Comments on: Fox: I Was Over-Medicated In Stem Cell Ad

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[klinca]

P.S. And if the embryos are people, why not a corollary mandate requiring them to be implanted in a womb and born, once they're created? A law that prevents them from being discarded? If you haven't started there, YOU'RE sitting on the fence.

[nonnie_571]

Hello to whom it may concern
Why not put The Aborted unwanted embryos to life by putting them in a life and make them matter.If there just going to throw them away why not be for stem cell research.Maybe the child that the embryo was going to be was a giver.

[prismsinc]

klinca, one more note. As a victim of a brutal bloody attempt on my life, I can tell you what I think of my attacker's life, and so can my wife. (I'll let you guess what that is)

I admit I have issues with the wrongfully convicted. However, you can't deny this fact: If you ask any of the families of the victims of the recently put to death Danny Harold Rolling for a reason that he should live, they'll tell you justice was served.

[prismsinc]

klinca, you're sitting on the fence.

The value of human life, I agree is sacred. Another sacred item is human freedom.
The soldiers are VOLUNTEERS! Many of them want to be there! Did you already forget the 500,000 dead at the hands of Saddam's regime? Did you already forget the 3,000 dead at ground zero? How about the slaughtered 18 dead soldiers in Somalia, ambushed by muslim extremists? How about the 17 dead Navy servicemen on the USS Cole? I don't know about you, but I for one don't agree with sitting back and taking it.

Life is sacred. These volunteers are doing the job of protecting human life, at the price of sacrificing there own, which is just as sacred. Let them do their jobs.

Next time you want to count war bodies, look at the stats for the national US crime rates. You'll be stunned to find out we are killing ourselves far more than the numbers abroad.

[klinca]

I am incredibly anal when it comes to valuing life. I save the seeds from fruits and vegetables, and when you're talking tomatoes, you are talking incredibly anal. I've defied city notices to cut my weeds down. I wrote back that "weeds" by definition are unwanted vegetation and I wanted all mine. In fact, I see "weed" as a derogatory term, like "***," and it's a term and idea I take offense at. To me, all life is sacred. See how weird I am? I am sincerely that weird.

That's just so you know where I'm coming from in this debate over using stem cells. I can agree with Republicans that those 150 cells are a potential human life due respect and protection. I can agree with Democrats that those 150 cells can be better used to save lives, and it's a crying shame to waste them.

Here's what gets me: The people who are going nuts over stem cell research are the same people who won't count or care about war dead and who support capital punishment. If they practiced what they preached, why haven't they come up with better homes for these medical waste embryos? Like how about a program to make embryos available to mother wannabes who don't have the thousands of dollars necessary for in vitro fertilization?

It seems to me that what makes sense is to let the parents decide. Keep the government out of decisions we make about our bodies. If the parents want to donate or not donate their embryo to science, it should be their decision. I'm pro life AND pro choice.

[debrasimons]

I seriously doubt that the number of pregnant women who request abortions will increase because of their desire to help further scientific research. A 12 week old embryo will never sustain life on its own. What is important is there are many unwanted children inhabiting the world now and I am not seeing too many of you trying to take care of them nearly as much as you are the unborn embryos that are not viable outside of a host. I find that remarkable but across the board with the right to lifers the compassion ends where the actual child begins. Embryonic stem cell research is a necessary step in abating and stopping many of these diseases in their tracks. It is a no-brainer. Unless someone is well-versed in understanding the scientific mechanism behind the research they should keep their own ignorance out of the argument. Stupidity only allows more stupidity to breed and then it writes letters which lend further credence to my argument. I was equally appalled when Rush Limbaugh dared to make fun of symptoms he knows nothing about. I have seen many patients with Parkinson's Disease exhibit far worse symptoms in their disease than seen on this commercial.He seems to forget what cesspool he crawled out of and needs to get back in there before he makes anymore fun of people and their diseases. Diseases follow no political lines and do not play favorites, unlike politicians...and overfed gluttons like Limbaugh.

[klinca]

Dear thgdriver,

Though it is difficult without rich text, may I help you?

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Look, every one of us would like to see M[.] J[.] Fox beat this horrable [horrible] disease he has, that [. That] said, Fox used his ailment to promote his candidate for political office. He was the one who thrust his ailment into the "political arena". Thats [That's] the facts!

AS [As] far as I am concerned, it looks like he did the same thing Jerry Lewis does every Labor day, [Day.] Jerry asks for money, and uses our sympathy's [sympathies] to get it. M[.] J[.] Fox did the same thing [--] only this was to sway our votes for a political agenda.

The only difference I see is, Jerry tells us up front he is working our heart strings and M[.] J[.] Fox did not, although its [it's] clear thats [that's] what he was doing.

Fox would want to show his ailment in the worst light to get his point across. . [remove extra period] If he showed none of the symptoms,(as I have seen him recently many times)[comma goes here, not before parentheses] would the message be as strong?

What Fox did was the right thing in his mind and it certainly seems to have worked with the "help" of Rush Limbaugh.


Posted by thgdriver at 04:01 PM : Oct 28, 2006
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With sincere best wishes,

[klinca]

Idea for webmaster: Run these comments in two columns, left-right, pro-con, maybe with a third column for comments outside the box. I'm on dialup and I can't wade through 34 pages of comments.

If comments could run in two opposing columns, and if the columns could engage each other, we might be able to achieve wise common ground through debate and reason. Put the B back in CBS--right now it seems like CNS, the Columbia Narrowcasting System.

Next, am I the only one noticing the bad spelling, punctuation and grammar in these comments? Seems to be heavy on the right side. (Of course, English is a Liberal Art). Would lefties tutor? Would righties accept help? Would we be able to care about each other more if we could give and take help? Wish we worked together.

I remember hearing Andy Rooney say once that he thought America is getting stupider. Or less educated. Maybe his was the LAST greatest generation. I can't find it now looking through his past 60 Minutes segments. But I do find his essay on the waste of Pentagon spending, making the comparison between the education we trade off to buy all that military bloat: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/22/60minutes/rooney/main650949.shtml. You could do worse than go over and spend a few minutes with Andy Rooney.

[thgdriver]

To prismsinc

Ok, anything you say, Can we move on now?

[prismsinc]

Even if I did miss your point, your logic is severely flawed. Jerry Lewis doesn't peddle for one candidate and trash another. How can you see any similarities here? Your point is rendered useless by your false analogy.

[thgdriver]

I see your point prismsinc, I believe you missed mine. I won't bother spelling it out for you.

[prismsinc]

"Look, every one of us would like to see M J Fox beat this horrable disease"

Totally true

"Fox used his ailment to promote his candidate for political office"

needs clarification

"the issue that Mr. Fox is ignoring, is that he accused one of the candidates of "not caring" about people with similar diseases. That was a cheap shot"

clarified. now,

"AS far as I am concerned, it looks like he did the same thing Jerry Lewis does every Labor day"

Really? I don't recall Jerry Lewis trashing a sitting Senator. Can you give us an example?

[prismsinc]

kesac4650, even if the truth were told about stem-cell research by thousands of bullhorns, the mainstream press would relentlessly pursue any and all means to discredit them, mischaracterize them, or silence them.

[thgdriver]

Look, every one of us would like to see M J Fox beat this horrable disease he has, that said, Fox used his ailment to promote his candidate for political office. He was the one who thrust his ailment into the "political arena". Thats the facts!

AS far as I am concerned, it looks like he did the same thing Jerry Lewis does every Labor day, Jerry asks for money, and uses our sympathy's to get it. M J Fox did the same thing only this was to sway our votes for a political agenda.

The only difference I see is, Jerry tells us up front he is working our heart strings and M J Fox did not, although its clear thats what he was doing.

Fox would want to show his ailment in the worst light to get his point across. . If he showed none of the symptoms,(as I have seen him recently many times) would the message be as strong?

What Fox did was the right thing in his mind and it certainly seems to have worked with the "help" of Rush Limbaugh.

[kesac4650]

I believe the issue that Mr. Fox is ignoring, is that he accused one of the candidates of "not caring" about people with similar diseases. That was a cheap shot, and one that he seems to have skirted every since.
Stem cell research is increasing by about 400% a year thru private funding. Many Americans do have a problem with their tax money going to fund something that may further encourage abortions, whose count now stands at approximately 1,500,000 a year in the United States.
There is no evidence yet that stem cell research will find a cure for Mr. Fox's condition. Many people are guessing that it will find a cure for a myriad of ills, although none have been proven yet.
If the proponents of this research would tell us the truth and the whole truth, about the sources of material, the processes used, the hoped for benefits, and the evidence that gives us those hopes, the American people will come to the right conclusion. We probably should also be told, who gets the money.
As it is now, we are fed infomercials and sales pitchs, which leave us to wonder what we are not being told, and why is it necesary to resort to character assasinations against those who disagree.

[prismsinc]

"but think a few cells, too small to be seen without a microscope, are valuable enough to let other innocent people suffer for the rest of their lives with terrible medical conditions"

A classic example of moral bankruptcy. Libs will go out of their way to protect lab rats from experimentation, but have no problem hacking up unborn human life for the sake of keeping their cash-cow issue on the table, abortion.

[prismsinc]

my_obsession, this posting is about Dem mischaracterization of senator Talent's position, not your lib snake-oil socialist agenda. I see that, as a typical wacko lefty, you couldn't wait to trash me, then glorify your welfare state concepts. Typical lib.

[pilgrimsway-2009]

again people do not want to be told what to do! They want what they want when they want it and how they want it with no regards to the consequences it may bring down the road if not right now. People want self answers and not right and wrong answers and then they try to justify there self answers as being good for everyone else as if they are right. This religion people speak about is there own mirror for not doing right but doing self. Hope is not hope when it is wrong and it is not hope when it is self.

[my_obsession]

If you have been reading the many responses to this article, I hope you have come to the same conclusion that I have and that is that "prismsinc" is basically a Republican nutcase.
Democrats believe in sharing the wealth with those less fortunate, making decisions based on science, not a particular religious belief, respecting ALL other non violent religious beliefs, protecting our seniors from insufficient health care and high taxation. We don't buy the Republican concept of confiscating American made drugs sent back to the USA in order to make Americans drug companies rich, by supporting the idea that the drug companies will go broke if Americans don't pay unaffordable prices for their products. We believe in a woman's right to make her own health choices, in encourageing embryonic stem cell research, not because we all have a dreaded health condition but because we are the party of compassionate. We do not understand conservatives who send our children to die at war, or sentence criminals to death (in spite of many cases of proved innocence later)but think a few cells, too small to be seen without a microscope, are valuable enough to let other innocent people suffer for the rest of their lives with terrible medical conditions.

[prismsinc]

Are you libs in denial? Or do you really think you can pull the wool over our eyes this easy? Why can't you just admit it:

stem-cell research=abortion

Just admit it! You need a head shrink if you truly can't see this.

Advancing this policy by lying to us will only make matters worse for you.