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by lestb35 January 9, 2007 4:50 PM EST
Randal, we should get together and start a business hiring semi-retired people exclusively. They have so much to offer our society and are usually the best employees. I've heard the govt. is coming out with new tax incentives for small manufacturing and production companies.
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by lestb35 January 9, 2007 4:46 PM EST
Randal, I see the lower middle class struggling more than the poor. Let me explain. They are trying to hold on to property, and credit and not slip into poverty which would be not owning anything and signing up for free govt. surplus. It's like we have two Americas those of us who are trying to hold onto the original self sufficient personal ownership America and those who have slipt below the line and depend on the govt. for everything. No judgement here just an observation. In fact I would say rather than struggle ones entire life trying to keep afloat, I'd say sell everything and go completely dependent on the US govt if your pride can take it.
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by randalds January 9, 2007 4:40 PM EST
I've come out of semi-retirement recently and taken a job at a supermarket to have something to do. It's strange because they know I don't need the job to get by and they treat me very different then the ones who need the job to pay bills or to just survive. It seems to me that corporate America has lost so much respect for the people who do the day to day back-breaking work that keeps our nation functioning. I'm thinking of quitting. Not because the work is too hard (I actually love hard work), but because I feel guilty for taking a job someone else might need and because I can't stand to watch how management abuses their need to keep this job. There is a class war coming.
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by randalds January 9, 2007 4:31 PM EST
Yes lestb35, but the goal is to find a way to eliminate the poor altogether. Via a humane way of course and not the Bush/republican way of just wasting them all. LOL!

Anyway the elimination of poverty is obviously feasible. I mean it's not like America doesn't have the money or resources to do it. The distribution of that money and resources is the issue.
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by lestb35 January 9, 2007 4:26 PM EST
Randal, really the argument for the "poor", is overused. The poor in this country are pretty well cared for the biggest problem for them is sorting through the miriad of programs but once they're in they are well provided for and pay no federal taxes especially if they have dependants. The Earned Income Credit is basically a bonus check without having to pay any income tax.
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by lestb35 January 9, 2007 4:23 PM EST
If we have to raise taxes on the wealthy in order to stop borrowing ourselves into oblivion, then so be it.
Posted by frankly6 at 11:25 AM : Jan 09, 2007

They're saying we're at the lowest tax rate we'll ever see in our lifetime.Kind of makes you want to cash in your IRA's now and pay the penalty. Well, if they're going to raise taxes on the middle class and lower middle class we'll be working until we're 80 to pay off our houses and equity loans.
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by randalds January 9, 2007 4:22 PM EST
Randal, do you really want the govt. to own your home? Sounds almost unAmerican.
Posted by lestb35 at 01:19 PM : Jan 09, 2007

You're right. I didn't express that well. It should have been something more along the line of "government provided". To those who can't afford there own that is and for them to own. The point is that basic housing should be a right. Just as basic health care, food, etc.
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by lestb35 January 9, 2007 4:19 PM EST
Randal, do you really want the govt. to own your home? Sounds almost unAmerican.
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by lestb35 January 9, 2007 4:15 PM EST
If we just taxed corporations without all the tax incentives wouldn't be ahead. It would probably hurt the stock market initially but who cares.
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by randalds January 9, 2007 4:14 PM EST
Try this: "I believe charging different prices for my customers based on their different abilities to pay is the fairest." How many businesses would stay in business with this philosophy (yes, hospitals are forced to act this way by law)?

Posted by OlGreyGhost at 01:08 PM : Jan 09, 2007

Oh and when it comes to basic necessities of life, housing, food, utilities, etc., I think these should be government owned and controlled and distributed and charged on an ability to pay.
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