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Votes 50-48 To Keep Withdrawal Language In War Funding Bill

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by stevex47 March 28, 2007 12:22 AM EDT
chicnlittle, well said.

I'm on the other side of the fence (liberal through and through), here's my take.

Iraqi's will celebrate in the streets the day we leave. We have to accept that.

Before that happens a multi-national group will hopefully provide support as we transition out.

At the same time, Iraq has to begin better providing for it's own security.

As painful as it will be, talk is the way out. We need help from everyone.
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by rsoxfan1123 March 28, 2007 12:21 AM EDT
chicnlittle-right now the corruption seems to be dominating the right though.
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by chicnlittle March 28, 2007 12:20 AM EDT
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You just might be right. What a mess.
Posted by chicnlittle

If you are a republican you have to recognize this for what it is- the neocons began the take over the republican party in the mid 90's and the reaction you are seeing is the reaction to the extreme right. The only hope republicans have to rebuild after they lose the '08 election is to rebuild closer to center so that they can learn to work WITH the dems instead of against. This go it alone unilateral shady oil company driven politics is fading fast.
Posted by rsoxfan1123 at 09:14 PM : Mar 27, 2007

No offense, but I just don't have it in me tonight to disect all of that. Just remember though, there's shady politics on all sides of the aisle.
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by searingtruth March 28, 2007 12:16 AM EDT
"Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a presidential hopeful, said %u201Cwe are starting to turn things around%u201D in the Iraq war"
pakaal


I actually saw an interview with an embedded reporter in Baghdad today who was flabbergasted by McCain's statement. He said the statement was "incredible", and that he could barely be heard over the gunfire behind him and the helicopters above him.

Part of McCain' statement was that their were now streets in Baghdad where Americans could walk safely without escort, so the reporter incredulously asked that McCain come over to Baghdad and show him where the streets were so that he and McCain could walk them together.

The reporter said that any foreigner, especially an American, wouldn't last more than 20 minutes alone anywhere in Baghdad, except the green zone.

What was unusual was how angry the reporter seemed to be, even though he was trying to hide it. I think it was because he was risking his life to bring the truth to America just by standing outside in Iraq, while McCain and the Republicans were once again blatantly lying about the true situation.
ST


"Evil, unchecked, spreads like cancer.
Glory at the Republican Party, unchecked, metastasized upon the soul of America."
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by rsoxfan1123 March 28, 2007 12:14 AM EDT
You just might be right. What a mess.
Posted by chicnlittle

If you are a republican you have to recognize this for what it is- the neocons began the take over the republican party in the mid 90's and the reaction you are seeing is the reaction to the extreme right. The only hope republicans have to rebuild after they lose the '08 election is to rebuild closer to center so that they can learn to work WITH the dems instead of against. This go it alone unilateral shady oil company driven politics is fading fast.
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by chicnlittle March 28, 2007 12:10 AM EDT
No, it sounds like 1973 when we were finally able to stop another ideologically-driven war that we were wrong to enter in the first place, killed thousands of people, and ended up OK because we finally got the H*ell out of there.
Posted by pakaal at 09:02 PM : Mar 27, 2007

You just might be right. What a mess.
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by pakaal March 28, 2007 12:08 AM EDT
rsoxfan1123 wrote: "Maybe we are finally learning from our mistakes to the extent that we are not letting it get as out of control as we did in Viet Nam."

Amen to that, rsoxfan1123. We do seem to be catching on faster.

And sorry, I mis-typed, we left in '75 not '73.
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by rsoxfan1123 March 28, 2007 12:08 AM EDT
It will be one of the great ironies of history the that it will be Bush that finally cuts the funding of the troops with his veto. It would seem he will run them into the dirt before he'll bring them home.
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by chicnlittle March 28, 2007 12:07 AM EDT
Have to point this out again, but the most recent poll (two weeks ago or so) says the majority of Iraqis want us out of their country, the majority think the US is making the situation worse not better, and the majority think attacks on US troops are OK.

We should pull out. They don't want us there, we don't want us there.
Posted by pakaal at 08:59 PM : Mar 27, 2007

According to many, we are the laughing stock of the world right now because of this war. What is the world going to think when we leave millions of people with no security or some sort of protection. I see the countries that hate us now, hating us even more. Does that even matter - I don't know. I'm a conservative through and through, but I just can not see any good end to this.
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by rsoxfan1123 March 28, 2007 12:05 AM EDT
No, it sounds like 1973 when we were finally able to stop another ideologically-driven war
Posted by pakaal

Maybe we are finally learning from our mistakes to the extent that we are not letting it get as out of control as we did in Viet Nam.
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