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Visiting Baghdad, Senator Says Up To 30,000 U.S. Troops Needed To Stabilize Iraq
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- Actually, the "majority" of Iraquis are VERY happy to be rid of Saddam.. It is the minority, who lost their power with his ouster, and alien fighters, who are causing the problems...
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- I am sure that the attitude of the american people would change greatly if they were not so shelterd...let the secret police come crashing through their doors in the wee hours of the morning, raping their women and assasinating their men....
Posted by RANGER75TH81 at 03:11 PM : Dec 14, 2006
Seems to me that there are some of our troops on trial for doing that exact same thing. 99.9% of our troops are honorable and doing their best in an unwinnable war, but this just shows you can't tar everyone with the same brush. The vast majority of Iraqi's just want to live peaceful lives, but we bombed them and gave them a civil war. I'm sure they're going to just love us for that. - Reply to this comment
- I am sure that the attitude of the american people would change greatly if they were not so shelterd...let the secret police come crashing through their doors in the wee hours of the morning, raping their women and assasinating their men....
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- RANGER75TH81
I respect your right to your opinion and can I just state that I will not descend to targeting you with personal insults...
I think you forget that in 1941 we went to war against an enemy that attacked us first... you may also realise that in 1941 civilised nations were essentially in a war of survival against Nazism... in summary 1941 was a war of necessity ...not choice
In contrast Iraq did not attack US... Iraq posed no threat to the US... the case for war against Iraq was confected for reasons of neo-colonialism and strategic dominance... you may or may not recall that North Korea was the greatest geo-political threat we faced before and after 9/11... and as for freedom and democracy... what about the long-suffering Burmese, North Koreans or Saudi's?
If Iraq has become a "problem" for us it is one we ourselves have created... we broke it remember? Iraq was not a haven for terrorists before we got there... we created it remember? Now in order to prop up its failed policy and save its reputation... the administration continues to talk up a threat....
Lies got us into Iraq and lies will keep us there.... - Reply to this comment
- What a Dweeb. He is looking for the Bush Vote. Get out of Iraq or someone could stick a bayonet in your other foot.
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- Well Randal, I am sure the FAMILIES of the Kurdish people who were gassed to death by the *** SADDAM would concur with you immediatly.... Thank you cav scout for laying it out, I could not have said it better myself.
Posted by RANGER75TH81 at 03:02 PM : Dec 14, 2006
I'm sure they're just as thrilled to know that the US (under Reagen and with the help of Donal Rumsfeld) sold Saddam the ingredients in the gas. Saddam was only supposed to use it on the Iranians, but hey thems the breaks, right? Sometimes your puppet doesn't always do what you want it to do. - Reply to this comment
- Well Randal, I am sure the FAMILIES of the Kurdish people who were gassed to death by the *** SADDAM would concur with you immediatly.... Thank you cav scout for laying it out, I could not have said it better myself.
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- Keep your head down cavalrysct It'd be a shame if you got killed in vain like everyone else who has died in this war.
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- The members of the greatest generation in the 1930's and '40's fought a genuine war of freedom against a worldwide evil. It was a noble and honorable fight. The war in Iraq has no resemblance to that war at all beyond the fact that people are dying. The war in Iraq is a filthy little war of conquest. An armed robbery in which our troops have been cynically used as nothing more then a gun or club to try to mug Iraq with. It's based on lies and deception from the highest level of our government and it's sole purpose was to steal oil and because Bush wanted to show his daddy that he's not really the family screw up. That he can be as good of a son as his brother Jeb in daddy's eyes. Of course his true character (or rather lack of) has shown through. He really is a complete ****k up who is in way over his head. There is nothing noble or honorable about it.
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- OK. I am a soldier and I cannot wait to go to Iraq. I for one want to do my part instead of whining like a child behind a rock. I'm so sick of liberal BS, Were there because we want to be no one has to hold a gun to my head or order me to go I am more than happy too and my Friends, "Both Marines" are going for there second terms. We are all field combatants and we all agree that our job is in Iraq. Its what we want to do. So all these news reports and liberal LIARS! can stop posting stories about how 3 soldiers in 300,000 committed war crimes. or how 2 guys from minnesota have mentall issues since returning from war. THEY DID NOT BELONG ON A BATTLEFIELD! if you cant handle it then dont join to start. Bottom line is we are not there because we have to be we are there because we choose to be and we are doing good. so take your liberal BS home.
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- I am sure glad you snivelling worms weren't around circa 1941, we would ALL be running around saying "heil hitler" ,unless, of course, you are Jewish......
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- The saddest thing of all is that when people are desperate they do desperate things... here the cost of desperation is the blood of heroes...
When is enough enough? 3,000 US dead? 10,000? 50,000?... we have created a language around war that makes it impossible to clearly appreciate the consequences of our actions... civillian casulaties are described as "collateral damage" ... we even use Hollywood style promos such as "Shock & Awe" to describe the brutality of war... in the 21st century "precision strikes" & "smart weapons" create the impression that war is clean-cut.... we even sanitise the reporting of it and shield our eyes from the dismembered corpses and burning bodies...
No wonder it has taken the American public so long to wake up to the madness of this enterprise... Iraq is a pile of rubble....
At a point in time... maybe not today, mabye not tomorrow...but sometime soon.. we will need to decide whether it is worth one more American life.... - Reply to this comment
- Posted by heetseeker at 01:30 PM : Dec 14, 2006
Heet--good blog. You are no dummy.
I find it odd and irritating that someone like Heetseeker can put into simple understandable context what politicians openly and professionally rangle with.
What happens to politicians to create them to be so completely and maddeningly ignorant? Ignorant to a dangerous degree for our people and our country. - Reply to this comment
- McCain was and still is a hero for his service, but this time he has gone around the bend. More troops is only like pouring more salt into the raw wound that we sliced open in the country. It's also pouring salt into the wound this incredibly stupid and wasteful war has opened up in our own country. It seems Bush and McCain won't be happy until there are riots in the streets here as well ala 1965-1973. The worst part is that even he probably doesn't believe this is an answer, but is doing it only to play to the extreme right wing base. He has finally become a total sell-out to that sick and discredited side.
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- No better than Walking-Liar at all. What needs to be done is a complete pull-out. The natural populations equilibrium will be established, naturally. Populations equilibrium is to be reached naturally. In all human population dynamics, it's been seen so often, minorities are a little bit favored over the majority. Naturally, minorities individuals perform always better and harder than their counter-parts from majority.
Not to be sarcastic, but the initial state was not best, but not bad neither. Sunni minorities had the high hand over the shiite majority. Garanteed a security in the Iraqi constitution. It may not be the best solution, but every population has its particular needs and Democracy (the way we see it in USA) may not necessarily be applicable elsewhere.
The ultimate goal of the invasion of Iraq under walking-liar administration was not the well being of the Shiite Iraqis. (don't think Walking-Liar is too keen on fighting for those guys to get them democracy...)
No need for our troops to pay the price for setting the traffic and simple security of Iraqis. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by heetseeker at 01:30 PM : Dec 14, 2006
Heetseeker, I think your missile is right on target to hit McCain's overly fat chin. LOL - Reply to this comment
- More troops in Iraq. McCain must be crazy. That would do no good; and let us face facts, the armed forces are already overstretched. It is time to be realistic, and admit we have had four years of failure, and this is the moment to allow the Iraqis to decide what will happen in their own country .... Time to start pulling all foreign troops put.
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- Yes, let us send more troops and train more Iraqi security forces. AFTER ALL IT WORKED SO WELL IN VIETNAM!
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- "Grasping at straws"
Well... one has to credit Sen McCain for at least having the courage to offer an alternative way forward in Iraq... unfortunately, his proposal to increase troop numbers seems like a desperate last throw of the dice... Effectively he is suggesting that we should seek to achieve through force what we and others have failed to achieved through mediation, compromise and negotiation...
In Iraq, we have achieved a unique "double"... combining smart bombs with dumb thinking... the Iraq war is not a conflict that can be won militarily.... after 4 years in this swamp, we ought to have realised that?
More US troops will only increase the sense of occupation in Iraq, harden the armed oppposition to us and attract greater numbers of terrorists and killers... Iraq will effectively become target practice ... us on them and them on us...
There are many hard decisions to be made in Iraq... some are military for sure... but most are political... listen to the commanders on the ground.... they are not asking for more troops.... perhaps they themselves have realised that the war in Iraq will not be won in the battlefield...
If well meaning McCain gets his way the profligacy and arrogance of current Iraq policy will be replaced by one of rank stupidity... - Reply to this comment
- Let's send mad man McCain to Iraq. LOL
The Vietnamese allowed him to live; but he still has no appreciation for human life. What a wasted lesson. Tsk-tsk - Reply to this comment
