Comments on: FBI Illegally Used Patriot Act, Audit Says

Justice Department Report Claims Bureau Improperly Used Terror Bill To Obtain Private Information

[formrusmcsgt]

But by simply disregarding as many laws an they possibly can it becomes harder and harder for those who must uphold accountability to even find a place to start.
Posted by macusweil at 08:24 AM : Mar 09, 2007

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, stupify them with BS.....

[macusweil]

Bush strategy for abusing power is working so nicely!! Break one or two laws the whole world will focus on it and come down on you then you're screwed. Example in point- Nixon & Clinton.

But by simply disregarding as many laws an they possibly can it becomes harder and harder for those who must uphold accountability to even find a place to start.

[macusweil]

What a surprise Bush government abuses its powers.

To begin with it was typical GOP double speak naming of the bill. Gee let's see who voted against the Patriot Act, they must not be a patriot, give me a break!!

This abuse report is why we should not have even had a "Patriot Act." It always a very bad idea to give up our freedoms for safety , if our founding father's believed this there would be no USA. Freedom when lost is so hard to ever restore.

We won two world wars and the cold war w/o the patriot act. So far we've managed to poorly execute the war on terror even with the law. Yes there were not attacks but we had plenty of years of calm during Clinton presidency as well.

Bottom line who's to say they did not abuse the law to provide evidence for political retribution? With 20% of the cases are undocumented, those could easily be cases where they spied on war protesters, members of the DNC, anyone in the way of the neo.con political machine.

[antoniof123]

This is not finger-pointing this is an attack on liberty. What fool can ever think I will give up my freedoms for a short time. Once it is gone it is gone. This is by far the worst administration in the history of the US.

[formrusmcsgt]

Fine conducted the audit as required by Congress and over the objections of the Bush administration.

Gee, how surprising is that? Next thing you know, they'll want to hold secret hearings in Guantanamo barring the press and even representation for the accused....

[zootallures2]

When gossiping, spying, spreading rumors, and finding dirt on one another is one of the most favorite hobbies of the citizens, why would you expect the government to be different? Maybe when you quit, the government will quit. Untill then, maybe you deserve it! Oh, and have a nice day...lol!

[safari07]

Hi,
Attorney General Gonzales, should be asshamed of himself to think that the people of the world and US would fall for his explanation of the "Domestic Spying Program". Remember how the US Government yelled when the USSR was communist controled and now we have a government in the USA that is communistic. I hope Congress sides with the people of this country and disbans that program.

[searingtruth]

"Thank you. Even though neocons don't believe it's possible I'm a hard core liberal and I love my country at the same time. ..."
RandalDS

Fellow patriot, the majority of citizens in this country, on both sides and in the middle and in all parts in between, still believe in and cherish our Constitution. George Bush and Richard Cheney will be impeached, their henchmen tried, and the rule of law will be restored to this land.
ST

"Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness."
George Washington, Circular to the States, May 9, 1753

"A fondness for power is implanted, in most men, and it is natural to abuse it, when acquired."
Alexander Hamilton, The Farmer Refuted, February 23, 1775

"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants."
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1, October 27, 1787

"But the mild voice of reason, pleading the cause of an enlarged and permanent interest, is but too often drowned, before public bodies as well as individuals, by the clamors of an impatient avidity for immediate and immoderate gain."
James Madison, Federalist No. 42, January 22, 1788

"I do not reveal the unknown, only the forgotten."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[randalds]

Posted by SearingTruth at 03:01 AM : Mar 09, 2007

Thank you. Even though neocons don't believe it's possible I'm a hard core liberal and I love my country at the same time. Not in the ignorant "Love it or leave it" sense that they do, but in a very real way. That said Bush is making a huge mistake taking on the bureaucracy of the American intelligence agencies. Most of the long time civil servants and agents of these agencies are very dedicated men and women who've seen administrations come and go. Most of them love this country very much to or they wouldn't be doing the difficult job that they are. Then to have this little ignorant phony Texan pip-squeak come along and lie about them. To say to the world they gave him bad intel when they know they didn't, well they're not going to take that. Bush fu*cked up because he forgot one basic truth about the US government, it's not run by elected people. Not the president or Senators or Congress. It's run by the long time employees who come to work day after day and year after year doing their jobs the best the can because most of them believe in what this country stands for. Pi*ss them off at you own peril and that's what Bush has done. They'll take him down or out, soon I hope.

[searingtruth]

"Now the Bush Justice department is going after the FBI. ..."
RandalDS

Fellow patriot, George Washington has a few things in common with you -

"I was summoned by my country, whose voice I can never hear but with veneration and love."
George Washington, First Inaugural Address, April 30, 1789

"Interwoven as is the love of liberty with every ligament of your hearts, no recommendation of mine is necessary to fortify or confirm the attachment."
George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

"The value of liberty was thus enhanced in our estimation by the difficulty of its attainment, and the worth of characters appreciated by the trial of adversity."
George Washington, letter to the people of South Carolina, Circa 1790

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[searingtruth]

"Terror is not a guiding light."
SearingTruth

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[randalds]

Now the Bush Justice department is going after the FBI. After the Iraq war was shown to be based on lies Bush lied more and pointed the finger of blame at the CIA and said they gave him faulty intelligence when in fact they gave him correct intelligence and he and his minions cherry picked what they wanted out of it, ignored the rest and made up complete bullsh*it to fill in with. They made the mistake of pis*sing off long time CIA agents and suddenly the leaks started pouring out of that agency. Now the moron is about to make the same mistake with the FBI. These agencies are staffed with agents whop serve 20 or 30 years and just tolerate politically appointed heads. Bush would do well not to pi*ss any of them off too much as they will bite him in the as*s in the end. Then again he really is ignorant enough to do it and frankly they're the only people is the US today who really have the power to take this as*shole down...or out. I hope they do it.

[searingtruth]

"ummmm....SearingTruth
Way to rain on the best post I've made in my whole life. And thanks."
mikebeat1

Fellow patriot mikebeat1,
Your post eloquently and factually enhanced the spirit and truth of our country, and my subsequent post.

Thank you.
ST

"We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times."
George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, July 15, 1777

A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[tuckerndfw]

"...and the finger pointing continues. baaaaa baaaa (that's a sheep)

Posted by mikebeat1 at 02:22 AM : Mar 09, 2007


*ROFL*

At this point, the only supporters Bush has left are those whose brain does not function as intended, i.e., "brain dead."

Sheep are smarter than a Bush supporter.

Even those who have become extraordinarily wealthy or even more extraordinarily wealthy are abandoning him before the indictments begin when his house of cards collapses.

[mikebeat1]

ummmm....SearingTruth
Way to rain on the best post I've made in my whole life. And thanks.

[searingtruth]

Mirror

My friends, sometimes the most difficult thing about fighting evil is realizing that it actually exists, and then unambiguously and forcefully calling it what it is.

History shows time and time again that one of evils greatest strengths is its ability to disguise itself as good, or at least a temporary necessity, until that last fatal moment when its revelation becomes clear, indisputable, and inescapable.

So today let us take a clear and unadulterated look into the mirror at ourselves.

Just six years ago we were one of the most respected and admired defenders of democracy and human rights in history. Respected not only by our friends, but even begrudgingly by most of our enemies. In fact, even the fantastic power of our military paled in comparison to the overwhelming might of our moral authority.

Today we are a nation that operates secret prisons occupied by anonymous inmates, illegally abducted and held indefinitely without charge or representation. We are guilty of torture. We are guilty of murder. We are guilty of preemptive war of conquest. We are guilty of the wholesale surveillance of our population, suppressing all hope of privacy and free dissent. And we are guilty of disgracing our nation through the abandonment of even our most basic precepts of morality.

If this is not evil, then nothing we have ever fought against is evil, and nothing we have ever fought for is good.
...

Excerpt from a Future of the Brave
A Future of the Brave - www.searingtruth.com

[mikebeat1]

...and the finger-pointing continues.
Posted by pakaal at 01:00 AM : Mar 09, 2007
THE FINGER POINTING CONTINUES??? You've got to be kidding me. It wasn't that long ago that the Republican Congress virtually shut down the government with a witch hunt over whether or not Clinton "lied" about his affair with Ms. Lewinsky. A 50 million dollar investigation into "whitewater" (which was mentioned ONCE in the report) all came down to lying about an affair. The religious right's favorite son. Newt Gingrich appears in the news today for admitting that he had an affair at that time too. But, he didn't lie about it. The only reason he didn't lie is because NO ONE ASKED HIM. Now, we have an administration that repeatedly lies about national security matters, leaks classified information for revenge, and invades our lives with re-interpretations of the constitution whenever it suits them. And you can reduce this entire arguement down to "...and the finger pointing continues. baaaaa baaaa (that's a sheep)

[tuckerndfw]

From the story:

"the report . . . concluded that the problems appeared to be unintentional and that FBI agents would probably face administrative sanctions instead of an indictment."

Why are goverment agents exempt from prosecution? Under the Constitution, no one is exempt from the law, including the president.

Oh, that's right, the GOP exempted themselves from the law. I forgot they anointed George Bush as their King George.

Never mind. . .

[nvme3]

The use of NSL's should not be taken lightly in light of the fact it is not reviewed by a court. Fishing expeditions into an individual's personal life is not acceptable. The framers of the constitution put in checks and balances to insure that no one would be denied life or liberty without judicial review. The agents who abuse our right should be sanctioned in order to prevent undue intrusions.

[pakaal]

...and the finger-pointing continues.