on the outside, but stinks like a mo-fo on the inside! :)
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by realpatriot1 June 29, 2007 1:08 PM EDT
huskerarmy,

Infidel is milking the fact that when Hillary went to Alabama to attend the commemoration of the Selma March she pandered to the crowd by effecting a phony southern accent. It was pretty crass and showed her general pandering nature but was no worse than Guliani pandering to the Confederate flag wavers in South Carolina(a divisive issue that the state had recently reached a compromise on).

He should just go fawn over his own candidates, they apparently have no flaws.
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by gunownerdan June 29, 2007 1:03 PM EDT
Will Americans be dumb enough to let the Bush/Clinton crime families buy their votes once again????
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by infidel_us June 29, 2007 1:03 PM EDT
Or is that really just you?
Posted by huskerarmy at 09:11 AM : Jun 29, 2007

In all honesty, I really can't remember. It's probably "tha." Given the poor fidelity of the video at the time, it sounds to my ear like "da"....but it's probably just me being prejudiced. :)
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by jack3213 June 29, 2007 12:59 PM EDT
For one, are we going to remember the specifics of this debate six months from now? If we do, we should be impressed with ourselves. For two, the fact that the audience was primarily black and the topic of AIDS was a prominant subject strikes me a bit curious: Is Clinton saying that if it were young women with aids they would be noticed more? What a cheap shot. Do remember, folks, she voted for the immigration bill. Tell your friends. PS. I am strong believer that if Fred Thomson officially runs, he will win.
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by throwdown78 June 29, 2007 12:57 PM EDT
As a member of the Black community I am infuriated by Hillary%u2019s constant pandering to minority groups. Last week in D.C she was kissing up to Hispanics using the immigration bill as her peace offering. Earlier this year she was in a Carolina church preaching to a Black congregation about the struggles in the Black community. When will this woman realize she is not her husband? The Black community is not going to put her on a pedestal just because her last name is Clinton. To all the candidates trying to win the Black vote, including Barack Obama; just tell us what you have done to help the Black community. Don%u2019t compliment us on being %u201Cclean cut%u201D or remind us of the press conference you help in the lower 9th ward after Hurricane Katrina. List the facts; tell us what you have done, give us your plan for the future and how all of us as American can get there. Because the 9th ward has not changed since your press conference ended Mr. Edwards.
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by funkiwiteboy June 29, 2007 12:56 PM EDT
i wish colin powell were runnin
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by lawandorder7 June 29, 2007 12:53 PM EDT
I hope Hillary wins. If Obama wins, all of you who vote for him, make sure you live with your vote and go down with the rest of us. It will be a sad day in the US and we will go down, real fast.
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by funkiwiteboy June 29, 2007 12:53 PM EDT
i've got a horrible hangover but i still think hillery is married to a lieing pervert how many lives have they ruined by their abuse of intrusted power. like 50 have died of questionable causes
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by texas468 June 29, 2007 12:42 PM EDT
Or without them saying, "You know I love you, but....."
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by heyswids June 29, 2007 12:41 PM EDT
i would like to see a debate where the moderator FORCED (by keeping on question) the candidate to answer the question at hand; without all the other BS
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by pepperp1 June 29, 2007 12:41 PM EDT
Funny I am the opposite, the more I see of Obama the less impressed I am he dose not have the presence in a crowd, and the more I see of Hillary the better she is looking screams competent. Edwards is a pass, same Richardson, not sure on my views about Dodd or Biden but cabinet positions may be plausible for them. On the Repug side a total pass no one looking good there. Bloomberg may be an interesting candidate. Glad it is a long way off.

And oh by the way, what politician does not pander, I haven't seen one, but she does have just the right position on most things I agree.


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by gunownerdan June 29, 2007 12:37 PM EDT
Ron Paul is the only candidate I've seen so far who would actually obey the presidential oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution.
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by keeblers69 June 29, 2007 12:31 PM EDT
Has anyone really seen a good presidential candidate out of all these flakes? I haven't seen any yet.
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by briannorwood June 29, 2007 12:26 PM EDT
Each time I see Barack Obama, I come away more impressed.

Hillary always seems to me to be a panderer.
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