Comments on: Bush Vetoes Iraq Funding Bill

President Follows Through On Promise, Will Meet With Congressional Leaders Wednesday

[ihave4rugratshelp]

The fact that they haven't arrived at true total diplomacy in 8,000 years, but yet we are either arrogant or naive enough to believe that we can come in and bring diplomacy to fix all of this is perhaps the true picture of how totally unprepared we are to find a way to end this.

[meboard]

"This is a prescription for chaos and confusion and we must not impose it on our troops."
Yes, let's keep it where it belongs...the White House!

[j-whitman]

emokev,,, Keep in mind democracy is a no go in the Middle East unless they arrive at that on their own.... They have fought enemys for over 8,000 years of documented civilized history.. Read up on the Ottoman Wars & the decline of the Empire. ---- Evil is in all of us & totally in the eyes of the beholer & recipiant... Calling it evil is a big mistake.

[ihave4rugratshelp]

gdmoore2,
Why is it that our all-knowing and supposedly intelligent elected officials cannot figure out what you have so elequently stated? Is it because they are not capable, or they don't want to?
I think it is a little of both.
Good Night all.

[ihave4rugratshelp]

jwhitman, thanks for the info and good night--it just reaffirms my belief that the government is completely FULL of crooks. Trying to find the right players for a diplomatic solution for Iraq is almost the equivilant of trying to choose the lesser of two evils--and the really bad thing is that the different Iraqi factions couldn't even agree on what the lesser of two evils actually is.

[ihave4rugratshelp]

I knew that the diplomacy angle would not or could not originate from Iraq--there is no way that could be possible from the amount of sectarian violence that occurs there daily.

[j-whitman]

emokev -- Sure, gladly 2 times found fraudulant by our own SEC it's government record, 1 was Midland Savings & Loan, don't remember the other off hand.. There was a 3rd time also, but the case was shelved & never followed through on.

Good Night,,, really

[gdmoore2]

emokev - Your skepticism of diplomacy is well placed in the Middle East. Still, diplomacy is the process of finding the right solution with the right players. Diplomacy does not start with a soluion, it ends at one. We don't know the correct final solution for Iraq, and even if we did, neither Iraq nor the Middle East region is likely to accept it unless they arrive at it independently. I am skeptical that a military solution can be found. Our troops have already done everything they could be expected to do.

[j-whitman]

emokev,,, Diplomacy's only option is in thier neighbors hands alone..... Iraqi Sunni's are more than capable of elimating al Quida without our help, they aren't getting help from thier own government....
. Big problems are yet to come.. Iraq's Sunni's e only tolerated al Quida, souly because they both want to attack our troops, Sunni's will return to attacking us at thier earliest oppertunity..
.. Make no doubt about it. Even when Petreaus has enough to control Baghdad which even he doesn't put much promise in accomplishing,, there still will be around 600,000 needed troops that we don't have, & Iraq can't train the ones they have now & have them stay on the job.

[ihave4rugratshelp]

I think they must have the "How to Screw Up as President Without Really Trying" Handbook in the Oval Office as a permenent fixture. Otherwise, how does one explain what goes on in that office, political and otherwise?

[ihave4rugratshelp]

jwhitman,
If you happen to still be awake, just what did GW do to be convicted of fraud twice? I'm curious.
Thanks

[j-whitman]

Good night all,, ---- Except for those who think the Office of the President is a position you can screw up time after time cause "Grave damage to our National Security & Military & still say ---

"Oh, it's ok, you're just over worked, take some time off & watch cartoons, you'll feel better.. If not, it's ok,, we'll just graduate you to a higher grade even if you didn't pass"

[ihave4rugratshelp]

I don't know if a diplomatic solution would work in Iraq--I mean Sunnis and Sheites, who are both Iraqi and both of the same religion, can't get along with each other without blowing each other to bits. So someone please explain to me how diplomacy is going to end this war, when the Iraqis can't even get along with each other long enough to even attempt to negotiate. And, are we supposed to invite the Iraqi's neighbor Iran (or, lookie, we'll have a nuke in three years!!), to the table as well? What on earth makes us think we can fix all of this with diplomacy? These people like blowing themselves up--there is nothing diplomatic in that.

[j-whitman]

annd2302,,, Come on man, Bush was found guilty of fraud 2 times & rippe of millions from Texas taxpayers,,, prior to governor his only accomplishment was running the GOP ==== Ask the people of Texas if you don't believe it.

Bush & his cronies you really wouldn't want working at Burger King.

[bigdadpatrio]

j-whitman, spoken as a true American again! Me & my older brother are both Vietnam Vets and I know of what you speak. We both served in the middle to late sixties and the things you speak of haven't changed much since then. Shame on us.....Good night and have a great tomorrow.

[annd2302]

philipmontag

You da man. Excellent comments. Shows thought, perspective and a simple amount of compassion for a person with a lot on his mind.

[j-whitman]

philipmontag,,, I was almost in bed, but had to respond... Put him on trial,,, In Nuremburg wageing an agressive war on a presumed threat was a Hanging offense.. Not to mention outing of CIA agents.
, Bush's latest violation of our Constitution's 1st Amendment is his concept of demanding Fast Track on Trade,,, circumventing the power of the Senate to govern treaties.... Trade agreements are Treaties.

[bigdadpatrio]

cofmanaaron, well, we had our first BALANCE BUDGET in 40 years while under a Republican Controlled Congress (with a Democrat President); The debt came because if this insane war. You take out the debt the war has caused and we have had excellent economic growth even with it. It is as equally fair to blame what has happened to society on the 40 year control of the Democrats as you wish to blame the ills you mentioned for the 10 years of Republican control. I'd happily wager - with this war as anexception - had the Republicans been give 40 years also , I believe alot of the ills that have come about would be turned around...

[ihave4rugratshelp]

If we would rid both parties of their extremists, then that would give Hollywood and Rosie no one to talk to or about. That right there would eliminate at least one-half of the nightly news.

[imiri-2009]

I believe that the war is the most terrible of human activities. It's a waste in terms of human lives and of money. With the money spent during this years of war America could have financed, for example, projects for new clean fuels, to improve the health system, and so on. Could have found a way to dialogue with it's enemy, but the only way Bush found to work out his problems, was war, the oldest and in the same time the less productive means to create something good for the future.