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toldyouso21 says:
. Posted by LoveUSA2 at 11:22 AM : May 14, 2007

Some people propose killing all illegals. That way, they would not overcrowd prisons, no one would need to worry about the families and the dead ones would never come back. It would also serve as a deterrent to new migrations across the border. Of course that would be horrible--but as people are pushed one way or the other and one groups views is forced on the other, extreme views and possibilities come to the fore.

the fact is, if you really want concessions then there has to be a stopping point. Everyone knows illegal immigration will not stop with this amnesty, it will only encourage it. It is also true that many of the jobs "Americans do not want" stories are not true. Americans may not be wanted by the employer since he would have to provide benefits and ensure workplace safety and Workers comp. but that does not mean there are not lots of Americans who would not like the jobs. I personally know several Americans who cannot find work on construction sites and have been informed it was due to their status and requirements. So your remarks are bull and many Americans suspect this. Face it--there will be a compromise--and that does not mean that either you or I completely get our own way. When you open your arms in generousity to others, make sure what you offer up only belongs to you--otherwise--you will have a fight on your hands.
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loveusa2 says:
You are imprisoning Children in these horrible instant prisons all at $90 a day to the RNC cronies.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/21/AR2007022101661.html

I wonder if your response to this is the same as Americans during the Japanese Internment responded when they first learned of those imprisonments.
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loveusa2 says:
Check out info on the Willacy Detention Center. FOLLOW THE MONEY!!

http://cajeproject.org/blog/?p=29
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loveusa2 says:
Of course the prisons are overcrowded in TX, NM and AZ. This is because of the massive workplace sweeps and the change of the OTM policy. Previously, the OTM policy was catch and release. Bush changed the policy last year. All OTMs are not imprisoned in instant prisons. These instant prisons were built by RNC Cronies. These cronies won these no-bid contract after Bush4s promise. These sweeps are lining the pockets of the cronies since they are paid $90 a day per person. No wonder they are arresting entire families.
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loveusa2 says:
Of course there are massive labor shortages in this country. Benanke has said the 11M have positively contributed to our economy and saved us from a massive recession. This is particularly important as the Boomers age and move into their retirement years. Mass Deportation would kill our ecomony.
Look at the job shortages.
Nursing: http://www.aacn.nche.edu/Media/FactSheets/NursingShortage.htm
Farming: http://www.columbusdispatch.com/dispatch/contentbe/EPIC_shim.php?story=247186

IT: http://www.h1base.com/page.asp?id=348
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toldyouso21 says:
But entering the country without documents is a civil violation. It%u2019s neither a felony nor a misdemeanor, as is, say, driving without insurance documents. If an illegal entrant is taken to immigration court, the punishment, if so adjudged, is called %u201Cremoval.%u201D Usually the entrants are allowed to leave voluntarily, avoiding formal deportation. That%u2019s important because re-entry after voluntary departure remains a civil violation, but after formal deportation becomes a felony.%u201D Obviously, there should be no such thing as voluntary deportation. All so adjudged should be formally deported at their own expense. The next time they show up they will be felons and treated accordingly. This is another major flaw in our immigration proceedings.
Posted by LoveUSA2 at 09:08 PM : May 13, 2007

The initial violation is a civil one (though some in Congress are working to change that) BUT any repeated violation of Deportation orders is a felony, which is why some being caught reentering or having faced deportation are being jailed. You may want to google the stories on CBS on the overtaxing of jails in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas due to the backlog of illegal immigration cases for elucidation on this issue. A Civil breach of law the first time, a criminal breach if the deportation orders are violated.
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toldyouso21 says:
The truth is, the only place middle income is impacted on wages is by outsourcing and you know it!!
Posted by LoveUSA2 at 04:06 PM : May 13, 2007


Actually, it is also by insourcing. Between the large inlux of immigrants (legal and otherwise) getting everything from visas to work in computer technology to nursing, jobs that would have gone to middle class Americans are not available. In several instances, employers prefer the foreign labor as they do not have to pay full benefits, save for pensions, etc. RE-sourcing of American jobs to anyone except Americans does hurt the middle class and is not an isolated phenomenon hence, the interest and advocacy of Lou Dobbs.
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loveusa2 says:
There is no such thing as amnesty in any potencial bill. To begin with, if any of you ever studied the issue, you would know it takes 10+ years for someone from Mexico to obtain legal status following the USCIS immigration process. With the new procedures it will take even longer. It is very clear these are EARNED paths to citizenship. Most of the 11M here have been here 5 years. It has taken over 20 years for the number to total 11M. This is not an overnight issue.

I encourage everyone to study the Immigration issues before they listen to the rhetoric from the ANTI coalitions.
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loveusa2 says:
Kai,
I know the old argument: Some of my best friends are Mexican. I can tell what an illegal immigrant looks like by looking at them. I have this special power that tells me so. Maybe its their cowboy boots or belt buckle. I could tell every May 1 Marcher was illegal. I could tell because they all have brown hair and brown skin.

No one is undercutting your wage. Go back to school. Study. You are in charge of your own wage. What a big crock for you to make a statement "they are undercutting my wages!"

You don4t understand nor have you studied the immigration issues. You don4t have any idea the impact of Mass deportation to our USA.

People like you who don4t study the issues and spout out your ridiculous comments are contemptible!! It just shows your xenophobia!!
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hotinphoenix says:
Can an amnesty work?

How will we separate the criminals from the economic refugees? Will the amnestied migrants qualify for Affirmative Action preferences, even though they can't claim a %u201Clegacy of past discrimination%u201D?

The devil is in the details and nobody in the %u201CSi, se puede%u201D crowd is talking.

Should we trust the president on amnesty? Was he right about WMDs in Iraq? When he said major military operations were over? In taking us to war the first place?

Some suggest America has no right to deport because %u201Cwe are a nation of immigrants.%u201D Yes, legal immigrants. Historically, we have deported gate crashers. Thus, we are a nation that deports, too.

Is it cruel to deport? No, because illegals accept the risk of deportation when they enter this country. Also, an amnesty will invite more illegal immigration.

Besides, who will do the jobs Americans won't do when the illegals become Americans? More illegals?

Finally, when illegals are deported, they are sent to their home countries, not to Siberia!

Say "no" to amnesty.



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