Comments on: Immigration Collapse A Blow To Bush

GOP Senators Play Key Role In Scuttling President's Immigration Reform Plan

[omega39-2009]

%u201CBut as more and more commerce is fouled by fast-food clerks who mistake orders, taxicabs drivers who misunderstand directions and telemarketers who can%u2019t explain why they called
Posted by coffeehead

coffehead, they are not talking about "skill sets" for fast food clerks and telemarketers, they are talking about maneuvering around the H1B1 limits and further eroding the tech base as well as other higher paying professions in this country.

[coffeehead-2009]

acauble1 -

Profit is sometimes a "trickle up" effect in immigration - the majority do NOT benefit and NOT becasue of "laziness".

The civic involvement upon which our free society is founded is weakened:

%u201CInability to speak English impairs the capacity of a citizen to digest political speech, to serve on juries, to participate in judicial proceedings, to serve in the armed forces, and to participate in a military mobilization.


%u201CBut as more and more commerce is fouled by fast-food clerks who mistake orders, taxicabs drivers who misunderstand directions and telemarketers who can%u2019t explain why they called, sociologists and consumer behaviorists detect a palpable, collective complaint that%u2019s evolved into one of the most politically incorrect questions of the %u201990s: Can%u2019t anyone here speak English? ... Poor English skills among foreign-born residents cost more than $175 billion a year in lost productivity, wages, tax revenue and unemployment compensation, says Ohio University economist Lowell Gallaway.%u201D

%u201Cit%u2019s accentuated because 80 percent of the workforce is employed in service jobs. A lot of these jobs are filled by immigrants. But by definition, service means communication. If workers can%u2019t communicate, it certainly effects quality of life.%u201D

http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters641a

[nadeau4201]

Dogband......Wow life as we know it according to you would end without the help from these hard working immigrants. Because after all we know Americans are just too lazy to actually do these jobs.
My God how did Americans ever survive before the Mexican invasion.I'm surprised we are all still alive since we would never pick OUR own crops. I wonder who built all the houses before the invasion. I guess we were all homeless living on the streets wondering aimlessly until these people came to save us from ourselves.

[blindersoff]

Being lazy has nothing to do with why Americans don't do certain jobs. Some businesses will not pay fairly for certain work. Who do you think used to do it? There is no need to stereotype all Americans. Immigrants should be able to come here legally without so much paperwork and problems. Then the need to sneak in will cease. These employers should also be fined to the point where it is not worth their while to hire someone who is here illegally.

[acauble1]

Hey Senator Dorgan, I think I see your mothership coming thru the clouds? What solar system is your home anyways? Immigrants take many jobs Americans can fill? Holy ***!! Are you serious. Immigrants take jobs that lazy Americans WILL NOT DO.

Posted by Dogband at 07:50 AM : Jun 07, 2007
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Dogband, Senator Dorgan was partially correct. Unfortunately, the economic reasons why Americans "won't do the jobs that the illegals do..." has never been fully explained in the media. Let me explain some basic economics to you:

Illegal immigrants are doing jobs that Americans won't do FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THE JOB PAYS! In other words, if you are an illegal immigrant who just came across the border, shacking up with someone or sleeping on the streets, do you need $10+ an hour to pay mortgage, insurance, or utility bills??? NO!!!!!!

Illegal immigrants work for next-to-nothing wages, and the employers who hire the illegal aliens at minimum wage keeps more money in their pockets rather than paying for labor costs. Which is why so many unscrupulous/scumbag employers absolutely love illegal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants are a supply of laborers who work cheaply. American citizens are also a labor force, but most of whom have the burden of taxes and other life expenses that many illegal immigrants don't have. Therefore, us American citizens REQUIRE more money for the same job. AND IF THE JOB DOESN'T PAY THE MONEY WE NEED, THEN WE DON'T DO THAT JOB!!!

[panhandlpete]

If you go to CNN.com/LouDobbs website and take a look at the PRESENT members of the Senate/House who voted for the 1986 Amnesty Bill, then ask yourself the following questions...1) Why should the American citizens believe this bill will end the illegal immigration problem? 2) Why are these folks still in our government representing special interests? 3)Isn't it time for a good GENERAL housecleaning and have TERM LIMITS of no more than 8 years?

[dogband]

Hey Senator Dorgan, I think I see your mothership coming thru the clouds? What solar system is your home anyways? Immigrants take many jobs Americans can fill? Holy ***!! Are you serious. Immigrants take jobs that lazy Americans WILL NOT DO.

Whatever solution is reached, anyone with a brain should be able to determine that without the immigration workforce our economy would collapse.

Just wave the magic wand: make all illegial immigrants disapper overnight: produce rots in the field, bricks will stay at the factory instead of your new home, most industrial cleaning will not be done, and tons of construction will not be completed.

Good God almighty, I pay money to have you morons in Washington. You should be paying me for the priveledge of being so stOOOpid.