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by whatithink-2009 October 26, 2006 8:44 PM EDT
The sad issue that I see here is that we have very narrow views of good and bad depending on who the messenger is. Some of the people who are here defending Rush L. would be in an uproar if those same words came out of the mouth of George Clooney or Jesse Jackson or The Dixie Chicks. Same thing if the latter three were found abusing drugs. However, since Rush L. is a friend you find yourselves needing to defend him and I find this completely hypocritical.
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by huskerarmy October 26, 2006 8:41 PM EDT
"And regardless of the attempts to make him look like a monster, he didn't do it in a vicious way."

I've listened to the tape of Rush attacking M J Fox several times. You can hear the venom in his voice. He called Fox's "act" a diliberate exaggeration and labeled it as "discraceful." Just my humble opin but, sounded viscous to me.
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by huskerarmy October 26, 2006 8:35 PM EDT
Great post Captain!
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by huskerarmy October 26, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
In 1994, M J Fox appeared in a campaign commercial for Sen. Arlen Spector(R). Nobody from the left attacked him for it. I submit that most of you are completely dishonest in criticizing Fox and/or defending Rush. It's not what Fox said or how he said it... It's who he said it for.
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by bluestardad October 26, 2006 8:04 PM EDT
STEP BACK FROM FEAR!
We in America need to pull back from this Frenzy of Fear that has spellbound us since September 11, 2001. I am not saying to let down our guard or not be prudent with our Law enforcement, Intelligence agencies or Military as their constant job is to protect the American people and they do it well. Rationally speaking it is more likely that a person will be killed in a car accident on the way to get milk than killed by a Terrorist in America. Hispanics coming across our border for work are not the terrorist or the enemy. Unfair trade practices initiated by our government are the cause of our jobs leaving and the demise of the Middle Class in America not some Terrorist plot. Political Parties have been using fear in an attempt to maintain power in this country. Americans do the math you are more likely to do yourself bodily harm than to be harmed by a Terrorist. America is a Land of Opportunity and hopes where people live in Freedom. America is not a land were people will be governed by Fear.

Michael C. Boetjer
Captain U. S. Army
Double Blue Star Father
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by scotcree October 26, 2006 7:30 PM EDT
jjasonham:

"If I recall, Clooney never said that Heston was exploiting his disease for a cause. Clooney was still a bit of a jerk for saying he deserved it for supporting the NRA."

I suppose that makes Clooney either vicious or petty, depending upon your point of view. But all that means is that Limbaugh was making a valid point. And regardless of the attempts to make him look like a monster, he didn't do it in a vicious way.

In fact, no one on the right that I know of wishes ill for Fox.

I'm afraid that Fox has put himself in the political arena. He, at least, seems to know that he did. Limbaugh's comments were probably unnecessary, since it's obvious that Fox might certainly do just what Limbaugh said he did - and so what? But Limbaugh's other comments, that Fox is being used, intentionally or otherwise, to pull heartstrings, are being ignored strenuously. Non-embryonic stem cell research has, to date, been much more effective than embryonic stem cell research. Umbilical cord research is proving very interesting, and there will always be plenty of those. Why are those comments of Limbaugh being ignored? Democrats don't seem to be helping stem cell research so much as attempting to redirect research away from demonstrably productive arenas to less productive ones. So cloning isn't the goal? Sure looks funny, then.

I don't really think the democrats Fox is stumping for care about him one way or the other.
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by carolinamac-2009 October 26, 2006 7:20 PM EDT
Again TCinHOUSTON...you're exactly on point. I had a mini discussion here yesterday with a guy who was perfectly valid in his views on Rush, because he's entitled to all views he has. But he basically said Rush IS what ALL Repubs are. I explained that it isn't really fair to lump everybody in the same boat, that there are plenty of Repubs who don't like Rush, who don't necessarily support everything Bush does, who DO support stem-cell research, and on and on. The point is blanket statements and characterizations are never accurate, and probably at the root of much of the lack of civility that we now have in debates on real issues. By the way, I'm assuming you're in Houston...I spent a good bit of time there some time back..Had friends over near the Houston Country Club and around the Galleria. I loved your city.
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by juliemd October 26, 2006 6:58 PM EDT
Re: Today's pop question. Good point about the poll's perspective--how about this pop question instead: Do you think Rush Limbaugh was exhibiting the behavior of a big, fat idiot when he said on his show yesterday...
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by dantepiccc October 26, 2006 6:45 PM EDT
We must forgive Lush Bimbo . After all we know that when he is popping pills he acts even more
stupid than normal.Perhaps the gyrations he imitated on his ditto pothead cam were really a result of his pills. Or is it because he has(as he says) half his brain tied beyond his back and (as I say) the other half up his anal cavity?
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by tcinhouston October 26, 2006 6:03 PM EDT
carolinamac:

Your kind words are appreciated. I'm also not a huge Rush fan. I probably catch him once a month or less. I happened to catch the show in question, and I've listened for the last couple of days just because I had an interest. To be honest, he gets on my nerves!

The problem I see with so many people on this board and many people in general is they categorically hate Rush, Franken, Bush, Liberals, Conservatives, Democrats, Republicans, or... you name it. No one person or group of people is ever always right, nor are they always wrong. You miss out on so much when you close your mind to opposing viewpoints.

In this case, I think Rush made a valid observation. Granted, it went over like a *** in a punchbowl.
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by carolinamac-2009 October 26, 2006 5:36 PM EDT
Good comments TCinHouston. I'm no Rush fan, in fact quite the opposite. But your comments seem pretty astute. Good for you. :)
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by October 26, 2006 5:33 PM EDT
"By the way, why wasn't there this much uproar when George Clooney made fun of Charlton Heston's struggle with Alzheimer's? Wasn't that just as bad?"

If I recall, Clooney never said that Heston was exploiting his disease for a cause. Clooney was still a bit of a jerk for saying he deserved it for supporting the NRA.

"The problem is so many people vote with their emotions rather than logic. The media capitalizes on this weekness. This is why such a non-issue stays at the top of the news heap."

I agree about the emotions comment, but this is being highlighted because it is currently relevant to the voting season.

"Fox isn't stumping for a specific bill, he's trying to get a particular person (or people) elected to public office."

I don't think he just vouched for McCaskill because he liked her?? So he was in it for the bill. Because the bill will expand research in something he's afflicted with. That research can be used outside the state of Missouri, too, which will directly impact him. People aren't mad a RL for commenting, it's the blatant attacking that was in his comments saying that Fox intentionally exploited his disease by "acting" too sick. All because he jumped to the conclusion that if he's seen him a little more stable, then he's always that way.
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by tcinhouston October 26, 2006 4:49 PM EDT
BlondMadison:

I love it! A liberal is someone who will drop a crucifix in urine and call it free speech. However, you're the first to trample on this precious First Amendment right when it happens to be an opposing viewpoint.

Bravo! I could say nothing about you so damning as what you've offered up voluntarily.
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by blondmadison October 26, 2006 4:34 PM EDT
"I urge every single one of you to write, call, and blog every radio station that carries the Rush Limbaugh program to DEMAND THAT HE BE FIRED OR TAKEN OFF THE AIR IMMEDIATELY AND FOREVER."

"Below is a URL to the list of all stations carrying Rush Limbaugh": (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/menu/r
ush.guest.all.html)

Posted by bob7e at 05:23 AM : Oct 26, 2006

Good Work! Everyone needs to get their friends and family and neighbors and co-workers to write scathing rotten remarks about Rush.

CAMPAIGN HUSH MR. RUSH!! IN PROGRESS!!!


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by tcinhouston October 26, 2006 4:04 PM EDT
There are real issues and there are contrived issues. The media spent months subjecting us to O.J. Simpson and Scott Peterson. Does that make them real, relevant, earth-shattering issues?

The problem is so many people vote with their emotions rather than logic. The media capitalizes on this weekness. This is why such a non-issue stays at the top of the news heap.

Why is Fox's affliction worthy of scrutiny? Because Fox used his affliction to affect an election. If a non-PD afflicted celebrity had made the ad, how much attention would it garner? If Fox made the ad smiling and rock-solid, how many people would have been sympathetic to his plight? But, since he, a PD sufferer, appeared in this add with full-blown tremors, etc., he successfully tugged at the heart-strings of his intended audience.

That, my friends, is why the questions were posed.

Don't get me wrong. I have bushels of sympathy for Fox. I feel for the guy. But using this for political gain opens him up to criticism. Fox isn't stumping for a specific bill, he's trying to get a particular person (or people) elected to public office. This affects much more, in the long run, than just stem cell research.
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by awinst01 October 26, 2006 4:02 PM EDT
There's so much hyprocisy here it's sickening. Michael J. Fox was using his illness to promote his own political agenda - or so it appears. Rush Limbaugh questioned him on it, and the country goes crazy. What's the big deal? Fox put himself out there when he did the ads. He's got to be willing to take a little heat from the opposition. By the way, why wasn't there this much uproar when George Clooney made fun of Charlton Heston's struggle with Alzheimer's? Wasn't that just as bad? But no one made a big deal out of it. Given the chance to apologize, Clooney refused, saying he deserved it for his political stance. We are a country full of hypocrites. We call others on unbecoming behavior, but expect ours to be ignored.
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by awinst01 October 26, 2006 4:02 PM EDT
There's so much hyprocisy here it's sickening. Michael J. Fox was using his illness to promote his own political agenda - or so it appears. Rush Limbaugh questioned him on it, and the country goes crazy. What's the big deal? Fox put himself out there when he did the ads. He's got to be willing to take a little heat from the opposition. By the way, why wasn't there this much uproar when George Clooney made fun of Charlton Heston's struggle with Alzheimer's? Wasn't that just as bad? But no one made a big deal out of it. Given the chance to apologize, Clooney refused, saying he deserved it for his political stance. We are a country full of hypocrites. We call others on unbecoming behavior, but expect ours to be ignored.
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by October 26, 2006 3:58 PM EDT
'The fact the media has reported on this story has more to do with the fact that this is an issue that America cares about and Rush's comments bring into focus a desire by some on the right to ignore the problem and minimize it as an issue. It's way more important than just "what Rush said." '

It highlights the fact that an influential force in the republican party matter-of-factly declared that how Fox acted was "purely an act" without anything but his own limited personal experience with Fox to back him up. It also brings focus on the state of affairs in political ad campaigning and the all time lows it, and it's commentary, has reached.
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by mdeshazer-2009 October 26, 2006 3:58 PM EDT
To Limbaugh: Have you no shame Sir? HAVE YOU NO SHAME...?
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by huskerarmy October 26, 2006 3:48 PM EDT
"Fox made a political ad and Rush commented. It's what he does."

Yes and you are very perceptive in recognizing that most people find Rush's comments reprehensible. We have commented on Rush's comments because that's what we do. The fact the media has reported on this story has more to do with the fact that this is an issue that America cares about and Rush's comments bring into focus a desire by some on the right to ignore the problem and minimize it as an issue. It's way more important than just "what Rush said."
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