Comments on: Immigration Collapse A Blow To Bush

GOP Senators Play Key Role In Scuttling President's Immigration Reform Plan

[likeitis5050]

The ONLY reason it failed is jobs are on the line...THEIRS!! And they know there isn't enough time before election to count on people 'forgetting'. That's how arrogant they are. The career con-artists school the new ones just coming into the field on how to pass huge pay raises for themselves AS SOON AFTER ELECTION AS POSSIBLE so that voters forget by the time elections roll around again. These elected vipers are not in this for us. What ever laws they pass regarding every thing from health care to immigration will never impact them so they really only work to stay elected. Amnesty for 12 million law breakers is not an issue for them. They just know they stand a huge chance of not being re-elected if they don't pay attention to all the demands and complaints Americans are making now. You don't see Bush changing course too much...he never cared what anyone wanted or worried about not being re-elected...he just 'stayed the course' and screwed everything up. But Congress has to think about their cushy little careers all hanging by a thread if they make one false move.

Politicians, regardless the party, are crooks and liars out to rake in all they can for themselves. Any evidence they have done something noble or humane for mankind was media spin...personal gain is all you will ever find on their agendas.

Yes I will vote. No, I do not believe a word they say.

[nadeau4201]

Protesters in the Austin, TX area will be joining together to demonstrate against Rick Perry's recent trip to Istanbul to meet in secret with the Bilderberg group on June 7. In short, the people are declaring Rick Perry to be a traitor in the Takeover of Texas-- from the Trans-Texas Corridor to the North American Union to mandating an HPV vaccine and privatizing TxU for the exclusive benefit of international banking firms and the Bilderberg group, Rick Perry has committed treason by selling off the assets of Texas.

Presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX) has stated that Perry's attendance at Bilderberg is "A sign that he's involved in the international conspiracy."

They have no plans on securing the borders. North American Union has been the plan all along.

[ioweign]

Mexico is a sovereign nation, the United States is a sovereign nation. The very idea that 12 million plus citizens from Mexico will just walk across a sovereign nations borders without invitation illegally and demand citizenship, work, benefits, schools and rights absolutely blows my mind, it just does. It's just outrageous in every context, from every view, no matter how you look at it. Unbelievable in every context! It's just mind boggling. It staggers the imagination. And whats worst and equally retarded the United States is debating new laws to let them do it!
Posted by tbweb at 01:30 AM : Jun 09, 2007

Good Post tbweb - and the illegals have the energy and nerve to protest here but are do nothings back in their own countries for better conditions. I read somehere where a couple of hospitals are sending the medical bills/costs back to Mexico. I wonder how Mexico's credit report look!!!

[l8c6]

tbweb, We could boycot large big mega stores, retail, hardware but one thing that has hurt americans is their buying into the materialism that multinational corporate america has marketed in such as way that people believe it's worth maxing out their credit cards over *** processed by foreign workers and illegals.

Everyone should begin to realize if they are able to look any distance down the road at all that as the erosion of "our way of life" continues even those thought to be prosperous will not have enough assets to maintain a quality life as the CEO's, CFO's who have 100's of millions and 10's of billions. A million, 2 or 3 will not be enough to have but an unsettling existence in a 3rd world nation.

[l8c6]

rharrin1, As for people like Frank Sherry who puts immigrants ahead of citizens I hope ignorant scum like him find that betraying the trust of a taxpaying citizenry is a good way to find yourself banished for treason and sent looking for another country. I'll tell Mr. Frank Sherry, unless he has enough money or something really good to offer, he won't be welcomed in Spain anytime soon nor readily any other European nation. Try protesting in the streets in Mexico as a non-citizen brandishing a U.S. flag demanding rights and see how far any U.S. citizen would get. Every american needs to loudly ostracize any pig trying to spin this off as racism.

[l8c6]

Were the goals of multinational corporate america the destruction and betrayal of american workers, their families, taxpayers and our infrastructure their goal? Maybe not too precisely but their narrow focused hedonistic narcissistic anti-social scum of the earth ways allowed them to see only one thing in mind for themselves, money and power and the destruction of representative government to help acheive those objectives.

This is just one example but in the hospital I work, a man from Cuba who cannot speak English has a rather sketchy story of how he came to the U.S. via the Caymen islands. Currently hospitalized for "psychiatric reasons" --reasons being feeling isolated and alone because he can't speak the language, he is costing the taxpayer, citizens, you and me over $1,000 a day for this hospitalization while people who have paid taxes into this system their entire lives are easily left to rot if they should lose their job and health insurance. I hope every CEO and CFO and the rest of the rot who have voted the Reagan neo con way finds themselves ovewhelmed to learn there is a hell for their betrayal of their fellow countrymen.

[sjc_1]

It is not Harry's fault, it is not W's fault, it is the Republican voters fault. They were to ones that pushed for a law in 1986 that had so many loopholes in it, it was effectively worthless and they knew it. Rich Republican business owners that want cheap labor made sure that whatever was passed was so weak and vague that they could get away with whatever they wanted and the voters of their party went right along with it. This is a split in their party. A few that want cheap labor and the many that want them all gone.

[rharrin1]

Frank Sharry, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum, called the vote %u201Ca huge disappointment to immigrant communities and those seeking a solution to the dysfunctional immigration system in America.%u201D

There is nothing dysfunctional about our immigration system, if they weren't here illegally nothing would be wrong.

Go after the people that hire them, if they can't work they would go back on their own.

[forthepeopl1]

Washington - President Bush used to be fond of saying that American troops would stay in Iraq as long as needed and not a day longer. He isn't saying that anymore.

The new word from the White House is that American troops would be stationed in Iraq permanently on the "Korean model." The analogy is a little strained. The United States has helped to mend the rift between North and South Korea since 1953. But South Korea has had no internal insurgency to worry about.

The plan for permanent bases in Iraq must have been long in the making. The president ignored a recommendation of the Baker-Hamilton Commission that he state that America seeks no permanent bases in Iraq. At one point last year, the Senate and House passed an amendment to the military-spending bill banning the establishment of permanent bases in Iraq. The bill went to conference and then the ban on bases, adopted by both chambers, mysteriously disappeared.

AS I HAVE BEEN STATING HERE FOR YEARS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN HIDEING THIS UNTIL ITS TO LATE TO DO ANYTHING.....

[tbweb]

rudy654 wrote:

Again, isn't karma just grand? Set the example, and people will certainly follow it.

Posted by rudy654 at 02:07 AM : Jun 09, 2007

rudy654,,,

So is Deju Vu! No immigration laws were obeyed or enforced in the past, so why should we trust that these new immigration laws will be obeyed and enforced? Immigration Laws? Been there done that! Lets try something different like deportation and fining Businesses and jailing their owners for employing illegal labor and tracking their contributions to Politicians who vote in their favor to support their crime and jail them too!

[grumpas]

Harry Reid, the great divider, like most liberal Dems in politics today....... simply can not "lead" ......which is why the Congress has an approval rating of 29% in the lastest polling.

Heck of a job ......Harry
Posted by perception5

Just like all right wing nut's you don't know your a.. from a hole in the ground perception5! Harry Reid is not a liberal Democrat! Never has been and never will be! He is far to conservative for my tastes! If I had some other choice I probably wouldn't have voted for him. It's either him or some far right wing nut case the Republican's always run. Who turn out to be another one of Bush's lap dogs! So, I will vote for him again. Because he is the least of the evil's!

[cowboy1942]

A total joke! When these phony politicians finally decide to send back those 12 million ILLEGAL Social Security System, and Education System,wreckers,then maybe a bill will be passed!
Citizens beware,Those Pol's ain't here to help us, their there to fatten up their wallets!

[tomtomasters]

The problem is Mexico. American politicians should not be granting amnesty to illegals, no matter if they pay fines. The USA should be addressing the problem to the Mexican government. Either Mexico steps up to the plate and stops the illegals, or the USA should consider occupation of Mexico, and take Mexico as its 51st State. At least the USA could do what it wants in Mexico and change its defunct government into a system that would support itself. Americans could enjoy the benefit of taking their land and resources. Nice trade off I think. You illegally come to America; we can legally take your country.

[tbweb]

rudy654 wrote:

I'm just curious. But, does it blow your mind that the U.S. did it to them less than two hundred years ago? Isn't karma just grand? Does it also blow your mind that the colonists did the very same thing to the 500 nations that were already established on this land just over 200 years ago? Again, isn't karma just grand? Set the example, and people will certainly follow it.

Posted by rudy654 at 02:07 AM : Jun 09, 2007

rudy654,,,

Former President H.W. Bush Sr. once made a very simple observation and I agree with him. He said the American system works if people will only let it, he is right, the system works! All the United States had to do and has to do is enforce the immigration laws already on the books and the U.S. would not be in this situation. Greed and business profits won out over obeying the law. At the end of the day its comes down to law and order and laws had to be broken for this situation to be the way it is now because if the laws were obeyed the U.S. wouldn't be here! As far as Karma goes, 200 years ago is 200 years ago and that's their fault if they didn't enforce their laws, but this is here and now and this is the United States of America and we have laws and jails with tools and resources to make our system of government work, however the American people were sold out by those entrusted with administering the republic.

[hungry1968]

We need to defeat this do-nothing divider when the GOP takes back the Senate in 2008.
Posted by perception5 at 07:20 AM : Jun 09, 2007

You really are cooked in the head. Take back the Senate? After their 6 years of ignoring everything the Democrats proposed and / or wanted, all of their rubber-stamping of everything that Bush wanted no matter how absurd, and now voting against everything that the Democrats want no matter how good it is for the country? Don't forget - it was their 12 years of unfettered control of Congress that led us into the mess we're in right now. The GOP isn't the solution - it's their fault.

[peaceforusa]

NO AMNESTY, NO FREE RIDE is what the American's are against.

That was supposed to be "what the American's are for". Please pardon my error.
Peace

[peaceforusa]

BYE,BYE Bush-Kennedy. This is what these old cronies get for trying to slide bills past the American people by masking it. This bill was Amnesty no matter what way they tried to present it and NO AMNESTY, NO FREE RIDE is what the American's are against. I really despise this administration for trying to pull the wool over Americans eyes. They must think we are not watching what they are up to. I know this fight isn't over and we need to keep vigil on their next move, lest they try to sneak it past us without presenting it to us at all. How many times have we gone to bed and the next morning another constitutional right has been altered and/or taken away as we slept? This government needs to start listening to us. We can take them out of office as easily as we put them in.

[perception5]

Saturday, June 09, 2007

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is now viewed favorably by 19% of American voters and unfavorably by 45%. Just 3% have a Very Favorable opinion while 22% hold a Very Unfavorable views

We need to defeat this do-nothing divider when the GOP takes back the Senate in 2008

[perception5]

"This Is the president's bill. Where are the president's people helping us with these votes?"

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev

......Let us see "it's the Presidents war" ....... "it's the President's bill".

Harry Reid, the great divider, like most liberal Dems in politics today....... simply can not "lead" ......which is why the Congress has an approval rating of 29% in the lastest polling.

Heck of a job ......Harry

[mcvet]

Uh, I don't think teddy has a big fat smile on his big fat face either. Typical, make it ALL about Bush when the left didn't get thier way either. Now the dems are going to have to come up with another plan to get those new victims here. I guess it's much easier to forget that this whole deal was bipartisan and cooked up behind closed doors. Much easier.
brianbwb-way to get your daily dose of racism.
Posted by janem4 at 06:21 AM : Jun 09, 2007
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What is it with you Nazi's? You can't even support your own Fuhrer anymore!! ROFLMAO What a bunch of losers!!