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by ckcool192000 April 25, 2007 8:32 PM EDT
Notblue,

You simply cannot compare WWII and the war in Iraq.

Why, simple. Congress declared war on Germany and Japan.

Last I checked there has not been a declaration of war by congress.
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by notblue April 25, 2007 8:27 PM EDT
Hungary, what if our fathers and grandfathers had put an arbitrary time limit on WWII?? Either you believe we are in a GLOBAL conflict or you don't, if not, you can surely justify retreat but if you admit this is a global war of ideology then arbitrary retreat dates will do nothning to further the U.S. security and do nothing to help in the fight against Islamic radicalism.
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by ckcool192000 April 25, 2007 8:26 PM EDT
From CNN.com:

"Some Democratic leaders seem to believe that blind opposition to the new strategy in Iraq is good politics," Cheney told reporters at the Capitol after attending the weekly Republican policy lunch. "Senator Reid himself has said that the war in Iraq will bring his party more seats in the next election."

And why do you think that is... b e c a u s e the american people are tired of their tax dollars being spent on babysitting a country that we never should have invaded in the first place.

Republicans, Bush mainly, has forgotten that this country's government is "For the people, By the people" If you go against the majority of american...its very simple, you lose your job. That is what is happened in congress last year. That is what will happen next year in congress and the white house.
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by notblue April 25, 2007 8:23 PM EDT
ckcool, if the radicals could be subdued and some semblance of security could be acheived then the training process would move at a faster rate. it's hard to recruit Iraqi security forces when the police stations are one of the radicals primary targets.
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by notblue April 25, 2007 8:20 PM EDT
Huskerarmy while the scenario you describe regarding Iran is maybe not in the best interest of the U.S. or the rest of the free world, letting the radicals retake Iraq through violence as apposed to democracy is still a far worse outcome for the Iraqi people and the stabalization of the middle east in general.
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by hungry1968 April 25, 2007 8:18 PM EDT
ckcool the plan for Iraq is when they can do that we will leave it's pretty simple. If we leave now and they are not yet ready to defend themselves and there new government then the bad guys win.
Posted by notblue at 05:03 PM : Apr 25, 2007

This answer basically says: "We're staying forever."
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by huskerarmy April 25, 2007 8:12 PM EDT
"If we leave now and they are not yet ready to defend themselves and there new government then the bad guys win."
Posted by notblue
So if we can somehow squash the insurgency, and allow the democratically elected shiite government proceed, you will be satisifed notblue? In spite of the fact that most of those elected have sympathies with and/or ties to Iran?
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by ckcool192000 April 25, 2007 8:10 PM EDT
notblue,

So by your logic all we should be doing in Iraq is trainging. Because wouldn't that prepare them to take complete control?

This war effort has been mismangaged since the begining. Now the place is such a mess that it will take years if not decades for all fighting to stop. I don't know about some people but how much time does it take to train the Iraq people for the military and police? How long is basic training for the army? I'm sure basic training doesn't last over a year.

I support the bill in congress that withdraws most military by Oct of next year, leaving behind a training force to continue training.

The problem in Iraq is that the US military is not concentrating on training the Iraq military and police, they are just saying hey don't worry about it, we'll do the job for you.
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by kansas1946 April 25, 2007 8:09 PM EDT
Go get him Barack! Those comments are despicable, the lowest form of politics. Republicans have no monopoly on patriotism (or morals, as we have seen.) In comparison, Barack Obama has a thousand times more class than Rudy. Rudy is just a typical party boy politician, drunk with power. And the sad thing is, he is, so far, the best candidate on the Republican roster.
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by notblue April 25, 2007 8:03 PM EDT
ckcool the plan for Iraq is when they can do that we will leave it's pretty simple. If we leave now and they are not yet ready to defend themselves and there new government then the bad guys win.
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