Comments on: Bush, Senate Dems Vow Cooperation

Both Sides Promise Bipartisanship As President Hosts Sens. Reid And Durbin At White House

[firststate]

radiob, Ever feel as if you are talking to yourself? I read somewhere that the weaker the quality of the argument being presented, the louder and more forcible the presentation must be. None of our leaders and no party is always right, but from some of the posts not everyone remembers that. It%u2019s easier to call names and hurl insults, than to present reasoned arguments. Still, thanks for the effort to restore civility. People have forgotten how to disagree without being disagreeable.

[radiob-2009]

Sharncedar When we don't have the right to live in peace in our own land without foreigners being imported by the millions.
Why do you think illegal immigrants are coming to America?Could it be because of the mutiple WTO,NAFTA and other treaties coupled with tax breaks to US corporations to move overseas or south of the border where they pay $60 a week for the same job that an American would make $600 dollars a week at.That is Mexico,in China they work 85 hours a week and bring home $12 dollars.All of these treaties and tax breaks create illegal immigration and rob Americans of their jobs.The treaties were supposed to enable the citizens of other countries and promote democracy instead they have become nothing more than a new form of slavery.There is my liberal side showing even though I am an independent.I just happen to beleive from taking classes to obtain my degree and participating in the stock market as a day trader as a supplemental income that the treaties coupled with the tax breaks have done more harm than good.

[radiob-2009]

part two There will always be a division of wealth,the problem is preventing the wealthiest from eliminating the middle class and and everyone else.Soros who contributed heavily to the democrats for example almost single handily brought about the collaspe of the stock market in 1998 through his hedge fund.They were buying up high yield bonds from Russia,S.America and Asia that failed to have time limits beyond 30 days on them.Essentially what they were doing was buying up the bonds with high yields and cashing them in thirty days later at full maturity.Manipulation of the market by countries who did not have the good sense to impose lengthy time limits on their bonds.Look at oil futures they have been similary manipulated and the oil companies are not now nor have they ever actually paid $70 a barrel.Do you see how this dialogue which is non partisan and civil is more enlighting and should get some people to actually get involved to prevent abuses of power?

[radiob-2009]

SharnCedar if you have read any of my post you would realize that I call for an overhaul of the taxation system.The current taxation system has more loopholes for corporations than individuals.If a US corporation moves overseas and manufacture goods they are not taxed and in addition get a tax break for moving overseas.In addition because it is considered a foreign investment they receive a tax break on the foreign taxes and a tax break on the profits. A quick illustration of this can be applied to the individual purchase 100 shares of say SAP which is german owned,the individual gets a tax break on his investment and on his profit plus whatever tax he pays on the investment.Corporations are getting bigger breaks for such thing as building highways in Europe that are not toll and do not produce a profit.There are numerous problems facing America and educating yourself and articulating a position without anger will gather support.Others when confronted with civility and facts are more than likely to agree with you and champion your cause.Part one

[webdepot]

processor2 - Allen and Burns capitulated because they knew they were beat, period... if the vote had been any closer, they would have run to their friends on the Supreme Court... after all.... if they can wrongfully award a presidency, awarding a senatorial seat should be a snap...

LOL... loser.

[mkbjon]

If Allen & Burns had been Democrats, here's what would have happened.

They would have demanded recounts, gotten lawyers, claimed the electronic voting machines were rigged, and CBS posters would be claiming the elections were stolen.

I guess that's the difference between Republicans and Democrats
Posted by processor2 at 07:36 PM : Nov 10, 2006




No, the fat lady was sitting on both their chests singing, that's what.

[sharncedar]

" I read peoples post that are full of negativity and total lack of respect for others"

The wealthy elite and corporate elite have negavity and disrespect for you. They have started this process. The anger I see around me is a real anger; an anger born of our humanity and rights stolen from us by master manipulators. That we turn on each other is regrettable, but certainly part of the plan of the manipulators.

The anger is real; the fake dichotomies we get caught up in are not real. There is nothing civil in a world where 1% own 50% outright of everything, and make 100% of the rules. That is war to the death, either we will free ourselves or lose our right to determine our destiny.

They have thrown down a challenge to humanity - what civil discourse can there be when we don't own the houses we live in, or have the right not to be spied on by cameras at every traffic intersection. When we don't have the right to live in peace in our own land without foreigners being imported by the millions.

The right to self-detemrination is the first and most fundamental right, from it all other powers flow. We are the occupied country, not Iraq. Sorry I have nothing civil to say about it.

[lukebize]

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Remember, we are the ones with the guns.

Just kidding. ;)
Posted by One_American at 03:53 PM : Nov 10, 2006

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Note to all true Americans: the biggest caliber firearm in the world doesn't mean anything when it is used to shoot the owner in the foot. A well-placed .22 is infinitely more effective than a miss with a .44 magnum.

Have a nice day.

[processor2]

So, George Allen of Virginia and Conrad Burns of Montana both conceded their Senate race. But that's what Republicans do.....they lose, they concede.

If Allen & Burns had been Democrats, here's what would have happened.

They would have demanded recounts, gotten lawyers, claimed the electronic voting machines were rigged, and CBS posters would be claiming the elections were stolen.

I guess that's the difference between Republicans and Democrats

[radiob-2009]

Once again I find myself asking everyone to behave civil and to respect each other parties.In order for America all of America regardless of political affilation we must engage in civil discourse.Personal and party attacks will not solve America's problems.Educate yourself with facts and present them in a civil manner.Present ideas to enchance our nation not to divide it.The election is over.We as Americans must cooperate behave civil and agree to disagree when there is no compromise that can be made.Voices of reason and civility will create more of an impact than venomous attacks.I am an independent and I read peoples post that are full of negativity and total lack of respect for others.There are many problems facing America and they require diligent thought and cooperation.Abandon your attacks against each other,find common ground and come up with ideas that will make America and the world a better place.