Comments on: Lieberman Could Defect To GOP Over War

Connecticut Independent's Party Switch Would Wrest Senate Control From Democrats

[notsurebut]

clemenhagen1,

As I understand it the rules are sometimes written that if the majority loses enough caucus members, then the minority is given control. These rules are only used if the majority is really slim.

[scott4261]

My instinct is that Joe Lieberman is just blowing hot air.

[observantx]

If Mr. Liebermann decides to change parties it is because he refuses to listen to the people that put him in office. As such, he has broken the trust those voters put in him. How any one of the Repugnicans can continue to cover the backside of this administration in spite of the Novemeber vote and the daily feedback they must be getting from the people in their ditricts is beyond comprehension.

If these men and women continue to obstruct what the people have clearly called for and continue to press them on; the only recourse we have is to recall them if we can and definitely give them their walking papers this coming election.

[huskerarmy]

"If the Dems worked as hard at winning the war as they do at losing it, it would be over by now!"
GOPers had control of the White House, Congress and the courts for the past six years. They started the war in Iraq and have been unable to end it. Any attempt to blame the Dems is delusional at best.

[tuckerndfw]

I failed to include Canaanites in the list of tribes that preceded Hebrews to the land most people call Palestine and Jews call Israel in my previous comment.

[dallison7]

I'm afraid you are wrong. The Jews were the original inhabitants of that area. They were defeated and dispersed by the Romans 70 AD.
Posted by prcdr at

The original inhabitants of your little piece of the world were the native Americans. GIVE IT BACK!!

[scott4261]

I have also read a post the Joe Lieberman is a "disgrace to the Independent Party*" or something to that effect....

Let's be clear here. When a politician identifies himself as "independent" in the modern era, it means that his primary identity as a politician is severed from party affiliation. However, in order to have a voice in American politics, that politician must caucus with either the Democrats or the Republicans. So far, all three independents have chosen to caucus with the Democrats.

That, of course, would change if Lieberman decides to caucus with the Republicans. My gut tells me that will not happen because, like Jefford, Lieberman has been to the left of most Republicans on social issues. And regardless of what Lieberman decides, don't look for an (R) behind his name.


* As a foonote: A Google search pulls up the American Independent Party. The party's main issue is cracking down on illegal immigration.

[tuckerndfw]

I'm afraid you are wrong. The Jews were the original inhabitants of that area. They were defeated and dispersed by the Romans 70 AD.

Posted by prcdr at 09:07 AM : Feb 23, 2007

Really? Ever read your bible? A history book? Wikipedia?

According to Hebrew legends, Israelis (Jews, Hebrews, Abram's brats, whatever) were preceded by Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Deuteronomy 7:1).

Since we are basing land titles on fairy tales, to make it easier, we'll just call the aforementioned 7 groups "Palestinians" so it all works out.

BTW, Romans expelled Jews from the Roman province of Judea in 135 CE.

[bluestardad]

DON%u2019T BE A PUNK! Write Lieberman, tell him your views on his traitorous actions! Email your senators and representatives and tell them your views! http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_in
formation/senators_cfm.cfm or http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

[notblue]

If the Dems worked as hard at winning the war as they do at losing it, it would be over by now!

[bluestardad]

Joe Lieberman is once again threatening to betray the trust of those people of Connecticut and America who elected him to office as a Senator. It is clear that he is not focusing on the interest of the American People and is only concerned with the interest of Israeli Policy against Iran and Iraq. Lieberman has demonstrated many times that he does not care for the people of Connecticut or America by constantly supporting policies of Israel over the greater good of America and her people who voted him in office. If he switches to the Republican party is there a way the people of Connecticut can hold a special election and run a candidate against him to remove him from office?

[crater7]

THE ADMINISTRATION VOWED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LATEST INTEL. REPORT, THAT IRAN HAD INSTALLED THIS NEW WEAPON SYSTEM CALLED THE "MC MISSILE". SOURCES SAY THAT NO ROCK WILL BE UNTURNED UNTIL THIS WEAPON IS FOUND. WILL ASK CONGRESS FOR BILLIONS TO FUND THIS LATEST SEARCH FOR WMD'S.

[nvme3]

I could care less about the palestinian or the isreal causes. Let them fight or get along. I DONT CARE. What I care about is America,beginning,middle and end. Yes Isreal is an ally fine. Lets lovingly tell them we are done with militaristic adventures in the middle east. They need to make their own peace. and senator palpatine/Lieberman is a turncoat I thought it ridiculous him winning the nomination for VP in 2000 but it was basically a party decision a **** poor one at that. at last count 3149 american soldier are DEAD . 3149 american families are affected. over 28,000 are seriously injured. the crown jewel of our military hospitals WALTER REED MEDICAL is squalid at best. claims of rodent infestations and roaches are rampant. (NICE TO SEE HOW NEOCONS SUPPORT THE TROOPS). HOW MANY MORE LIVES WILL IT TAKE TO APPEASE YOU NEOCON? HOW MUCH MORE MONEY MUST YOU MAKE OFF THIS ********* WAR ? TELL ME I WILL PAY I WILL GET MY CHECKBOOK AND ENCOURAGE ANYONE WITH EARS TO PAY TO GET YOU TO STOP THIS HEMORRAGING OF OUR BEAUTIFUL AMERICAN STOCK.

[briannorwood]

Hey Leiberman,

Go ahead and defect. Your political career is dead anyway. When the Dems capture more seats in 2008, you will surely be stripped of any committees and chairs you were able to negotiate yourself into this session.

You will soon be an irrelavent has-been.

[tuckerndfw]

tuckerndfw: Please tell me where it says that it the Hague Conventions, because I'm at a lost to find it.

Posted by jdweymouth at 08:22 AM : Feb 23, 2007



Hague Convention (1899) SECTION III. -- ON MILITARY AUTHORITY OVER HOSTILE TERRITORY

Is an entire section that details the restrictions on conversion of property.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/lawofwar/hague02.htm

Here it is stated a bit more xuccinctly:

Excerpted from:

United Nations Security Council Resolution 242
NOVEMBER 22, 1967

"Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war . . . "

Source: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/un242.htm

There is nothing to argue. UNSCR 242 states the case very plainly and I accept their word over yours.

[briannorwood]

Is there a way to recall a Massachusetts Senator (like they did to the California Governor)?

[scott4261]

The Dems, and libs didn't mind when Bernard Sanders (I-VT) defected to the independent party. He was originally a republican, but went defected to the Independent Party immediately after the race, and gave the dems the control of the Senate until 2002.....

Posted by jdweymouth at 10:29 PM : Feb 22, 2007

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First of all, I would do a little more research before making a post. James Jefford left the Republican Party in May 2001 with the statement, "In order to best represent my state of Vermont, my own conscience and principles I have stood for in my whole life, I will leave the Republican Party and become an independent." That DID give the Senate to the Democrats until January 2003 because he caucused with the Democrats. He is typical of many northeastern Republicans: fiscally conservative, liberal on social issues. He served in the U.S. Senate until January 2007. U.S. Rep. Bernie Sanders (I) won the election to replace Jefford last November.

[grumpas]

Lieberman has become a nasty little man who is a spoiler as far as a lot of us are concerned! It wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings if he became a Republican...he has been one for years anyway! He has always placed Israel's welfare above that of his own country! Proving once more religion should be left out of politic's! I guess Republican's are more interested in traitor's than they are patriot's! So, I say good riddance to bad rubbish!

[scott4261]

This feeds into right-wing nutjob denial. A Republican Joe Lieberman re-enforces their twisted denial. Many of them seem to think that Rudy Gulianni is going to be elected President, win back the congress, and save the country from all of us errant liberal Democrats! Fits into their US VS. THEM, politics as sports mentality.

Oh, neo-cons....when are you ever going to learn? There is no THEM. There's only US. The UNITED STATES of America.

[scott4261]

The Dems, and libs didn't mind when Bernard Sanders (I-VT) defected to the independent party. He was originally a republican, but went defected to the Independent Party immediately after the race, and gave the dems the control of the Senate until 2002.....

Posted by jdweymouth at 10:29 PM : Feb 22, 2007

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First of all, I would do a little more research before making a post. James Jefford left the Republican Party in May 2001 with the statement, "In order to best represent my state of Vermont, my own conscience and principles I have stood for in my whole life, I will leave the Republican Party and become an independent." That DID give the Democrats until January 2003 because he caucused with the Democrats. He is typical of many northeastern Republicans: fiscally conservative, liberal on social issues. He served in the U.S. Senate until January 2007. U.S. Rep. Bernie Sanders (I) won the election to replace Jefford last November.