Comments on: Hillary Seeks To End War Authorization

Clinton, With Sen. Robert Byrd, To Push Bill Requiring President To Get War Reauthorization From Congress

[rsoxfan1123]

NYCKATE-Carl Jung had a theory on that. He said that there is something in our psyche that can create a "group mind". The more identified with the group mind we become the less indvidualized our thinking becomes (the ego loses its power over us), but the collective IQ drops in proportion to the mass of people. You basically get a mob mentality.

[realpatriot1]

US_infidel,

El Presidente told us the other day that we will know by fall if we are going to succeed in Iraq or not. Was he giving our enemies a timetable?

We've been told that the surge won't be totally operational until July. That's why the violence in Baghdad initially went down and is now heading back up. Once the surge is totally operational it will either work or not by fall, according to him.

If this resolution passes, it won't take effect until October 11. If progress is being made he can go back to Congress and seek an extension. If not, then by his definition, we will have lost. Under the proposals of Congress we would still have another 6 months to withdraw.

What's the problem Dude?

[rsoxfan1123]

One of the things that baffles me about Bush supporters is how or why on earth they thought a neophyte like Bush was EVER going to fix the middle east.
Posted by NYCKATE at 10:49 AM : May 04, 2007

I think that they simply put party loyalty over common sense. Religion can be like that also- it can short ciruit the human brain in some weird way that makes an intelligent person behave irrationaly. Like those Heaven's Gate people that drank the poisoned kool aid to send their souls to space ships. Some of them had really high IQs. Politics and religion will do that to people.

[nyckate]

Rafterman1 - the iraqi tribes have been brutally warring with each other for 1,000 years - long before the nation was even formed -- so just how long do you think US can keep our troops there -- another 1,000??

One of the things that baffles me about Bush supporters is how or why on earth they thought a neophyte like Bush was EVER going to fix the middle east. Not only has Bush shown extreme inability to comphrened any culter different that that of a trust-fund-frat-boy but he's also completel delusional about his own capabilities - he's never done nothing but fail - then Rove came along and literally 'sold' a false perception of Bush and so many bought into the soundsbites. WHY??

[rsoxfan1123]

realpatriot1-Condi is too creepy looking to be a stepford wife. I remember reading the book when I was a kid and they were all at least a little bit feminine and pretty.

[kidlibrarian]

My son has been in Iraq now for 7 months, just as we thought he was halfway through they do an extension.

Our soldiers are tired. We are losing over 100 soldiers a month. Either they are getting mentally exhausted and are not as cautious or we are not doing a bit of good over there. To tell you the truth, I believe both.

Bush says he would know if the moral of the soldiers was down. Well he apparently is not talking to the right people. Live with the soldiers for awhile and then you will see. Dont listen to the officer that is hardly on the front lines. I bet all he asks is How are you doing soldier? The soldier answers, Ok sir. So yep the moral is good.

What bothers me more than anything is THE PEOPLE want this to end. How can a president that was voted in by these people continue to do what he wants and not the people?

I know I have a long way to go in understanding politics, but I hate people that do not sway from the old righteous "I am always right syndrome"

[rsoxfan1123]

Infidel_US-the thing that baffles me about you is your wife is a teacher. You know bush and the repubs fully intend to destroy public education, we have discussed it and your wife verified what I told you. Yet you support a group that clearly is out to wreck your wife's career and very probably your life in the process. Despite this you are honest in your psotings (unlike most republicans I see here) yet apparently you put political party over even your own well being. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

[realpatriot1]

rsoxfan1123,

When you say that Bush has a great marriage to his stepford wife, are you talking about Laura or Condi?

[infidel_us]

Drop the accent, Hillary. Your supporters deserve a more honest presentation by their %u201Choss%u201D in this race.

[realpatriot1]

Hey Republicans! When Reagan pulled out of Lebanon was he a surrender monkey? No, he was showing some sanity. WE Democrats aren't the ones who've been beating our chests and there hasn't been a time that things were going well in Iraq since the end of the combat phase.

We accomplished what we went there to do, get rid of Sadaam and WMD. If there's any WMD in Iraq today it's come since the occupation across the borders we aren't capable of sufficiently guarding.

I'm not a Hillary fan but this is the most responsible proposal so far( and Republican John Warner deserves credit for initally proposing it).

There is no option other than withdrawal and the October 11 date gives all the parties time to adjust to the new reality. If our "enemies" hold their fire until our troops are out of harm's way, that's a good thing. The alternnative is them shooting us as we're leaving, which is why immediate withdrawal is unrealistic.

The Republicans will try to filibuster this. Americans should prepare to shut down the Capitol Hill if they do.

To quote the Republicans, elections have consequences. If the American people have to speak again, so be it.