Comments on: Gay Marriage Group Tries New Tactic

Seeks Measure Mandating That Married Couples Have Children Within 3 Years

[global_chick]

oh ok there global chick!
what's so global about you ?

why should i, with my tax dollars, fund your heterosexual spousal benefits ?????????

you disgust me! you piggy !

Answer: Because I'm married. That's why. : )

[global_chick]

Susan,

Are you saying then we should all have a "tolerance test?" If I want to be an idiot who hates dogs, the color green, snow in winter or sun in the summer or disagrees with homosexuality, that is my right. You can legislate or force "tolerance." It is America, and no matter what your views are, heinous or not heinous, they are still protected.

With all due respect, it has nothing to do with "tolerance" or loving others. It has to do with reprogramming. Most people cannot "opt out" if they want to keep their job, or want to avoid being branded a "narrow-minded bigot." Students are also forced into this training. Check out the link below:

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20157

[mbolton7]

oh ok there global chick!
what's so global about you ?

why should i, with my tax dollars, fund your heterosexual spousal benefits ?????????

you disgust me! you piggy !

[susanhelit]

Domestic Partner benefits I can get rid of. All you have to do is agree to legalize gay marriage! grin

As to taxes paying for things you don't agree with - hey, everyone has that. Vegetarians would rather not pay for the meat in our kids lunches at school. Pacifists don't want to pay for our military. Childless couples don't know why they have to pay for our children. Young people figure they'll work forever and don't want to pay social security. Sorry.

[susanhelit]

If you can display tolerance, then tolerance training isn't required. Currently schools let parents opt out of what they want, so I don't see your problem there. Public institutions like libraries are supposed to be there for everyone, so I can't see that you've got a case there. For namecalling - it's hard to prevent idiots on all sides from getting heated and throwing whatever name comes first to mind.

Can you display tolerance? Treat a gay man in the workplace (for whatever reason lesbians seem to be much less a problem), as if he's any other man? He might have a picture of another man on his desk, rather than his wife, but other than that, he'll work just like anyone else.

[getcentered]

If this argument WAS secular in nature, then all should agree, right?

Do we all agree that: "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is the right of every citezen of the United States?

I would say Myth has far more power in this discution then secular philosophies.

[global_chick]

Oh, and Susan, if you could also stop forcing taxpayers to ante up for "domestic partner" benefits they don't agree with and would rather not pay for. That'd be great. Thanks!

[susanhelit]

getcentered - do you really think anyone, after all this time, after all this effort, is going to smack their heads and go, "oh, my, god, it's all just a myth!"?

Whatever it is, a great many believe in varying versions of it. Which means that as a society, we have to work with it, not expect it to go away (not to mention they have you massively outnumbered). The founding fathers had it right, setting up the government as separate from the church - and I think that's a very wise decision. We all think we know what the truth is, what is best - and we can't all be right.

[global_chick]

You're not being asked to be a doormat, nor to act on the whims of others. Merely not to push your way in to others lives, particularly in the secular realm - in this case, the secular side of marriage, which is all about legal issues.

Agreed....but only if:

You agree not to force children in public schools to undergo "tolerance" training
You agree not to force adults to undergo "tolerance" training in the workplace
Stop threatening public institutions like libraries which refuse to display pro-homosexual books and materials.
You stop calling me an "intolerant bigot" simply because I disagree with you.

The homosexual agenda is infilitrating all our lives.

[getcentered]

First,

I've judged no one.

Second,

My comments might seem inflammatory to some, but they are certainly NOT ignorant.

Ignorance is a communal denouncement of someone else%u2019s philosophy based on a MYTH.

Here's the definition of Myth:
1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.

2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.

[susanhelit]

You're not being asked to be a doormat, nor to act on the whims of others. Merely not to push your way in to others lives, particularly in the secular realm - in this case, the secular side of marriage, which is all about legal issues.

[wadyaknow]

global chick you are not worth my time
You people took up enough of my childhood and adult life with physical and mental abuse - away with you!

[global_chick]

I don't recall any law trying to outlaw homosexuality, just homosexual "marriage." Have all the *** you want. See Lawrence v. Texas.

[global_chick]

I get the feeling that liberals expect Christians to roll over and die anytime they are challenged on any issue, out of "love." However, Christ does not expect us to be doormats acting on the whims of others:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34.

[wadyaknow]

"All I am saying is that the virus would NOT be as widespread if it were not for homosexuality. Period. Plain and simple."

And all I am saying isw that as long as there are people like you out there, many will have to hide their feelings and have hidden *** resulting in AIDS!

[dallison7]

All I am saying is that the virus would NOT be as widespread if it were not for homosexuality. Period. Plain and simple.
Posted by global_chick

You know what. Tell that to the millions of Africans who carry the virus. That's where most of them are, you know.

[diverinnl]

Getcentered, YOUR concept of GOD IS MYTH, not mine.

For you to judge me based on my faith structure is no better than judging me based on any other discriminating factor. You making absolute statements about a God that you do not believe in are both inflammatory and ignorant.

As I've posted, and I hope you've read, I too feel our laws should be completely secular. That in itself would protect my right to practice my faith as I see fit as well as provide the right of those who feel differently, be they straight or not.

[global_chick]

So IF everyone is susceptible to it...then why isn't 50 million significant to everyone.
Posted by jh6379 at 04:17 PM : Feb 06, 2007

All I am saying is that the virus would NOT be as widespread if it were not for homosexuality. Period. Plain and simple.

[susanhelit]

You know, reading these boards, I have the chorus of a hymn we sung often in church running through my head:

And they'll know we are Christians by our love, by our love! Yes they'll know we are Christians by our love.

[dallison7]

The Bible is an ancient text. There is no mention of many things modern in the Bible; abortion, stem cell research etc. If we are to base our 21st century social structure on the bible, we will need an updated text.