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Under Increased Pressure, Bush Says Only Victory Will Get U.S. Out Of Iraq

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by akarsno November 29, 2006 12:44 AM EST
Can't you not see the damage that is being done already to so many lives?
If you look at history each country had to go to regime cahnge in what ever manner you may call it but it took the people in that country to make the change and not outsiders!
Only they have that choice and if they are not brave enought to do it .... there is nothing we can do about it.
They have to work it out themselves, not those that are sacrificing their lives for them!
There is only so much good you can do for one nation! It may seem fruitless or it may seem worth while at that time, which ever it is we gave it a chance, now ... it is time for change and we need to pull out!
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by akarsno November 29, 2006 12:40 AM EST
Enough American blood has been spilled! Please and what ever nation that is tryig to help in Iraq.
Let their own people fight for themselves for a change. Their have their own rights too, if they want to live in world where they are muslims. I am tired of hearing why the west has to help them or any other nation.
Only the people in that country can revolt their own goverment and make the changes.
That is how a democratic society takes place even if it takes a hundred years for them to change or a thousand ... it is their choice and not ours to make for them.
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by akarsno November 29, 2006 12:36 AM EST
I think it is time the troops came home!
This is like vietnam! They don't want change and it is not going to happen if the people themselves do not get involved.
It is like history repeating itself!
Please wake up the iraq people. If they want their freedom as a democratic society .. they have to do it themselves.
Each country had to do it that way with the people voting and being sacrifice on their won accord.
America cannot do it for them!
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by jumkey November 29, 2006 12:36 AM EST
The sooner this imbecile accepts that no one cares what he thinks the better. The problem has been taken out of this failure's hands.

Ash heap of history for you *******.

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by gdmoore2 November 29, 2006 12:34 AM EST
If Bush will not pull out the troops, then perhaps it is time to pull out Bush. There are certainly more serious grounds to impeach Bush than there ever were against Bill Clinton.
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by mh4cbs1 November 29, 2006 12:34 AM EST
You folks that keep saying Bush is dumb or crazy or can't face reality etc., are simply missing the main event!

Sure, Bush isn't all that bright. But that is one of the reasons, in addition to his last name, that he is the front man for Cheney and the NeoCon extremists who hijacked the GOP. They play Bush like a song, keeping him in the dark, helping him figure out what to say, playing on his ineptitude, feeding his need to play'tough-guy','cowboy' etc., etc.,

The real story here is that the PNAC NeoCon clan drives our foreign policy. These people are not stupid or naive. They are ruthless militarists, who are not afraid to lie, manipulate and assert extreme executive power to assert their "new world order". (I'm not making this up, if you don't believe me, read it in their own words, Google 'PNAC').

The dead troops and dead civilians are a calculated cost that they are willing to pay to achieve a permanent presence in Iraq with access and control of the Oil. And the cost is only a poltical cost to them. After all it is OUR money they are spending. Most NeoCons are making fortunes in Haliburton, Carlyle, defense indsutry stock. And it is (in their view) merely the middleclass sucker kids that are dying in Iraq, not their own privileged clan.

Cheney and the NeoCons are the main event. This is why they will NEVER leave unless they are absolutely forced to.

Getting the Picture?
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by mh4cbs1 November 29, 2006 12:10 AM EST
When are people going to "GET IT"?

Bush and Cheney will NEVER leave Iraq without some stooge regime that gives our corporations access to the OIL and our military permanent presence. Democracy? you think they care? these are the guys who backed their friend Sadddam in the 80's! "Democracy" was the only thing left to try to hype the War after their WMD lies were exposed.

The needless Iraq Invasion is all part of the NeoCon grand plan, which they documented in their own words in 1997(Google 'PNAC' and look who signed it). This gang exploited 9-11 to scare and lie their way into Iraq, pulling troops from Afghanistan and letting Osama walk.

What? You have no "Stomach for the War" as Mr. '5-Deferment' Cheney sneers at his peace-loving critics. So easy for these NeoCon thugs to use our middle class kids as cannon fodder for their imperial wars. 3,000 dead soldiers, thousands more maimed for life. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians slain, hundreds of Billions of OUR money wasted. Who suffers War, and who Profits from War? Figure it out yet?

Impeach Bush? Obviously!, But then JAIL BUSH, CHENEY and their treasonous gang of murdering thugs.

Do it in the name of every dead US soldier, every soldier with missing limbs, brain damage from IEDs. Do it for the hundreds of thousands dead Iraqi civilians.

The death and destruction unleashed by Bush and Cheney is 100 times the horror of Osama. Face the FACTS and JAIL BUSH.
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by elgraz November 29, 2006 12:01 AM EST
I think that our loco President has been exposed to too much nucular or is it nuclear waste....of the mental kind. Giuliani or not you Republicans better find another job in 2008.....maybe volunteer in the Armed Forces, Peace Corps in Dafur or beach boys in Lagos, Nigeria. They could all use some cooks.
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by rainingwolf3 November 29, 2006 12:00 AM EST
I used to think Bush was just incompetant. Now I think the man is just plain evil.
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by elgraz November 28, 2006 11:55 PM EST
We should kick Bush's arse out of the Office. What a moron and to think that we have 2 more years to endure his stupidity. If there is a God, save us.
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by getcentered November 28, 2006 11:53 PM EST
"bushrocks1" is as out of touch as the complete idiots that put us in the war in Iraq.

"An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East"
Bushrocks1, what is Israel? It is in the Middle East, is it not a democracy?

"They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one."

First of all the Bush Administration new plenty about what was going to happen if we went to war with Iraq, and with that knowledge what did they do? They sent way to few troops to begin with. When the majority of US war planners said it would take 300,000 to 400,000 troops, we sent only 140,000. Also, when it was time for diplomacy to get support from the world, our President and the most cursory and secretive administration in history took a bullies stance and ignored the opinions of many of our allies.

See, the fools wanting this war in Iraq needed it to begin quickly for POLITICAL REASONS ONLY. If we did not rush into going to war then the dissent in America (which is about half of us, "traitors") would have actually had a voice, and the war in Iraq might have never come to pass.

I WANT FAMILY OF MINE TO COME HOME ALIVE FROM IRAQ. I NEVER WANT CURSORY LEADERS PUTTING MY FAMILIY IN HARMS WAY, WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHY OR FOR DISPUTED REASONS.

Shame on Republicans for their lack of imagination, their poor performance as leaders and their willful ignorance when adapting policies that effect the lives of every American.
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by bushrocks1 November 28, 2006 11:51 PM EST
Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to World War II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a Jacobite). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one. Now those traitors have apparently occupied the high ground. Yet... we're still in Iraq. Why?...I'm waiting.
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by jw218389 November 28, 2006 11:38 PM EST
*Hey Dubya! It's time to resign. YOU ARE CLUELESS!

GW Bush actually makes me wish Nixon was in charge - at least Nixon knew to quit before he was impeached...

*Not that Dubya would actually READ anything that doesn't say Golden Book on the cover
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by ceekuei November 28, 2006 11:29 PM EST
Every time he opens his mouth on Iraq, he confirms and reminds everyone his inability to recognize reality. The line that divides steadfastness and pure obstinacy is very thin. Bush crosses the line and is now, if not all ready, in the zone of downright stupidity. The man needs help. He is finished!
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by getcentered November 28, 2006 11:29 PM EST

WHAT WILL VICTORY IN IRAQ ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE?

WHAT WILL THE VICTORY BE COMPRISED OF?

HASN'T THE MISSION ALREADY BEEN ACOMPLISHED?

"Is them children learning?... We will be hailed as liberators...stay the course... mission acomplished...the insurgency is in its last throes...we know exactly where the weapons are...iraqi oil will pay for rebuilding...We are winning................."
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by patriotic9 November 28, 2006 11:20 PM EST
Is he crazy?Is he really gonna ask the RADICAL SHIA MALIKI who is practically a GOVERNOR from IRAN how to succeed.Doesn't he understand that succes in the eyes of a RADICAL ISLAMIST means defeat of WESTERN VALUES.By the way,What happened to OSAMA BEEN FORGOTTEN?Didn't we start this war to capture BEEN FORGOTTEN,DEAD or ALIVE?
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by frankly6 November 28, 2006 10:48 PM EST
You can't democratise the world at the barrel of a gun or the dropping of bombs. Some societies just don't want it. When Iraqis got the right to vote they voted in Radical Islamist leaders. Go figure.
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by November 28, 2006 10:45 PM EST
Bush is absolutely delusional if he thinks he can obtain a victory in Iraq.

"Mission complete" means thousands of more deaths for troops and many tens of thousands of deaths for Iraqi citizens.
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by gabbysmom2 November 28, 2006 10:43 PM EST
What's with the excuse..."If we quit now our soldiers will have died in vain"?

If we pull out, soldiers will stop being thrown into the whirling blender we have had a great hand in causing, The soldiers who have already died will have fought for a cause too...to prove we should not try to "democratize" the world. Why do we think everyone wants a democracy...it reminds me of the Christians believing all native cultures will be better off if they are accepted Christianity.
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by mstiger71 November 28, 2006 10:34 PM EST
Bush, I do not think knows what he wants in the war. It is sad to think more soldiers are going to die and that is just making less troops to send over there. Which means there will be a draft sooner or later.
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