Comments on: Ex-General: Bush Should Sign Iraq Bill

On Democrats' Radio Time Retired Army Big Says U.S. Squandered Lives

[truth832-2009]

Unfortunately, Condi is in the unfortunate position of having to defend a catastrophe; but, there is no need for her to lie! Did the UN force the US to invade Iraq?

This administration is determined to stay the course in Iraq! How else to describe no benchmarks for judging the progress of the Iraq government and its people!

The polls have shown that both the Iraq people and the american people want the US to pull out. Interesting that Cheney has that much authority that he can persuade the President to continue on this stay the course path!

Perhaps martial law is next? This administration is maintained through power. Let's pray that the transition to the next government administration in 2008 is peaceful!

[iceman_1960]

"Does that ever work in any other area of life, if it's at all tough or unpleasant to reach the goals ? I can't think of any examples in real life where such goals are achieved."

The Battle for Guadalcanal would still be going on if the troops had been told to "take the island when you take the island. Take all the time you need. If you don't feel up to attacking this month, ease back and we'll talk about attacking next month, or the month after that. In the meantime, get some R&R. Have a few beers and relax..."

The battle would still be going on. And those were American troops.

The Iraqis must be given hard and fast deadlines that they have to meet, or else.

[iceman_1960]

Condi Rice: "Lets stay in Iraq forever."

That in effect is what Condi said on national TV this morning, when she called for goals in Iraq with no consequences if they aren't met.

Does that ever work in any other area of life, if it's at all tough or unpleasant to reach the goals ? I can't think of any examples in real life where such goals are achieved.

"Rice said the president would not agree to a plan that penalizes Baghdad if the Iraqi government fall shorts. To do so, she said, would restrain the abilities of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, and Ryan Crocker, the new U.S. ambassador to Iraq.

"That's the problem with having so-called consequences," Rice said.

"To begin now to tie our own hands %u2014 and to say 'We must do this if they don't do that' %u2014 doesn't allow us the flexibility and creativity that we need to move this forward," she said.

[And that's why they haven't "moved this forward" yet. Goals without consequences.]

Rice and Murtha appeared on CBS' "Face the Nation." Rice was also on "This Week" on ABC."

[lukebize]

Anyone who thinks this nation will get escape from Bush's war without paying a terrible price is fooling themselves. The 3,000+ lives and hundreds of billions of dollars already sunk into this conflict does not even APPROACH the damage we have done in terms of political stability, economic damage and personal human loss both at home and abroad.

Even in the shadow of 9/11, America was relatively safe in the world. Now, thanks to Bush and his psychotic destruction of the last secular government in the Persian Gulf, we have enemies coming out of the woodwork with nothing left to them but quite-understandable hatred toward us.

Even if we weather (or avoid altogether) the pain of physical or economic attacks against us, at the very least, we face the auto-cannibalization of our freedoms in the interest of security. That is already happening. More is to come.

None of this was necessary. All of it was easily avoidable. All that is left is to hope we can emerge from the dark path before us with as much liberty as possible. I wish good luck to all who, from the beginning, were able to see the folly of Bush's misadventure.

[rafterman1]

===(Wolf Blitzer -- is that his real name, or one he made up during a drunken frat party ?)===

Dude spoke at my graduation when I got my Masters. He spoke about the dangers of the current world, back in 1999 :)

[homespunlady]

You'd think that if the argument for being in Iraq is to "fight them there so we don't fight them here" was valid we'd have stuck with the country that VOLUNTEERED BY SHELTERING OSAMA BIN LADEN rather than letting BIN LADEN to escape and live out his life in that country STILL INCITING AGAINST US and pretty comfortably as well from all accounts.
If AL QUEDA is being reconstituted there WHY is AFGHANISTAN not the shooting gallery country? Wouldn't it make MORE SENSE to go after the HEAD OF THE SNAKE rather than grabbing the grass beside it and getting bit?

[homespunlady]

Maybe his parents had a sense of humor.
Condi lost my respect when she started with the transparent lies. From what I've been reading, everytime she has a foreign meeting another leader issues a statement "setting the record straight" about what they perceived and her radically different comments on the subject.
She should stick with media spin there's obviously NO DIPLOMACY there.

[iceman_1960]

"Condi on CNN just told Mr. Blitzer that WE WENT INTO IRAQ BECAUSE THE UN TOLD US TO GO!!!!"
- Posted by homespunlady at 11:34 AM : Apr 29, 2007

Remember Right Wing Republican outrage when some U.S. troops in the Balkans were wearing the blue helmets of the U.N. ?

The Balkans campaign was a NATO operation, where at least U.S. treaty obligations could be cited.


(Wolf Blitzer -- is that his real name, or one he made up during a drunken frat party ?)

[homespunlady]

Gotta Love it when the executive branch tries to rewrite history to make themselves more palatable.
Condi on CNN just told Mr. Blitzer that WE WENT INTO IRAQ BECAUSE THE UN TOLD US TO GO!!!!
Yep, those warmongering UN people just FORCED our poor beleaguered President into a war.
What a sick joke.
Almost as sick as George trying to lay the blame of his 6 YEARS of incompetence on the the administration that was in power BEFORE him.
NEXT - George excusing himself by saying "the Devil made me do it".

[toldyouso21]

Anybody hear about Gonzales being heckled at his 25 year College reunion at Harvard? He was trying to pose with friends and when the photographer said "say cheese" Some people shouted how about saying "torture, I don't recall and resign instead" Word is Gonzales and his security detail left quick, fast and in a hurry and were NOT pleased. Rotflmao.

If Bush and Gonzales can't seem to let go of the office--the American voters just might make a laughing stock of the AG and make both wish they had taken the dignified way out.
Posted by toldyouso21 at 11:27 AM : Apr 29, 2007