Comments on: Rove Lawyer: E-Mail Deletion Unintentional

Democrats Seek Missing E-Mails While Probing Firings Of Federal Prosecutors

[r9119111]

What's funny, is they pull off these criminal stunts on a daily basis now, and they still point fingers at Clinton, and will continue to blame the dem's for everything gone wrong.
Posted by stevex47 at 03:41 PM : Apr 14, 2007

Clinton was a saint next to those who impeached him let alone this Right Wing overthrow of our democracy. This has been a cabal. We thought it couldn't happen in America but it happened right before our eyes and some of us still support it.

ca7bal [k%u0259 bal] n (plural ca7bals)
1. group of plotters: a group of conspirators or plotters, particularly one formed for political purposes
2. secret plot: a secret plot or conspiracy, especially a political one
3. clique: an exclusive group of people

vi (past ca7balled, past participle ca7balled, present participle ca7bal7ling, 3rd person present singular ca7bals)
conspire as group: to form a group and plot together against somebody or something


[Early 17th century. Via French cabale from medieval Latin cab(b)ala %u201Csecret teaching%u201D (see cabala).]
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Who might do a thing like that? I'm not saying it is, but could it be Right Wing, PAC's, PNAC, AIPAC, Evangelicals, Bought and paid for Congressmen, Corporations, Karl Rove, We the people. Who?

[waynabq]

There are two words I can think of to describe people who are still supporting Bush.

CLUELESS and/or DELUSIONAL

[johnshaft4]

Yeah, well if Rove's actions were "unintentional", so was the conduct of Charles Manson and Ted Bundy.
With these lying pathetic clowns, it is never going to stop is it?

[inventagod]

It's time to gracefully remove the entire Bu$h administration from power.
This is uncharted territory, but the founding fathers would be spinning in their graves.
For instance, this is the first time in history a vice president ran the country while a president was still alive.
Also, our US Attorney General should be indicted, along with presidential advisor Karl Rove.

Richard Nixon was a loose cannon, but this administration collectively has crossed over the line between greed and absolute treason...

[tucano2]

Evidence of email content is there for the looking - but if the hard drives have been replaced then it jailtime for bozo and bonzo

[stevex47]

It's really all been a lesson on mass cult recruiting via listening to the drug induced rants of Rush Limbaugh.

Like they were listening to long term subliminal messages, the right wing flock perverted itself.

What a horrid display.

[randalds]

Thank you RandalDS for explaining the legal part to me. I was unaware of the legal requirement to save e-mails. It would please me to no end to see the entire white house staff, including Bush, kicked out.
Posted by mikealford3 at 09:18 PM : Apr 14, 2007

No problem.

[mikealford3]

Thank you RandalDS for explaining the legal part to me. I was unaware of the legal requirement to save e-mails. It would please me to no end to see the entire white house staff, including Bush, kicked out.

[victoriarum]

It's a shame justice is just a word from the dictionary and not comprehensible to those who are imperial to those whom they represent.

God Bless

[gkc99]

If the hard drives haven't been cleansed, the emails should be there for the most part. If the hard drives have been deliberately laundered, there will be evidence of that. The FBI could easily find out.

Oh wait, the FBI answers to Gonzo! Too busy violating the law on national security letters to help on this investigation! Turdblossom and Gonzo just forgot to save the emails! Their dogs ate it!

Pelosi and Clinton: Show some spine, for once, and initiate impeachment proceedings before it's too late!

[walt1944-2009]

From what I have read about George Bush when he was the former governor of, Bushead kept every scrap of paper he wrote and when he went to Washington, he packed up every document he wrote and trucked it all, 8 pallet loads to his daddy's presidential museum. This was against Texas law, of course, but naturally, Bush Jr didn't care. In light of this, Bush Jr has probably saved every napkin he has ever written on, and to think that any documents, e-mails, or even spoken word has been "lost" is crazy, considering the "phobia" Bush Jr has about saving everything but not showing it to anyone!

[starleo146]

I would like to hear from you on why the FBI HASN'T confiscated blue berries computers etc and check these hard drives before they do any more damage to any investigative material. What are these guys going to do next. It is not on this blog but Wolferitz how about him and the world bank problems. He just carried what he learned at the white house to the world bank.

[searingtruth]

"My goodness, I don't keep an email for 4 minutes after it's read, ..."
mikealford3


Well, you are not the President or in his administration so you are not required to.

However, the law states that government records, including email, must be preserved and archived. Then, usually around 30 years after an administration ends, the archives become available to the public, less those still deemed to secret to release.

It's all part of something neo-cons hate called "transparent government".

In addition to this, the law also states that official government activity may not be carried out via RNC computers, because they can be used to hide illegal government activity, and bypass information preservation laws.

And by asserting the completely unbelievable story that millions of emails were "accidentally lost" we can only logically assume that massive criminal activity has indeed occurred.

This is indeed the straw that broke the camels back, and reveals a corrupt and lawless administration willing to commit any crime it believes is in its interest.

Unfortunately, at the same time they have nearly wiped out the 225 years of good will, respect, and admiration American had earned, and have threatened our Constitutional form of government.

Bush and Cheney must be impeached, and all their henchmen tried, for high treason against The United States of America. Now.
ST

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[randalds]

My goodness, I don't keep an email for 4 minutes after it's read, why keep an e-mail for 4 years.

Posted by mikealford3 at 06:22 PM : Apr 14, 2007

Because it's the law. They are required by law to save all government business related email permanently to provide both historical records for the future, but also to assist in any possible criminal investigation of the White House or it's staff. If they did indeed delete all of these emails, accidentally or not, they've broken the law and should be prosecuted for it.

[mikealford3]

My goodness, I don't keep an email for 4 minutes after it's read, why keep an e-mail for 4 years. I don't like the current administration, however trying to recover e-mails from the last 4 years is crazy. Next thing you know CBS will be airing the e-mail jokes that have been sent out. I can't wait for the video of the President opening an e-mail that contains some cartoon about Cheney shooting his buddy or Bush making a ***.

[forthepeopl1]

ttin= did you here the lastest, they have said that rove deleted at lease 4 years worth of emails. the whitehouse has said it about two hours ago. thats 4 years of emails that would shed alot of light on the war,bush,cheney,rumsfeld and this world bank slam ball. i just hope our congress says its time to close up the whithouse and clean house .. take all the computers out and look at everything..

[rafterman1]

Further more, it's not just a email server issue. You can have the missing emails stored in some form on both the servers and/or the workstations. That's a lot of hard drives that could hold the missing info. To have lost all that information from both the servers AND the workstations permanently would almost have to be deliberate.

[rafterman1]

"It's simply not possible to accidentaly and permanently erase emails"

Well, this is where it gets tricky. Depending on the mail system, there are rules, both on the mail servers and the workstations that determine when and how email is deleted. After you delete a message, it can be set on the client to be deleted immediately or they go to a "deleted" box. Or you can move it to another "folder" for safekeeping, like in Microsoft's Exchange/Outlook. You can also store messages you save on the server or in a personal file on the workstation.

Even if you delete a message, depending on how the server is configured, the emails (which are stored on the server) can be cached for a while until they are automatically deleted permanently, usually in one month. But government agencies I guess are required to keep messages for a long time. And even if the cache is deleted, unless the hard drives are destroyed, there are forensics tools that can be used to recover deleted data, even on reformatted drives.

So while it's not possible to accidentally erase emails permanently (unless you are a complete idiot), you can, however, set email handling rules up that essentially will do it for you - a way of skirting the law and saying "I didn't know". But since most organizations will not take setting up email handling rules lightly, you have to think there was something suspicious and deliberate going on here.

[inventagod]

Nothing Karl Rove does is accidental.

[stevex47]

What's funny, is they pull off these criminal stunts on a daily basis now, and they still point fingers at Clinton, and will continue to blame the dem's for everything gone wrong.