Comments on: Bush Vetoes Stem Cell Bill

Veto Is His Second Of Stem Cell Legislation During Presidency

[mcvet]

A human embryo is not placed in the womb unless God chooses to place he/she there to begin the miracle of growth. What part of this do you not understand. People don't decide when life will occur, God does! People try to play God all the time, but ultimately it is up to GOD as to whether or not people will have children. There are plenty of more options available for stem cell research, and the killing of created human embryos shouldn't even be in the discussion!!
Posted by singinrick at 10:48 AM : Jun 21, 2007


The AMERICAN TALIBAN Speaks!! ROFLMAO Here are people who just a few decades ago was out there with their hoods and sheets telling us that Blacks were Inferior and should be "Equal but Different" because that was "God's Will". Now they are PRETENDING to be so Moral. It just makes you sick. I am all for these low life pieces of Human Garbage believing what they want but I sure am NOT going to allow them to dictate what our scientist do based on what THEY think God does or does not do. They have NO creditability and shouldn't be listened to PERIOD! The Religious Reich has NEVER in the history of this nation been right, NOT ONCE about such things. Sieg Heil and Amen.

[secundus2]

An embryo is not a human. It becames a human after several months of gestation, says Formrusmcsgt.

Thanks kindly for this answer. But I prefer to ignore assertions like yours (and the opposite assertions) and to focus on action. As I said originally, doctors emplant embryos and women have them emplanted in the scientific certainty that they will, barring spontaneous abortion, result in childbirth. I'm forced to conclude that the embryo is a human life in its earliest stage (but a sperm is not, an egg is not). I think this view will be confirmed when medicine finds a way of supplying the embryo with the nutrients it needs to develop outside the womb (extra-uterine birth is theoretically possible only if everything needed for human life except nutrition is already present in the embryo, isn't it?).

[realpatriot1]

Infidel_US,

These embryos aren't being "planted" for experimentation, they're being planted so that otherwise childless couples can have children.
The process brings life into the world that otherwise would not exist.

[mcvet]

It's like a horrible science fiction movie. Libs are a pathetic bunch. Partial birth abortions are ok. Growing humans for experimental research, that's ok.

Is it any wonder why people have no respect for life, anymore???
Posted by infidel_us at 11:21 AM : Jun 21, 2007
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ROFLMAO Right! You Nazi's can't even LIE anymore... ROFLMAO Do you honestly BELIEVE anyone with a brain out here believes you One Party Rule Nazi's anymore? You know your "Blame your problems on Liberal's" line just isn't working anymore? But then I guess when you are so stupid that you are a Fascist, you can't really come up with anything on your own can you. ROFLMAO Sieg Heil Bush!!!

[infidel_us]

"Because the exact number of eggs needed to produce an embryo for reimplantation cannot be accurately predicted, the process often results in more embryos than can be safely accomodated by the woman's womb, as it is, most invitro pregnancies result in multiple births."

That's exactly why this whole process is so appalling. The "shotgun" approach to creating human life. It is the epitome of selfishness.

[infidel_us]

Oh, one more thing, this is a VERY BIASED, ONE SIDED report. Nowhere I could see were the objections noted by people like myself who believe life begins at conception and should not be broadly "planted", like corn in a field, just so they could be used for research.

It's like a horrible science fiction movie. Libs are a pathetic bunch. Partial birth abortions are ok. Growing humans for experimental research, that's ok.

Is it any wonder why people have no respect for life, anymore???

[realpatriot1]

singinrick,

The invitro process involves removing eggs from the woman's uterus and devloping them further before placing them back in the uterus where the process of birth continues.This is done for couples who've had difficulty conceiving naturally.

Because the exact number of eggs needed to produce an embryo for reimplantation cannot be accurately predicted, the process often results in more embryos than can be safely accomodated by the woman's womb, as it is, most invitro pregnancies result in multiple births.

That's why these embryos end up being frozen, because they can't be immediately brought to term.
The only way that these embryos will develop into fetuses and be born is if:1)The couples decide to have more children. If the couples don't act fairly quickly, the frozen embryos become less viable. If the couples were to allow others to take these embryos and attempt to carry them the chance of success would probably be very iffy because they weren't their eggs/sperm/genes.

If the invitro process which resulted in these embryos was never conducted,these eggs would've been passed and not resulted in life.

The only way these embryos can become human beings is if the couple turns right around and repeats the process before the embryos become not viable. Not practical and maybe not even possible.

As far as I can tell, no frozen embryo has been used later and resulted in a successful birth.

[infidel_us]

Bush is an idiot, but in this case, he's right. It's the SAME THING as using federal funds to fund highly disrespectful/objectionable "art".....this sort of thing is NOT the role of the federal government.

It's bad enough we have to fund NPR.....I do not want my tax dollars going to this cause. If I wanted to fund it, I would buy stock in companies that engauge in the research.

[abbe7]

"Once again the liberal mottom: Save the trees, but kill the babies in the womb.
Posted by singinrick at 10:36 AM : Jun 21, 2007"

Better than save blastocysts, send them as cannon meat to Iraq 20 years later.

[rochest]

abbe7 sorry took so long had to look go ev 1but yes this is exactly what is a problem with having things pass into the private sector and not remain where the public can see and control them


katg... no one is saying abandon other lines of research that is promising... but one has to remember one of the reasons for embryonic stem cells have not produced results is that research on these lines were stopped before the state of the art really improve enough to make them robust

and now I must leave this discussion time is pressing