Comments on: Dems Seek No-Confidence Vote On Gonzales

Schumer And Feinstein Say Attorney General Has Been Too Weakened To Do His Job

[pakaal]

Blind loyalty is a very dangerous thing--even more so, if the one wielding it has neither respect of understanding of any facet of morality or decency.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 10:45 PM : May 17, 2007

It's nice to see that people like Spector have the courage to say what he believes to be true. I won't say he makes me want to embrace the Republican side, but it does say something about the man.

[toldyouso21]

"I have a sense that when we finish our investigation, we may have the conclusion of the tenure of the attorney general," Specter said during a committee hearing. "I think when our investigation is concluded, it'll be clear even to the attorney general and the president that we're looking at a dysfunctional department which is vital to the national welfare."

It has long been obvious to most Americans that, whether it is a war or the criminal justice system or the courts, Bush could not care less about the dysfunctionality of any US government dept. Loyalty trumps truth or justice in his mind. I suspect that even if Gonzales was caught on tape killing a baby, Prez. Bush would uphold his loyalty to Gonzales and question whether the infant was perhaps the latest trick of terrorists or evil doers and thus deserved its fate.

Blind loyalty is a very dangerous thing--even more so, if the one wielding it has neither respect of understanding of any facet of morality or decency.

[pakaal]

Scary thought Pakaal!
I really hope their family business has nothing to do with Bushs stay the course decisions?
Posted by the74blaster at 10:12 PM : May 17, 2007

Hey there 74blaster. I just tossed that out as a bone, since the person commenting couldn't really answer the rebuttal. I don't really think Bush is a Nazi. I don't attribute that level of evil to him.

But you might want to check out Smedley Butler's book "War is a Racket". According to General Butler (at the time the most highly decorated Marine), he was approached by a cabal of business interests in 1934 to overthrow the US government. Interesting reading....

[randalds]

Posted by pakaal at 10:35 PM : May 17, 2007

I love that too. They point out all of the things the far right accused Clinton of as if the fact that the lunatic fringe of the republican party charges someone with something then, by God, they must be guilty. Funny how they always fail to point out the Clinton was the most investigate politician, bar none, in USA history and that they proved exactly nothing against him. Talk about a waste of time and effort. But still they won't let it go, like a child or a dog with a raggedy old chew-toy. Sad Sad Sad

[pakaal]

Posted by RandalDS at 10:20 PM : May 17, 2007

Hey RandalDS, yeah, pretty typical responses. Question Bush, Clinton gets thrown back. As if a guy out of office for two terms is the bane of Bush's existence. Instead of deciding to fight against corruption on both sides, they opt to say "well Clinton did it too" as if that makes it OK for Bush to do what he does. Heck, even if Clinton did EVERYTHING they say he did, how does that possibly excuse what's being done now?

Just silly.

[elz523]

Bye Bye Gonzales!!! Don't worry, there are plenty of job opportunities for you buddy... who wouldn't want a manager who delegates everything, takes responsibility for nothing nad can't remember what he did yesterday?

Gonzales, Wolfowitz, Libby, Delay, Cunningham, Ney, Abramoff and the beat goes on. The wheels are coming off this conservative administration. Corruption, incompetence and hypocrisy of historic proportions.

The truly sad thing is that there can still be one in three Americans who can support these *****.

[pakaal]

The Germans were never close to a marine launched V2, and the other Germany was NEVER capable of launching a sea based attack on the US mainland.
Posted by dlpracer at 10:15 PM : May 17, 2007

The "other" Germany? How many do you know?

As to "never close" the Germans had a successful test launch of the platform in 1944. Close enough by any reasonable standard. As the man said "we've gone to war for less." And certainly fits the "Germany was a direct threat to mainland US" question. As do the 12 V2s sent from Germany to Japan.

Not that Germany posing a threat to the US in WWII is even a question, it's rather silly of you to even try to argue otherwise.

[randalds]

...goes to show what you don't know about the Kennedy's. How do ya think Joe bought the presidency for John.

...are you starting to get testy on me?

Calm down, its just a blog.

Try again.
Posted by dlpracer at 10:11 PM : May 17, 2007

Point out the truth to him and simply says it's not true. Kennedy stopped running booze at the end of Prohibition, 7 years before America entered the war, yet this one just denies the truth. If he claimed 1 + 1 = 3 and you pointed out to him that it really equals 2, he'd either say that's just an opinion instead of a fact or just continue to mouth his current party line that it really does equal 3. He lives in an altered reality of his own construction.

[walt1944-2009]

Congress wants a "no confidence" vote against Gonzo. The only one who has confidence in Gonzo is George W Bush. Raise your hands those of you out there who have confidence in George W Bush!

[dlpracer]

As to the WWII german threat to mainland US, by 1944, Germany had already created a prototype sub capable of launching V2 rockets, and V2s were being shipped to Japan as well.

I don't know how much of a threat Germany was to the mainland US in '44, but it's clear that if the war had gone differently, we were on Hitler's list of "things to take care of".
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Nothing to rebut here!

The Germans were never close to a marine launched V2, and the other Germany was NEVER capable of launching a sea based attack on the US mainland.

HILLARY ALL THE WAY BABY.

[randalds]

Naah. The fact that you didn't touch the rebuttal and jumped to the side note says it all.

Posted by pakaal at 10:08 PM : May 17, 2007

Also when you point out actual history to him, including facts, he calls it an opinion. Guess he hasn't heard that you can have your own opinion, but not your own facts. Can't point out the truthto those who close their eyes when they see it. He's beyond help.

[the74blaster]

Side note: Maybe Bush's grandfather Prescott could have convinced his friend Adolf Hitler to not attack and instead support Bush, Thyssen and his allies overthrowing the US government.

Scary thought Pakaal!

I really hope their family business has nothing to do with Bushs stay the course decisions?

I know someone who made untimate sacrifice in operation Iraqi freedom. The thought of him or any American giving his/her life so someone else could profit on war really aggrevates me.

Perhaps a binding vote of confidence for the Bush administration is in order.

[dlpracer]

Another crock of sh*it from someone who doesn't know history. Joe Kennedy did run illegal booze (mostly scotch) during Prohibition, which was over in 1933! Well before we went to war to protect our interests.

Try again moron and this time read a book first.

Posted by RandalDS at 10:05 PM : May 17, 2007

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...goes to show what you don't know about the Kennedy's. How do ya think Joe bought the presidency for John.

...are you starting to get testy on me?

Calm down, its just a blog.

Try again.

[pakaal]

Try again
Posted by dlpracer at 10:02 PM : May 17, 2007

Naah. The fact that you didn't touch the rebuttal and jumped to the side note says it all.

So, self-avowed "independent", who's your choice for Commander Guy 2008? Sorry, my bad, "Commander Person" since it could very well be Hilary you're voting for.

[dlpracer]

Not at the time but they were developing them and if we had not gone to Europe to help stop them there then they certainly would have attacked the US as soon as they consolidated power in Great Britain. Have you ever taken a history class or do you just make up bulls*hit as you go along?

Try again moron.

Posted by RandalDS at 09:49 PM : May 17, 2007

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If only this, if only that... Wow you people love to twist up a good history lesson don't ya?

I'll see ya in class and we'll see who graduates.

Study hard, there's a test tomorrow.

Tee hee

[randalds]

Kinda sounds similar to old man Joe Kennedy, who wanted us to stay out of the war because it was ruining his illegal scotch trade.

Try again
Posted by dlpracer at 10:02 PM : May 17, 2007

Another crock of sh*it from someone who doesn't know history. Joe Kennedy did run illegal booze (mostly scotch) during Prohibition, which was over in 1933! Well before we went to war to protect our interests.

Try again moron and this time read a book first.

[pakaal]

Now, after a trip through WWII land, back to Gonzales!

"The names on the purge list 'clearly did not represent the final actions or views of the department's leadership or the attorney general,' said Justice spokesman Dean Boyd. He said the lists 'reflect Kyle Sampson's thoughts for discussion during the consultation process.'"

Oh, that's right this has nothing to do with the head of Sampson's department, who actually signed off on the firings - Alberto Gonzales. Yeah, blame it on Sampson, he's the one that typed in all the names Karl Rove told him to. Nothing to do with Gonzales, the HEAD of the DoJ.

Is Gonzales literally there just to sit in his chair and smile for the visitors or what?

Gonzales answer: "I don't know."

[dlpracer]

Side note: Maybe Bush's grandfather Prescott could have convinced his friend Adolf Hitler to not attack and instead support Bush, Thyssen and his allies overthrowing the US government.

Posted by pakaal at 09:53 PM : May 17, 2007

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Kinda sounds similar to old man Joe Kennedy, who wanted us to stay out of the war because it was ruining his illegal scotch trade.

Try again

[pakaal]

"What YOU think and what happened are TWO different thing. Germany did not have the means to attack the main land US."
Posted by dlpracer at 09:42 PM : May 17, 2007

Since you're a fan of proper English, dlpracer, "things" in this case becomes plural, and mainland is one word.

As to the WWII german threat to mainland US, by 1944, Germany had already created a prototype sub capable of launching V2 rockets, and V2s were being shipped to Japan as well.

I don't know how much of a threat Germany was to the mainland US in '44, but it's clear that if the war had gone differently, we were on Hitler's list of "things to take care of".

Side note: Maybe Bush's grandfather Prescott could have convinced his friend Adolf Hitler to not attack and instead support Bush, Thyssen and his allies overthrowing the US government.

[randalds]

What YOU think and what happened are TWO different thing. Germany did not have the means to attack the main land US. They didn't succeed in attacking the Soviet Union on their own continent.

I'll use smaller words so you can understand.

Good luck and try again.


Posted by dlpracer at 09:42 PM : May 17, 2007

Not at the time but they were developing them and if we had not gone to Europe to help stop them there then they certainly would have attacked the US as soon as they consolidated power in Great Britain. Have you ever taken a history class or do you just make up bulls*hit as you go along?

Try again moron.