Comments on: Most Couples OK Giving Embryos To Research

Infertility Patients With Unused Embryos Say They Would Give Them To Stem Cell Research

[realpatriot1]

The people being polled are the people whose bodies were used to create the embryos, the embryos are part of them.

How should they become more informed on the issue?

[pwrslm]

You seem to be saying that couples who can't conceive on their own without available medical assistance should just not have children because that would be playing God.

Would it be better if these children wern't born then? Did God not play a role in the discovery of the invitro process and in the ultimate success of that process? Is it playing God to offer other forms of medical assistance such as heart bypass surgery to save lives?

It's not about playing God, it's about playing human with God's assistance.
Posted by realpatriot1

There is your irrelevance RP.

Its a choice men have to make. God said thou shall not kill. He didnt make exceptions, life is life, no matter how young it is. An embryo is human, and it is alive.

Dont play twist Gods morality to fit the purpose, the truth is, research has proven that they can aquire the same stem cells without using embryo's.

If you want to cleave to a Gods assistance theme, then do so in context with Gods Commandments, thou shall not kill....we dont need to, that is all the help we need from God.

[pwrslm]

Guess what, they didn't even have to swear on the bible that they expressed their true feelings.

Following your line of thought, the 30- percent of people still thinking Bush is doing a good job are not fully informed either.
Posted by abbe7


Your right about the people expressing thier true feelings. The problem is, that in what context they describe thier true feeling is not verifiable by this story, so those feelings are irrelevant to the truth because they are 100% hidden.

Is this some kind of heroic attempt for you to demonstrate that you dont like Bush? Bush bashing is the only defense you have presented that has any relevance to the truth your trying to represent. I can compare your arguement to a bucket that your pouring water into, except the bottom of the bucket has a huge, huge hole in it.

So it doesnt matter how far from reality that you strike, your omissions demonstrate that the only thing your doing here is spreading gossip, rumor, and lies.

[realpatriot1]

pwrslm,

You keep saying that I'm making invalid points and that i'm ignoring others yet you never give examples of what you mean.

Tell me what you think is invalid and what you think I'm ignoring and I'll respond.

You're the one whose trying to avoid issues.

[abbe7]

"These "polls" they conduct dont really expose the feelings of the polled as much as you would think. To assume that the people whom are polled are fully informed, and answer in the context that the polsters format the results, is an illusion."

Guess what, they didn't even have to swear on the bible that they expressed their true feelings.

Following your line of thought, the 30- percent of people still thinking Bush is doing a good job are not fully informed either.

[abbe7]

"ITs people like you that end up confusing the real issue, making witless comments in a political context to cover up for your shallow thoughts.
Posted by pwrslm at 10:59 AM : Jun 21, 2007"

Unlike Queen Bush, I don't have any scandal to "cover up". This reminds me the Schiavo story ... all republicans trying to save Terri Schiavo when she was a vegetable but a little bit before, in another state, passing a bill to allow hospitals to unplug patients when the family couldn't pay anymore.
With Bush & co, issues like ethics, "protecting America", etc ... stop where money starts.

[pwrslm]

These "polls" they conduct dont really expose the feelings of the polled as much as you would think. To assume that the people whom are polled are fully informed, and answer in the context that the polsters format the results, is an illusion.

If this "poll" reported on is based on misrepresentation and material deceptions, you will never know, because they dont give you the whole truth that would demonstrate the candor in which the questions were asked.

[pwrslm]

Bush wants only to stop the "federally-funded" research, whose results would be public domain and would not allow his corporate friends to make the money they would get from our wallets.
Posted by abbe7

Thats a petty self serving statement, which ignores most of the real facts in the issue.

ITs people like you that end up confusing the real issue, making witless comments in a political context to cover up for your shallow thoughts.

[infidel_us]

This is a very misleading article! Of course, people who have no regard for fertilizing and destroying tiny humans would have no problem donating the "surplus" to medical research.

If there was EVER a case for an example of BIASED reporting, this is it!

Bush is wrong about a LOT of things, but he's right in vetoing this.

[abbe7]

Gee, do you think this "Dr" has self interest here? I'm sure this was a scientific survey of ALL his patients in his little corner of the world. How much federal money does this "Dr" stand to gain? Typical CBS propaganda promoting their views.
Posted by mbcsmith at 10:16 AM : Jun 21, 2007

Talking about self interest ...

Bush wants only to stop the "federally-funded" research, whose results would be public domain and would not allow his corporate friends to make the money they would get from our wallets.