Comments on: Senate's Iraq Debate Ends In Deadlock

Democrats Fall 4 Votes Short Of Moving Forward With Resolution

[scott4261]

You people won't fully realize that the GOP is rotting from the inside until after the 2008 elections - when the only branch the Republicans will have is the Judical branch. And I'm sure that many of the conservative judges Bush has appointed will declare war on America with a different kind of "judicial activism" - from the right! I'm sure you and singinrick are really looking forward to that show.....

[lars008-2009]

I took the canal zone and let Congress debate, and while the debate goes on the canal does also. - Berkeley, California March 23, 1911 Theodore Roosevelt

[scott4261]

Ol Teddy was instrumental in starting a war in Panama so he could build his canal--Look it up.
Posted by thgdriver at 08:27 PM

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I'm fully aware of Panama. But it's a leap to say he would make the same decisions if he were in Bush's shoes in regard to Iraq. In fact, I doubt ANY of the previous presidents would have.

[lars008-2009]

teddy did exactly that......... when ion pedecaris was kidnapped in morocco....

[thgdriver]

Ol Teddy was instrumental in starting a war in Panama so he could build his canal--Look it up.

[scott4261]

You did not bring up Nixon what the hel! was this??

"Nixonian" levels. The long national nightmare we are in cannot be over soon enough".
Posted by thgdriver at 08:19 PM

Fair enough. And fitting that his approval rating is as low, because Bush IS the worst president of the modern era - and maybe even the worst in the history of this great country.

[thgdriver]

profits non the less, all with A friend in the White House.

[scott4261]

clinton was halliburton's best customer........
http://www.google.com/
search?hl=en&q=clinton+halliburton
Posted by lars008 at 08:21 PM

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No bid contracts? Billions down a black hole, as in Iraqi levels?

[scott4261]

I doubt Teddy would be. Must study of U.S. History leads me to thwe conclusion that he would never have started this war.

[lars008-2009]

clinton was halliburton's best customer........
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=clinton+halliburton

[thgdriver]

scott4261

You did not bring up Nixon what the hel! was this??

"Nixonian" levels. The long national nightmare we are in cannot be over soon enough".

[lars008-2009]

nope...... it was clinton....

[scott4261]

I see nothing wrong with quoting great leaders, you did it yourself with Ike. If you think no one made any profits during Vietnam, Korea, WW2, (all at times with a Demoncrat in office) you are truly dreaming.
Posted by thgdriver at 08:14 PM

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NONE of the those contracts were no bid and NONE FLEECE TENS OF BILLIONS from the American taxpayers. I am amazed that you can turn a blind eye to that.

[lars008-2009]

To sit home, read one's favorite paper, and scoff at the misdeeds of the men who do things is easy, but it is markedly ineffective. It is what evil men count upon the good men's doing. - The Outlook December 21, 1895 Theodore Roosevelt

[scott4261]

Most forget it was under his (Nixon's)administration that "Johnson's" war in Vietnam was ended and our troops/POWs were brought home
Posted by thgdriver
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thgdriver,

I didn't bring up Nixon, but since you did: Nixon promised to get us out of Vietnam in '68, but instead, he escalated the conflict. We did not start recovering from Vietnam until after Gerald Ford became president.

The only difference I see between Nixon and most others is, he did not cover his as$ well enough.
Posted by thgdriver

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Of course Watergate is what brought him down. And I don't care that he didn't cover his a s s, he should've been broght down. The only modern day president more corrupt is the current occupant of the White House.

[thgdriver]

I see nothing wrong with quoting great leaders, you did it yourself with Ike. If you think no one made any profits during Vietnam, Korea, WW2, (all at times with a Demoncrat in office) you are truly dreaming.

[lars008-2009]

ike maybe, not teddy...

%u201CIt is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.%u201D Theodore Roosevelt

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." (1891) Theodore Roosevelt

"Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the danger." (1894) Theodore Roosevelt

[scott4261]

And I'm sure Ike is rolling in his grave at all the profit being made in the name of "bringing democracy to the Middle East." And I find it interesting that you keep quoting Theodore Roosevelt, a great president and one who I am sure - along with Eisenhower - would be appalled at this war.

[thgdriver]

scott4261

The only difference I see between Nixon and most others is, he did not cover his as$ well enough.

Most forget it was under his administration that "Johnson's" war in Vietnam was ended and our troops/POWs were brought home

[scott4261]

Many of the 21,500 soldiers are already on their 4th and 5th deployments! And for what???

And most military commanders say the escalation WILL NOT WORK. This is too little, too late.

Why were suggestions in the Iraq Study Group Report not viable options?