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- That%u2019s one huge contradiction and if you could care a less when I disagree with you, why do you take time to tell me.
Posted by menofoz at 01:22 AM : Jun 24, 2007
You ask me questions. I respond. It's not a contradiction. It's called being polite. I am a very polite person for the most part. - Reply to this comment
- I know I brought up immigration on this board but I didn't tell anyone to post only to the topic you did.
Posted by menofoz at 01:18 AM : Jun 24, 2007
I did? I don't see any post where I tried to tell anyone that they have to post about the topic of this thread, only pointed out that you were not? I wouldn't presume to tell people how they have to post anymore then I would tell them that if they hate Bush for most things then they're required by some unseen magic law to disagree with him on everything. That would seem to be your job or at least it's one you've taken upon yourself. though I have no idea why you make such a silly stand on such a ridiculous theory. - Reply to this comment
- How can you tell if Cheney or Bush are lying??? They open their mouth and start talking. If Cheney has nothing to hide, what's the big deal.
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- Oh and stating my positions confidently is not expecting people to roll over and agree with me. Personally I don't care of they do, though it's nice when it happens. My opinion is mine and I state it proudly. You know the funny thing is that I actually agree with you on some of your war positions, but I could care less about the times you disagree with me. That's not my concern.
Posted by RandalDS
That%u2019s one huge contradiction and if you could care a less when I disagree with you, why do you take time to tell me. - Reply to this comment
- If you read back you'll see that you were the one to bring up immigration in this thread. Also I post my menu of things I like to cook because I was asked by friends here what I was making since they know I love to cook. I'm sorry you have no friends to ask you things or to care about your personal feelings. Must be a real shame...
Posted by RandalDS
I know I brought up immigration on this board but I didn't tell anyone to post only to the topic you did. And I didn%u2019t come to this board to make friends but you have now clue about some things. I have a few friends and hundreds of acquaintances. As I said when you follow your own advice then if you want go ahead and dictate as you will but until then forget it. - Reply to this comment
- Oh and stating my positions confidently is not expecting people to roll over and agree with me. Personally I don't care of they do, though it's nice when it happens. My opinion is mine and I state it proudly. You know the funny thing is that I actually agree with you on some of your war positions, but I could care less about the times you disagree with me. That's not my concern.
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- But I already have backed it up with solid reasoning. My reasoning is that there is no humane way to deport that many undocumented workers that we actually need here anyway, so amnesty is the best answer. There you have it.
But again, this is not the thread for this. Also when I take shots at Bush they're from the bottom of my heart and my right to take as an American and as a poster here. I say nothing worse about him then many others here and it's not your place to tell me what I can or can not post or what does or does not meet your specifications of what a good post is. Yours of course are no good example of posting to begin with, so you have no room to criticize mine. - Reply to this comment
- There is no logic to your conclusion. How am I a fraud? I have never said anything fraudulent. I have never contradicted myself or my position. You have no basis to use the word fraud. So you are wrong. It is not fraudulent to say I hate Bush's guts, but that I agree with him on one issue. In fact it makes sense that out of all of the possible positions on all of the possible issues we are bound by the sheer law of averages to agree on some things. In fact I'd say it would be unheard of not to agree with another person on at least one thing, even if you disagree on just about everything else. Seems impossible to me.
Posted by RandalDS
I don%u2019t think bloating about how you hate the President is something people on this board need to hear I would advise you to keep that to yourself. For some reason you, act as though your position on this issue is a slam-dunk and others should roll over. If you don%u2019t like being called a fraud then that%u2019s your problem, it%u2019s not going to change what is already on record unless you want to back up your support for illegal immigration with solid reasoning. - Reply to this comment
- There you go, if you would only follow your own advice and post to the topic. Moreover, without resorting to telling people what your going to eat as well as not having discussion related to your own personal off topic *** on the boards then maybe you can instruct others.
Until then, **** off.
Posted by menofoz at 01:02 AM : Jun 24, 2007
If you read back you'll see that you were the one to bring up immigration in this thread. Also I post my menu of things I like to cook because I was asked by friends here what I was making since they know I love to cook. I'm sorry you have no friends to ask you things or to care about your personal feelings. Must be a real shame... - Reply to this comment
- It's fine to be against immigration. Many people are. However this is not the thread for that discussion. It is also ridiculuos though to say that because a person hates Bush's policies on just about everything that they are somehow required to hate his policy on absolutely everything. That's foolish and wrong. That's blindly following party or ideological loyalty over what you believe in your heart. I hate Bush on most of his policies, but you're full of sh*it if you think I'm a phony just because one of his policies happens to agree with mine.
Posted by RandalDS
There you go, if you would only follow your own advice and post to the topic. Moreover, without resorting to telling people what your going to eat as well as not having discussion related to your own personal off topic *** on the boards then maybe you can instruct others.
Until then, **** off. - Reply to this comment
- You%u2019re a fraud and I do give a dam, you%u2019re spinning of this issues is disgusting and please stop contradicting yourself.
Posted by menofoz at 12:54 AM : Jun 24, 2007
There is no logic to your conclusion. How am I a fraud? I have never said anything fraudulent. I have never contradicted myself or my position. You have no basis to use the word fraud. So you are wrong. It is not fraudulent to say I hate Bush's guts, but that I agree with him on one issue. In fact it makes sense that out of all of the possible positions on all of the possible issues we are bound by the sheer law of averages to agree on some things. In fact I'd say it would be unheard of not to agree with another person on at least one thing, even if you disagree on just about everything else. Seems impossible to me. - Reply to this comment
- I personally don't care what Bush's private motivations are for supporting an amnesty for the undocumented workers already here. The fact that I support the same thing doesn't mean I have to support it for his reasons either. I support it because I honestly believe it's the most sane and humane answer to the fact that they're here and they're not going away. I have no idea why Bush supports amnesty and quite frankly I don't give a dam*n.
Posted by RandalDS
You%u2019re a fraud and I do give a dam, you%u2019re spinning of this issues is disgusting and please stop contradicting yourself. - Reply to this comment
- Suddenly acting as though the Bush Admin is somehow looking out for the best interest of the majority of Americans as if the policies, legislation, bills and amendments supported by this President were intended to benefit most Americans is laughable.
Posted by menofoz at 12:30 AM : Jun 24, 2007
I personally don't care what Bush's private motivations are for supporting an amnesty for the undocumented workers already here. The fact that I support the same thing doesn't mean I have to support it for his reasons either. I support it because I honestly believe it's the most sane and humane answer to the fact that they're here and they're not going away. I have no idea why Bush supports amnesty and quite frankly I don't give a dam*n. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by menofoz at 12:28 AM : Jun 24, 2007
It's fine to be against immigration. Many people are. However this is not the thread for that discussion. It is also ridiculuos though to say that because a person hates Bush's policies on just about everything that they are somehow required to hate his policy on absolutely everything. That's foolish and wrong. That's blindly following party or ideological loyalty over what you believe in your heart. I hate Bush on most of his policies, but you're full of sh*it if you think I'm a phony just because one of his policies happens to agree with mine. - Reply to this comment
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Oh did I mention privately the pentagon big wigs want a new influx of potential pawns for the next military adventure for other countries oil to assist international banking, world finance and global control for elitists. Nothing wrong with that, some group of men has to control the world but when things go wrong all *** going to break loose and world war 3 is going to kill over 200 million people. Doesn%u2019t that sound great? - Reply to this comment
- It's not about Bush, it's about what's best for the country.
Posted by realpatriot
In my opinion, you%u2019re both frauds and your phony positions pretending to oppose G.W. at just about every level. Suddenly acting as though the Bush Admin is somehow looking out for the best interest of the majority of Americans as if the policies, legislation, bills and amendments supported by this President were intended to benefit most Americans is laughable. Now here%u2019s the President leading the charge to allow over 20 million people who came into the United States illegally to become US citizens. Theirs nothing in the bill that%u2019s going to improve the poor conditions in Mexico which has caused so many immigrants to leave there own country illegally, to enter the USA. - Reply to this comment
Big business supports the Bush Admin illegal immigration reform bill, those working to build the new super highway from the border at Mexico/Texas to the border at Minnesota/Canada approve. Lobbyist for multinational corporations promotes the bill; politicians in the pockets of constructions companies and the service industry push this bill. The automobile industry wants this bill to pass. The only ones opposed to illegal immigration are the majority of working Americans.
How both of you can ignore the alarming negative effects on working Americans wages the increase in crime and costs to US taxpayers for health care, the closing of hospitals and many other terrible consequences attributed to this mass migration is stunning. However, in retrospect the fact you%u2019re both frauds can be the only logical explanation for what you both post.
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- It's not about Bush, it's about what's best for the country.
Posted by realpatriot1 at 11:16 PM : Jun 23, 2007
Thanks. It gets sort of old when some people think that just because you hold the same position as someone on one issue, that it automatically agree with everything that they say and hate everything those opposed to them says. For instance I refer to myself as a liberal because I agree with MOST of the liberal positions, but I for instance disagree with the need for more gun control, so some liberals get on me about that and some conservatives start to think I'm one of them. I look at each issue and how it fits into America and my life and I make my judgement on that basis. Not on what people say I should. I think that the biggest problem facing America today is that everyone THINKS they're supposed to all march in lockstep with their party or the political philosophy they most associate themselves with, instead of thinking for themselves more. - Reply to this comment
- This corruption does not stop at Libby, Gonzo, or even Cheney. The rampant corruption endemic in this Administration radiates from the top, down, through-out this Administration.
Dubya chooses corrupt individuals for top posts because he believes they will do things his way, in a corrupt fashion if necessary, in order that his corrupt policies are enacted, come hell or high water.
Their consensus is that they will deal with the consequences later in a corrupt manner if necessary, if the need arises. - Reply to this comment
- IOWEIGN,
It's no secret what changed in 2003 that would cause Cheney to stop complying with the law.
That's when The White House released classifeid information in order to out the CIA's anti-WMD
network in order to stick it to one of its agents-Valarie Plame.
No sense in complying with the law if doing so would provide evidence for your own prosecution. - Reply to this comment
