Comments on: Bush Unveils Strategy On Global Warming

President Urges Voluntary Cuts Of Greenhouse Gas Emissions

[sparks224]

Bush Unveils Strategy On Global Warming

should have been titled

Bush Pulls His Head Out Of His A$$

[homespunlady]

I read about Global Climate Change long before most and found a map of predicted changes that was created about 10 or more years ago. I'm sure that map has been fine tuned since then but as far as accuracy for the climate change where I'm located it's been right on the money. Warmer, more rain and insects - better for growing things now unlike other areas I looked at that face drought and more severe weather patterns.

America's appetite for waste and self destruction has always fascinated me but I can only control myself and possibly some things in my immediate range. The rest I have to leave up to the choices of others. I suggest doing the cost effective things but those are different depending on your circumstances.
I've angered quite a few with my "small jungle" and critters; but as long as I could name the plants and their uses I avoided some of the insane draconian zoning that comes from people that insist that it's "Unamerican to be different".
In the long run I've been right but have suffered until the rest of the people have caught up.
Solar, wind, Fuel cell, chemical and nuclear technology are all being bought up and regulated for big business. When they become more profitable I'm sure they'll become the "new oil"

[hsinco-2009]

Don't woory about man made global climate change. The Rapture will come first so we don't have to worry about anything, the Chimp has the ear of God.

[sparks224]

dlpracer,
What level of denial are we talking about?

1. It's not happening
2. It's happening but it's not caused by humans.
3. It's happening and it's caused by humans but it's a good thing.

Also, you didn't mention (probably just forgot) how many of your scientists are being funded by big oil.

I would list the scientists who disagree with them but we don't have room.

[jimfinster]

dlpracer:

I recognize most of that short and disgraceful list. Most are not climate scientists. Most are aligned with the fossil fuel industry.

Compare that list against the thousands of legitimate climate scientists that acknowledge global warming to be real and and a threat.

TRY AGAIN

[dlpracer]

Dr.Andreas Prokoph Adjunct Professor University of Ottawa
Dr.Paul Reiter Professor Institut Pasteur
Dr.Art Robinson Founder Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine
Dr.Arthur Rorsch Emeritus Professor of Molecular Genetics Leiden University
Dr.Rob Scagel Principal Consultant Pacific Consultants
Dr.Gary Sharp Director Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study
Dr.Nir J. Shaviv Astrophysicist The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Dr.Fred Singer Climatologist The Competitive Enterprise Institute
Dr.Graham Smith Associate Professor University of Western Ontario
Dr.Roy Spencer Principal Research Scientist The University of Alabama
Dr.Henrik Svensmark Climate Scientist Danish Space Research Institute
Dr.Gordon E. Swaters Applied Mathematics Professor University of Alberta
Mr George Taylor State Climatologist State of Oregon
Dr.Hendrik Tennekes Retired Director of Research Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute
Dr.Gerrit J. van der Lingen Climate Change Consultant Geoscience Research and Investigations
Dr.G. Cornelis van Koten Environmental and Climate Change Professor University of Victoria
Dr.Jan Veizer Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences University of Ottawa
Dr.Boris Winterhalter Retired Senior Marine Researcher Geological Survey of Finland

Oh ya, they're all in the pocket of the oil companies right? The GW hysterics great canard.

[dlpracer]

Dr.Madhav Khandekar Former Research Scientist Environment Canada
Mr.William Kininmonth Former Head National Climate Centre
Dr.Hans H.J. Labohm Former Advisor to the Executive Board Clingendael Institute
Dr.Douglas Leahey meteorologist and air-quality consultant Calgary
Dr.Marcel Leroux Climatology Professor Emeritus University of Lyon
Dr.Dennis Lettenmaier Hydrology Professor University of Washington
Dr.Richard Lindzen Meteorologist Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Dr.Bjorn Lomborg Associate Statistics Professor University of Aarhus
Dr.Alister McFarquhar International Economist Downing College
Dr.Ross McKitrick Associate Professor University of Guelph
Dr.Patrick J. Michaels Professor of Environmental Sciences University of Virginia
Dr.Fred Michel Associate Professor Carleton University
Dr.M. R. Morgan Climate Consultant First Minister of Wales
Dr.Nils-Axel Morner Emeritus Professor Stockholm University
Dr.Tad Murty Adjunct Professor University of Ottawa
Mr.David Nowell Fellow Royal Meteorological Society
Dr.Garth W. Paltridge Director The Cooperative Research Centre for Antarctica and the Southern Ocean
Dr.Benny Peiser Professor of Social Anthropology Liverpool John Moores University
Dr.Al Pekarek Associate Professor of Geology St. Cloud State University
Dr.Roger Pielke, Sr. Meteorologist Cooperative Institute of Research
Dr.Ian Plimer Professor University of Adelaide and University of Melbourne
Dr.Harry N.A. Priem Emeritus Professor Utrecht University

[dlpracer]

Dr.Ian D. Clark Earth Sciences Professor University of Ottawa
Dr.Paul Cooper Professor Emeritus Laurentian University
Dr.Richard S. Courtney Climate and Atmospheric Science Consultant Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Dr.Chris de Freitas Associate Professor and Climate Scientist The University of Auckland
Dr.Freeman J. Dyson Emeritus Professor of Physics Institute for Advanced Studies
Dr.Hugh W. Ellsaesser Physicist/Meteorologist Formerly with Livermore National Laboratory
Dr.Robert H. Essenhigh Professor of Energy Conversion The Ohio State University
Dr.Christopher Essex Applied Mathematics Professor University of Western Ontario
Dr.Bill Gray Professor Emeritus Colorado State University
Dr.Vincent Gray Expert Reviewer Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Dr.Keith D. Hage Meteorology Professor Emeritus University of Alberta
Dr.Howard Hayden Emeritus Professor of Physics University of Connecticut
Dr.Douglas Hoyt Retired Scientist Raytheon Company
Dr.Andrei llarionov Chief Economic Adviser
Dr.Zbigniew Jaworowski Physicist and Chairman Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection
Dr.Ola Johanneseen Professor Nasen Environmental and Remote Sensing Center
Dr.Wibjorn Karlen Emeritus Professor Stockholm University
Dr.Aynsley Kellow Professor University of Tasmania

[dlpracer]

Try again.

Posted by jimfinster at 08:57 PM : May 31, 2007

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OK...I will. A list of deniers for you to work to discredit. If ya don't like the message, go for the messenger.


Dr. William J.R. Alexander Professor Emeritus University of Pretoria
Dr. Claude Allegre Geophysicist Institute of Geophysics
Dr. August H. Auer Former Professor of Atmospheric Science University of Wyoming
Mr. Dennis Avery Environment Economist Center for Global Food Issues
Dr. Sallie L. Baliunas Astrophysicist Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Dr. Timothy Ball Canadian Climatologist and Former Professor University of Winnipeg
Dr. Robert C. Balling, Jr. Climatologist Arizona State University
Dr. Jack Barrett Chemist and Spectroscopist Formerly with Imperial College London
Dr. David Bellamy Horary Professor for Adult and Continuation Education Durham University
Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen Reader University of Hull
Dr. Simon Brassell Geologist University of Indiana
Dr. Reid Bryson Meteorologist University of Wisconsin-Madison
Mr Nigel Calder Former Editor The New Scientist Magazine
Dr. Robert M. Carter Geologist James Cook University
Dr. Ian Castles Fellow Australian National University
Dr.Petr Chylek Physics and Atmospheric Science Adjunct Professor Dalhousie University

[jimfinster]

He only got "sincere" after the Supreme Court slapped him upside his noggin.

[norcalruss]

If the DECIDER was sincere about this then why did he wait six and a half years after rejecting the Kyoto Accord to do anything? He is just paying lip service, for political purposes, about an issue that he is too ignorant to know or care much about.

[long_rider]

Strategy = plan, this president? Ha! Ha!

I hope this plan is a little better than the one he has for Iraq.

The only plan the chimp has ever had, that works, is the one to dis-assemble America.

My fellow Americans you should be proud of leaving this total idiot in office. We deserve no better.

Go for it chimp, we are behind you.

[mh4cbs1]

dlpracer:

You are such a fool. What if you are wrong and the "greenhousers" are right? Surely you must admit this is at least a possibility. And if so, is a run-away Greenhouse planet worth the risk??

Warmer earth -- less ice reflecting the sun -- warmer temperatures -- melting permafrost -- release of tundra methane -- accelerating greenhose -- warmer temperatures -- more water vapor from oceans -- greater greenhouse effect -- warmer temperatures -- less ice cover -- warmer temerpatures....

[mh4cbs1]

In other words, Bush continues to subsidize the Oil Industry who are drowning in obscene record profits; he LIES about WMDs to invade Iraq for their $21 Trillion in Oil Reserves; and he asks for "voluntary" improvement. Meanwhile we continue to produce thousands of Hummers and oversize SUVs, rape the mountaintops of W Virgina for coal, and do nothing to spur the growth of renewable energy.

As these SOBs enrich themselves the planet starts to burn.

[jimfinster]

dlpracer:

Maybe you should do a little research on "Professor Fredrik Seitz"

He was Chairman of the American Science Academy till 1969, then went rapidly downhill (professionally) after that. He worked for RJ Reynolds for years, doing research to "prove" that tobacco was not a health hazard. After getted exposed as a fraud, he was fired there. Since that time, he has been a professional skeptic of anything and everything. He is considered an old crackpot.

Try again.

[dlpracer]

Even "The Nation", hardly an apologist for the right, admits that their is little balance in the debate.


The greenhousers endlessly propose that the consensus of "scientists" on anthropogenic climate change is overwhelming. By scientists they actually mean computer modelers. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and their computer-modeling coterie include very few real climatologists or atmospheric physicists. Among qualified climatologists, meteorologists and atmospheric physicists, there are plenty who do not accept the greenhousers' propositions. Many others have been intimidated into silence by the pressures of grants, tenure and kindred academic garottes.

"Professor Fredrik Seitz, former chairman of the American Science Academy, "I have never before witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report." He gave many examples of changes and redefinitions and finished by demanding that the IPCC process should be abandoned.

[fizzal-2009]

Im not sure but something more important is the ozone layer on the planet that protects us from some kind of radiation that just didnt show up here brought by the aliens but is produced by lightning traveling through the atmosphere and thank god that there is something there like co2 too produce it.

[jimfinster]

In other words, additive effect.

[jimfinster]

brianp55:

Simple. It amplifies the other factor.

[brianp55]

Jim:

You are right. Yes, there is a clear correlation between CO2 and planetary warming. But to what extent? What happens when elevated CO2 is concurrent with some other factor which is driving an increase in temperature?