Comments on: Obama Unveils Universal Health Care Plan

Government, Businesses And Consumers Would Share The Program's Cost

[tmn]

One thing is clear - basic health coverage for each and every American is WAY overdue. No more excuses...

[barbaraf4]

Posted by lestb35

"I personally know of two illegal aliens going through cancer treatment scott free. That's about 100K per patient at tax payers expense. No body illegal gets turned away and I don't think anyone legal gets turned away either through medicaid."

Medicaid doesn't kick in until you have NO assets left (that would include your house). It is tailor-made for illegals who already have nothing. It is not tailor-made for legals who hope to survive their illness but have nothing to go back to.

[tuckerndfw]

Posted by realpatriot1 at 10:12 PM : May 29, 2007

According to what I've read, the only plans any presidential candidates have involves requiring, by law, people to buy health care insurance.

And, that was the foundation for Hillary's aborted health care "plan" when she was Slick Willie's co-president. It is the foundation for Edwards' health care plan. Obama hasn't specified how he would force everyone to participate, but we can conclude it would be under penalty of law.

I fail to understand why we need to involve insurance companies at all. Seems to me that is where much of the unnecessary expenses occur.

[processor2]

I would agree to "universal health care" so long as the single-payer IS NOT the government.

Afterall, do you really want George Bush having access to all of your PAPP smears, mammograms, and prostate exams????

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[realpatriot1]

tuckerndfw, The plan you describe is Romney's Massachusetts plan.

fartknocker, We have the highest gas prices ever right now with the oilboys.

Bush came out with a new healthcare plan over the weekend that I bet you'll like. He wants to perform medical experiments on patients without their consent, including on children as young as 15. Your tax dollars at work.

lestb,you're already working January til June for the pharmacuetical industry.Here's what I mean:

drug consumer price active ingredient cost
Celebrex $130.27 (100 mg) $.60
Claritin $215.17(100 tabs) $.71
Lipitor(20mg) $272.37 $5.80
Paxil(20mg) $220.27 $7.60
Prevacid(30mg) $44.77 $1.01
Prilosec(100 tabs) $360.97 $.52
Prozac $247.47 $.11
Xanax(100 tabs) $136.79 $.024
Zocor(100 tabs) $350.27 $8.63
Zoloft(50mg) $206.87 $1.75
These stats are from a Budget analyst for the U.S. Dept. of Commerce.

[tuckerndfw]

Here is the current Democrats' "plan" for "universal health care":

"Buy insurance or we will put you in jail."

That does not sound like much of a plan to me.

[lestb35]

I personally know of two illegal aliens going through cancer treatment scott free. That's about 100K per patient at tax payers expense. No body illegal gets turned away and I don't think anyone legal gets turned away either through medicaid.

[lestb35]

Hello 40% tax bracket. Now we can work from Jan.'till June for the government.

[kammason]

Just to let you know I have been unemployed sense Nov. 08 and I am a citizen born and raised. And I am not eligable for medicaid. Have you been to the employment office lately? Well let me tell you, most unemployed American do not qualify for any medical assistance. But you are right about illegal alien are not being turned away.

[nottellin1]

Universal healthcare for all, no border security and periodic illegl immigration amnesty. So what other country are we moving to because the rest of the word will likley be moving here.

[cozzicon]

"because for you, it's whatever slogan or mantra you've been trained to repeat... it's about 'coming off' as caring versus doing what is necessary to care for people." -- dogsoul

Doesn't providing cheaper health care for the insured, and coverage for the uninsured, do exactly what you are claiming the present system does (but actually doesn't)?

The present system doesn't care for those children and uninsured folks. If it did- we wouldn't be having this discussion. We wouldn't have millions without health insurance.

If you blame big business for the state of health costs you are blaming the very mechanism that caused the problem.

I think the question to be asking is how to get 45 million people insured. Not saber rattling horse-*** based in partisan orgy-land.

Admittedly, both parties smell bad. But for God's sake don't kill messengers with semi-solutions, that might make things better, by using right or left rhetoric.

To do so is to be less than a patriot.

Unless of course you want to get the degree and go treat those kids yourself.