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Passes Limited Funding Bill, Rejects 9-Month Exit Plan; Bush Signals Flexibility On Benchmarks

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by lthuij May 11, 2007 1:03 AM EDT
Pensacola8, please don't connect dots at random. If your way of thinking is legitimate, then we should have a Super-Marshal plan to rebuild every nation that is threatened by lawless chaos with military force, not just Iraq. There are several nations in Africa that are in similar lawless situation like Iraq, then there is always North Korea that poses threat to the free world. Why you pick Iraq to be the nation that needs to be rebuilt with force by U.S. but not others?

Even if U.S. want to set up aid plan to help these nations, why must there be military force involved? Was military involvement also part of the original Marshal plan? The answer is no.
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by toldyouso21 May 11, 2007 1:00 AM EDT
And you poll lovers, Demotool congress approval ratings SUCK!
Posted by badaxmofo at 09:35 PM : May 10, 2007


You don't mean that. First because no matter how low--it is higher than Bush's.

Second, because Republicans do not believe in ratings and polls (especially when their own are in the toilet) you can't possibly be serious about viewing such info. LOL
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by iceman_1960 May 11, 2007 12:57 AM EDT
"Just two more quick years of this type of 'progress' should all but GUARANTEE GOP sweeps in 2008!"
- Posted by badaxmofo at 09:51 PM : May 10, 2007

Bet the ranch on that, sir.

Bet everything you have.

It will be very enlightening for you to discover what homeless shelters are like.
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by tbweb May 11, 2007 12:53 AM EDT
I feel sorry for the Republicans in the 2008 election cycle! The 2008 election cycle will be very ugly for Republicans, very few of them will win their jobs back! It's a shame too, because it won't be until after the 2008 elections when America gets to speak again that Pres. Bush and the Republicans who supported him on Iraq finally get the message the American people thought they sent in the last election! This time America will make sure its heard loud and clear, this time the message will come in the form of a hammer slamming down on the Republican Party and this Iraq war as if it were an atomic explosion! This time Americans will finish them off!
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by hungry1968 May 11, 2007 12:53 AM EDT
Posted by Pensacola8 at 09:37 PM : May 10, 2007

So enlist and get your *** over there! Or are you like a typical Republican thinking "someone else's kid" should be doing your bidding for you?


"Whining never gave adequate defense of any democracy."
Posted by Pensacola8 at 09:46 PM : May 10, 2007

We're not defending a democracy - we're stuck in the middle of a civil war. They hate us and everything about us. They don't want to be in a democracy - why do you think there are no Democratic governments in the middle east? Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan - they rule with iron fists because that's the only way to keep them in line. We can't win by fighting barbarians under the rules of the Geneva Convention.
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by tbweb May 11, 2007 12:52 AM EDT
I feel sorry for the Republicans in the 2008 election cycle! The 2008 election cycle will be very ugly for Republicans, very few of them will win their jobs back! It's a shame too, because it won't be until after the 2008 elections when America gets to speak again that Pres. Bush and the Republicans who supported him on Iraq finally get the message the American people thought they sent in the last election! This time America will make sure its heard loud and clear, this time the message will come in the form of a hammer slamming down on the Republican Party and this Iraq war as if it were an atomic explosion! This time Americans will finish them off!
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by iceman_1960 May 11, 2007 12:52 AM EDT
"Frankly, I am becoming less patient with our country's whiners. This is what we get breed a generation of people who don't believe that fulfilment is possible through serving others."
- Posted by Pensacola8 at 09:37 PM : May 10, 2007

Whiny spamming ? Is that your idea of serving others ?

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a d*amn what you're becoming less patient of.

You can always move to Paraguay, where right wingers rule the roost.
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by iceman_1960 May 11, 2007 12:49 AM EDT
"which is besides the point when compared the THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of US military that died fighting WWII, 10K alone on D-Day!"
- Posted by badaxmofo at 09:45 PM : May 10, 2007

Not beside the point at all, and if I were you, I'd stay far away from the WW2 analogies. As far away as possible.

The Axis Powers were defeated across the globe in less time than Bush has been bogged down in a country smaller than Peru in both area and population, and after the surrenders the people of Germany, Japan and Italy were like a flock of docile sheep, not the hornets' nest that Iraq has become.

Stay away from the WW2 analogies. Thay just make your argument look stupid.
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by hungry1968 May 11, 2007 12:46 AM EDT
Where is Rumsfeld hiding these days?

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 09:37 PM : May 10, 2007

Probably back at Lockheed Martin. That's where he came from, and he scored them billions in no bid contracts just like Cheney did for Haliburton.
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by pensacola8-2009 May 11, 2007 12:46 AM EDT
The Iraq War was over 4 years ago. Since then, our effort has been Nation-Building. Congress has the power direct the funds that support this effort. President Bush has made it clear that we face a moral dilemna if we pull out and allow a nation with a weak democracy to fall. Secretay Marshall served under President Woodrow Wilson and recommended that the winners of WW-I make a rehabilitation effort to rebuild the nations of the loosers in order to have stability in Europe. History showed us that we rejected the Marshal plan and faced WW-II 25 years later. After WW-II, we adopted the Marshal plan and the loosers- Japan and Germany, became strong and stable democracies. If our congress does direct the president to pull out the troops, we will be back there in Iraq and it may not take 25 years. How can Americans face returning to Iraq for a third time? It will be our soldiers kids that will go there. I abhor the idea of passing a problem like that to my grandchildren. Two generations of Iraq is enough. Lets finish what we started in '92! The whine factor in our culture will be there whether we are in war or peace. This is what we get when we breed a generation of whiners, who don't believe that fulfilment is possible through serving others. Nation building is a duty of the winners. Whining never gave adequate defense of any democracy.
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