Comments on: McCain: Iraq War "Necessary And Just"

GOP Senator Looks To Jump Start Presidential Campaign With Strong Defense Of Bush Policy

[me4prezz]

McCain, for all his military experience, is missing the boat.

Americans are upset at being lied to. Americans are upset at being miseld. Americans are upset at being manipulated. Americans are upset at watching our husbands, wives, daughters, sons, nephews, nieces, brothers, sisters being slaughtered while our government bickers over direction for the war and not letting them do their job. Americans are upset because we are not killing militants and radicalists and those are causing the damage. We are killing civilians; women, children, elderly people. We are killing a nation and for what? They did not cause 9/11. They had no weapons of mass destruction. They have nothing and they have even less now that we took what little they did have.

We cannot leave now. We are too entrapped. We would make things worse by leaving now, but we are making things worse with the mistaken belief that we are doing anything good for these people! We need to slowly withdraw and allow the Iraqis the chance to take back their country and give our country a chance to rebuild up our military that has been so swiftly destroyed.

Thank you Senator McCain, but that is what is so upsetting.

[me4prezz]

You want to know how to overthrow a government and gain a dictatorship? You have a horrific event in a country and you tell the people, in their time of greatest need, anguish, and outrage, that "they" are to blame and that "they" are the reason your loved ones are dead. Then, you offer them a way to go to war and kill them all and you keep feeding the lies to continue the slaughter. This has happened time and again throughout history and Bush manipulated us all after 9/11 (For the conspiratory theorists out there, no Bush did not plan 9/11. I do, however, believe that he had found the perfect outlet for this war and used 9/11 as a weapon against ourselves) into a war that he wanted.

I do not know about you, but I really do not like being manipulated. I do not like being told that my loved ones have to die to fund his personal retirement fund. I do not like receiving notes saying that another friend has died and I really do not like having not only mine, but all those around me, disbelief and distraught, ragged emotions of 9/11 twisted to serve Bush's purposes.

What more do we need for impeachment people! Come on already!

[me4prezz]

America can not impose a democracy on a nation that has no desire for democracy. We, ourselves, are fighting a tyrannical government and are not much of a democracy ourselves. If we cannot lead by example, then how can we force others to undertake a system of government we ourselves cannot maintain?

McCain is disulluisioned or earning a paycheck from Bush with the misconception that either of them have words that mean anything to the American people. We had no reason to attack Iraq. We were to attack Al Qaeda. We were to attack Osasma Bin Laden. Where are we with the capture of either of those? Nowhere. We are usurping a country for the sake of their oil fields and for the sake of corrupted governmental officials.

[me4prezz]

If he is a contender for President, he might to rethink his constant support for a President that has a strong chance of being impeached. In other words, he is "backing the wrong horse".

He lost my vote the minute he says anything about supporting the twisted beliefs of the Commander-in-Chief who commands nothing but his bank account and how much he can stuff into it.

[pakaal]

irishbitch is absolutely right, we never hear any vision of the end of the War in Iraq (other than "Freedom! Democracy! which arguably they now have), because the Bush administration has never defined it. No more terrorist deaths in Iraq at all? Is there an acceptable number of daily deaths we'll agree to allow before we bring troops home? Acceptable number of bombings? And where's the plan for government? Is it by province after all? Ethnic regions? Nobody has these answers, at least I've never heard any, at least on the Administration's side. What everyone was told was the opposite, in fact. Brigadier General Mark Scheid, commander of the Army Transportation Corps, one of the original "Generals on the Ground" was told by Rumsfeld after he asked about Phase 4 (occupation and government building) answered "I will fire the next person who asks that." In Rumsfeld's own words, "The American public will not back us if they think we are going over there for a long war."

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2006_09_03-2006_09_09.shtml#1157727623

Even if it weren't for the 3,286 dead American soldiers over there now in this war based on lies, with talk of us being there "until the job's done" while we make the mess worse, it'd be appalling enough.

[truthword]

After walking the streets of Baghdad with over 100 armed troops, blackhawk helicopters above, tanks and armored vehicles at his side... John Hanoi McCain claims he would have done it all by himself and didn't need armed guards, says he's not afraid to walk the streets anywhere in the world..... yeah right... this coward and the rest of his ilk won't even walk the streets of America without armed guards. They're even afraid of we the people, if McCain comes to your town show up with a megaphone and ask him why he needs the secret service to protect him from his own countrymen....

[toldyouso21]

"In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering%u201D when House Democrats enthusiastically passed legislation setting a timetable for a troop withdrawal, the Arizona senator told cadets at the Virginia Military Institute. "

Sorry McCain, you have ZERO credibility when it comes to telling us anything that is going on in Iraq, ya big fat liar.

[kansas1946]

I can't imagine why he thinks this stance will "invigorate" his stalled campaign. I just think he has lost it and give up. It is really sad to see this. I used to respect McCain.

[toldyouso21]

After all we can straighten all that out after we win right?Above
all else we have to win the election. To save
our country from ruination at the hands of the republicans Right?
Posted by larrymiz137 at 07:01 PM : Apr 11, 2007

If this was about Iraqi freedom, we would have asked if they wanted to be freed and if they were willing to die for that freedom. There are no people in existence that were ever invaded, bombed, killed, raped, imprisoned and occupied while the people who did it claim to "free" them. Freedom is a thing wished for, fought for AND volunteered for by a people--NOT something imposed. We put the Iraqis in the mess they are in now, the sad thing is how many pretend they have a halo and what we did and continue to do are just. The funny thing is that the same people who claim we are "freeing the Iraqis" are the same who call for their death when they resist the occupation, are the same who call them sand niqqers and mudslimes are HYPOCRITES. If you can't stop lying to the rest of us--for Pete's sake--stop lying to yourselves. This is about gaining a foothold in the ME by hook or by crook--call it what it is and stop trying to act like we ever did want to do anything decent. We have only installed puppet regimes, each time saying they were for the people--our puppets have always been brutal, and the people end up hating us and our lackeys and eventually overthrow them--we have a very long and ignominious history of this.

[toldyouso21]

Will it be better if we leave ? Or are we STUCK in a bad situation and need to make the best of it? Re-read the speech, tell us where he's wrong - but make it factual, not emotional. Then let's speak our minds to the Senator in a way that he will respect instead of ignor (you ignor those that are emotional or act like idiots - wouldn't you expect hium to ?)
Posted by speakinup at 06:28 PM : Apr 11, 2007

Here is the short answer: it will APPEAR better as long as we stay. But it will not be real and will disintegrate as soon as we leave. The idea is that we secure the area to buy the government time. We are working on the assumption that the government is cohesive and has the same goals.

Al Maliki's goal are clear...to stay in power. For that, he would keep America there to do his dirty work, be their police and hold his country together for as long as he can stay in power. Power means money and vacation homes in Jordan, it means a certain Shia elite class that is a dream of his. If we leave, what is happening bit by bit will accelerate. SAddam's capture left a vacuum and people are vyying to fill it. They do not understand or care about Democracy. They are trying to gather alliances, private armies and loyalties to rule--in the way Mesopotamia has always been ruled--by force and by ONE backed by the loyalty and power of those who serve the one.