Comments on: House Votes To Expand Hate Crimes Law

Bill Would Add Attacks On Gays To Federal Hate Crimes Law; White House Threatens Veto

[mudrose-2009]

And I'm Harriet.
Posted by mudrose at 05:05 PM : May 03, 2007

I thought there was something familiar about you!

By the way when's dinner going to be ready? all this chatting makes me hungry!

Posted by ozilot

I enjoy nothing more than a good sense of humor and the end of a day and the end of a post. Good night Ozzie.

[tuckerndfw]

I am your worst nightmare...I just happen to be a very successful lawyer.

As for your other comments...you just don't get it because you don't want to! so be it!

Posted by ozilot at 05:03 PM : May 03, 2007

You are totally irrelevant to me other than for entertainment value.

I'll let the readers decide for themselves who offered the more rational, coherent argument.

If voters are stupid enough to support politicians who attempt to criminalize emotions, they deserve the totalitarian government under which they will live.

Good luck with your "successful" law practice.

[mudrose-2009]

I am your worst nightmare...I just happen to be a very successful lawyer.

As for your other comments...you just don't get it because you don't want to! so be it!


Posted by ozilot

And I'm Harriet.

[tuckerndfw]

With that reasoning why bother having laws at all?

Posted by ozilot at 04:55 PM : May 03, 2007

You have the absolute right to demonstrate your illiteracy and ignorance for all the world to see. And, are doing so.

Obviously, you do not let facts interfere with or influence your opinions.

Based on your comments, you are too unfamiliar with the legal system to offer a rational opinion on the topic at hand.

And, based on your latest comment, totally ignored or did not comprehend my previous comment.

[antoniof123]

I really don't get it why do any of you wing nuts care. If you don't commit a hate crime then you have nothing to worry about.

Oh wait I forgot that only works if you are a GOP member in any standing.

You wing nuts are going to keep it up till next year and you see that the swing voter is no longer listening to you then you will try to change but I really think we need to remove a few more of you wing nuts to make sure that you learn from this if that is possible.

You divided my country and now I am angry with what you have tried to force upon all of us.

[mudrose-2009]

It's all about money, power and control and the dumb sheeple like you fell for it.


Posted by newster1

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Posted by NOWHITEGUILT

Move over, will ya?

[nothappyatall]

"May GOD bless us all
Posted by jcnova2 "

SHOVE IT jc, just shove it, take your biBULL fairy-tale krap and stick it.
There is no god and the biBULL is a piece of 2000 year old fiction put togetehr by morons who wanted complete control over the dumb sheeple- the KINGS who wnted riches, wealth, land, property and control put all that krap together to keep this church thing going and rake in the cash every week, penitance, fines and more.
It's all about money, power and control and the dumb sheeple like you fell for it.

[mudrose-2009]

May GOD bless us all
Posted by jcnova2

You are a good person so for your own sake, don't post anything else here. Those that advocate the passage of this bill will insist your are guilty of a hate crime. LOL

Keep the faith.

[tuckerndfw]

What is so wrong with trying to correct an injustice? to show compassion?

ozi, with a little o

Posted by ozilot at 04:35 PM : May 03, 2007

Emotions are an essential part of our "freedoms."

We have the right to hate or love, as we see fit.

Everyone in the US has the absolute right to stand on a street corner (within certain limitations) and express his love or hatred for anyone or anything.

But, we do not have the right to harm others in the process. And, that is the limitation of the law. It is already unlawful in all fifty states, the District of Columbia, and all US territories to threaten, assault or murder others. Motive is irrelevant except in the prosecution.

That's the way it is in a "free" society.

A society that attempts to criminalize or reward emotions is not a "free" society.

Nazis attempted to legislate emotions. Nazis used their "hate crimes' laws" to criminalize anyone who did not support the Nazi party. So your reference to Nazis is ironic. And, is irrelevant to the current topic.

[mudrose-2009]

There is no god and I am not subject to the laws and rulings of a book of fairy tales from 2000 years ago. Believe what you will, but don't try to push it on me or to inflict it on my government. What IS real is the separation of church and state "as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end". Amen.
Posted by RandalDS at 04:40 PM : May 03, 2007
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Posted by NOWHITEGUILT

Move over, wlll ya!
Posted by mudrose

[randalds]

Is it me, or has everyone forgotten about our Lord and Savior? A.K.A. GOD the creator of this world and everything in it. GOD gave us rules to live by and yet, only when we are faced with devastating circumstances do we seek him and his word. Well I got news for all of you: GOD is real and He is coming back as He promised and you will have to answer to Him. So think about your lives and the way that you are living them. If it's not according to GOD'S rules, then you are in danger because yes, He is coming to judge every single one of us.

May GOD bless us all
Posted by jcnova2 at 04:29 PM : May 03, 2007

There is no god and I am not subject to the laws and rulings of a book of fairy tales from 2000 years ago. Believe what you will, but don't try to push it on me or to inflict it on my government. What IS real is the separation of church and state "as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end". Amen.

[mudrose-2009]

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Posted by NOWHITEGUILT

Move over, wlll ya!

[rushman71]

jcnova2: I could not have said that better myself. Thank you.

[nowhiteguilt]

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[nowhiteguilt]

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[mudrose-2009]

Three lies remain on earth which keep us from progressing as a people, and from getting closer to God: That men are superior to women, that whites are superior to all others, that it is wrong to fall in love with someone of your own gender.

- Louis Jacinto
Posted by onodream

Wish the unborn had the same rights, too. However, it is recognized that "man is endowed with certain unalienable rights by his creator..." but we rely on man to create rights and therefore man can take them away. Nothing makes us closer to God than to participate in his own creation. So hypocrisy abounds.

[jcnova2]

Is it me, or has everyone forgotten about our Lord and Savior? A.K.A. GOD the creator of this world and everything in it. GOD gave us rules to live by and yet, only when we are faced with devastating circumstances do we seek him and his word. Well I got news for all of you: GOD is real and He is coming back as He promised and you will have to answer to Him. So think about your lives and the way that you are living them. If it's not according to GOD'S rules, then you are in danger because yes, He is coming to judge every single one of us.

May GOD bless us all

[tuckerndfw]

Can you explain that to Ozi with a little "o"?

Posted by mudrose at 04:18 PM : May 03, 2007

I consider "hate crimes' laws" as ridiculous as the Bush administrations' "war on terror."

It is not possible to eliminate emotions or motives. We can, and do, punish those who cross the line based on their emotions, but trying to criminalize emotions is about as ridiculous as it can get.

As is fighting a war against a tactic. (as in the current "war on terrorism")

I can only post my viewpoints, it is beyond my ability to convince anyone of anything. They must make that choice of their own free will, or "emotions," if you will.

[mudrose-2009]

Perhaps Congress could also legislate proper hygiene while they are wasting their time trying to pass useless and unnecessary laws.

Criminalize people who stink!!!

And, then move on to ugliness...

These kinds of laws have no limits.

Posted by tuckerndfw

Can you explain that to Ozi with a little "o"?

[tuckerndfw]

By the logic some use when arguing against a hate crimes bill a person who kills some one in a car accident is no different than some one who plots a murder well in advance of the deed.

Posted by ertyui2 at 03:32 PM : May 03, 2007

You are clearly unfamiliar with the legal system.

As is anyone else who claims that threatening, assaulting or murdering people is a legal right unless we have special laws that address each specific motive of the assailant.