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President Renews Support For Speaker Hastert As Panel Investigates Page Scandal
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- "Here is a link that further demostrates that the leadership had knowledge of Foleys action years ago ..."
drgoodwin12
Yes, it%u2019s truly stunning, just unfathomable.
Having Hastert in charge of his own investigation isn%u2019t like having the fox guard the henhouse, it%u2019s like putting the hen in the foxes mouth, and then telling the fox to run out into the middle of the forest and not eat the hen!.
ST
"The Kingdom of the Foil Hat is over."
SearingTruth
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- Here is a link that further demostrates that the leadership had knowledge of Foleys action years ago.http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2550501&page=1 Let us stick to this story and post about all the other stories on their collective news pages.
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- "... Hah, they fooled you too, eh. The Taliban didn't attack us on 9/11. ..."
SharnCedar
Well, that's not what I heard. I heard and saw Taliban officials initially deny connections with Bin Laden, and then change their story and say they had been giving him support all along. This was a little before and after they were attacked, so I can%u2019t imagine why their official information minister would say they were supporting Bin Laden if they weren%u2019t.
But you may be correct nevertheless. "They" may have fooled me. With a heinous administration like Dictator Bush's, anything is possible. They are completely devoid of all moral values, and will do anything to gain and hold onto power. However, I think claiming the Taliban wasn't supporting Bin Laden is a little too conspiratorial for me. But as I said, I won't deny its possible that I'm wrong and some master plan was created as a cover for invading Afghanistan, just like they did for Iraq.
In any case, my point stands. I have no problem with attacking a country that has attacked us. But when we do so, we must do so in accordance with international law, which includes honoring the Geneva conventions, and without abandoning our own Constitutional form of government.
And of course, when our own government goes so far as to lie about which countries do or do not actually attack us, they have betrayed us, and those responsible for the masquerade must be brought to justice.
ST
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- SearingTruth says: "we had every right to go into Afghanistan and wipe out the Taliban"
Hah, they fooled you too, eh. The Taliban didn't attack us on 9/11. Actually, as I have heard they were willing to give up Bin Laden, who was only a guy who lived in their country, not a member of their government. He received no governement funds, wasn't officially part of their country, or anything, jsut a radical who lived there in some remote part. He received more funds from Saudi Arabia than anywhere else, actually. Lots of weirdos lived in Afganistan, and still do, it isn't the current government's fault, is it.
So there really wasn't such a strong justification to attack the Taliban. It's like bombimg America for the acts of some weird militia group or something. Afganistan was Bush/Cheney's first sleight of hand, the first clever shifting away from Bin Laden (who they want to protect for some reason). Like with a magician, the first misdirection is the key one, for us that was Afganistan, as if the Taliban was to blame and not Bin Laden/CIA. Fooled you too, huh. That's how insidious these guys are. - Reply to this comment
- "But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ... voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering, the Nuremberg Diary
" ...to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists ..."
Dec 6, 2001, Attorney General Ashcroft
"But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever."
John Adams, letter to Abigail Adams, July 17, 1775
"My confidence is that there will for a long time be virtue and good sense enough in our countrymen to correct abuses."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Rutledge, 1788
"The Constitution fails to defend itself, enduring only in the brave hearts of those who would uphold it."
SearingTruth
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- "Hey,can somebody help me out? I'm fairly new to these postings. How do I inject my responses directly into the text of other peoples postings like searingtruth?
Seriously, can somebody explain it to me?"
bizzzz
I just cut and paste text from the posts I wish to address. All you need to do is put your cursor at the start of the text you want to copy, hold down your left mouse and drag it over the text, then right click your mouse and click "Copy" on the menu that pops up. Then put your cursor where you want to copy the text, right click your mouse, and hit "Paste" on the menu that pops up.
You see, I really do believe in free speech. I am more than happy to help even the opposition voice their point of view.
ST
"I did not like them. I did not like what they said. I did not like the way they said it.
But I let them speak anyway, and offered protection against those who would have them silenced."
SearingTruth
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- "...To searingtruth you qoute Orwell's 1984 book of the same name,it was fiction,this is reality.How do you propose to have stopped the terrorist..."
drgoodwin12
First of all, your post was well constructed and presented some valid questions worthy of debate.
I certainly appreciate that, as opposed to personal defamation and name calling. I hope we are past that.
drgoodwin12, there is evil in this world, everywhere we go. And some of that evil is just as you describe, ruthlessly bent on the destruction of their enemy at all costs. And for some, that enemy is us. These people cannot be reasoned with, or negotiated with, or dealt with in any civil way whatsoever. Our only option in ridding ourselves of this type of evil is indeed to kill it, or be killed ourselves.
However, this type of evil constitutes a very small percentage of the people on this Earth, not almost everyone as the Republicans have attempted to make us believe. Even after all the atrocities America has committed, there are still very few who really want to annihilate America, although there are many more furiously angry with her.
Fellow citizen, the way to fight evil is not by becoming evil yourself. This is where America went wrong. I am a realist, and we had every right to go into Afghanistan and wipe out the Taliban, even though it meant the loss of innocent life. However, there was no reason to abandon our Constitutional form of government, essentially becoming the evil we had always fought.
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- Come on!!!
Hastert wants to save his political life!!!
If he resigns, he is TOAST!!!
Wake up!!!
These Republicans will do ANYTHING to hold on to power. - Reply to this comment
- To searingtruth you qoute Orwell's 1984 book of the same name,it was fiction,this is reality.How do you propose to have stopped the terrorist with flowers,words,orwellian literature?The terrorist who attcked our country on 9/11 beleive in jihad.You cannot change these peoples minds,the only minds you can hope to change are the ones who currently are not terrorist with a comphrensive deterrment policy(not military) I have read your posts in many places and I beleive you are under the illusion that we can win this war on terror with flowers,words of love and orwellian dribble.It cannot be won that way.Had we nuked Afghanistan and Pakistan strategically targeting the taliban and Al Queda this war would be over.But no we foolishingly went into Iraq who had no WMD's or no connections to Al Queda.Yes they supported Hamas,but Hamas is not our problem and the Israeli army is quite capable of taking care of it.Have you ever heard the saying "you can't argue with a sick mind" that applies to the terrorist.The only argument they understand is violence.Reality check time,come out of the sixties and look at the world today.Peace,love and understanding were slogans that the world never accepted.It would be nice if they did but they do not.
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- Hey,can somebody help me out? I'm fairly new to these postings. How do I inject my responses directly into the text of other peoples postings like searingtruth?
Seriously, can somebody explain it to me? - Reply to this comment
- Todays Foley scandal talking points from "HOW TO BE A GOOD REPUBLICAN":
1) This is no big deal. You liberals are smearing a good man who just happens to really really like boys.
2) Those boys were "gay baiting" Foley. You know how teenage boys like to tease. Disgusting little ****ards!
3) Congress just changed the age of sexual consent for children to 1 month so where's the crime here?
4) Hastert said he didn't remember being told about this. So what if all of these other Republicans including members of his own staff say they told him? He's a busy man. Give him a break for the love of God!
5) La la la la la la 9/11 9/11/ 9/11 war on terror....I see you talking but I can't hear you.....la la la...
6) The liberal media, Sorros, and Bill Clinton have come together to form a vast left wing conspiracy bent on bringing our good and righteous leaders down.
7) Cover up? What cover up? I don't see a cover up here. If it's covered up how can you see a cover up?
8) War on terror...stay the course....family values...mushroom cloud...be afraid be very very afraid America....the Dems want ot let the terrorist have their way but we'll protect you and your children.
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- "I join cordially in admiring and revering the Constitution of the United States, the result of the collected wisdom of our country. That wisdom has committed to us the important task of proving by example that a government, if organized in all its parts on the Representative principle unadulterated by the infusion of spurious elements, if founded, not in the fears & follies of man, but on his reason, on his sense of right, on the predominance of the social over his dissocial passions, may be so free as to restrain him in no moral right, and so firm as to protect him from every moral wrong."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Amos Marsh, November 20, 1801
"The principle of the Constitution is that of a separation of legislative, Executive and Judiciary functions, except in cases specified. If this principle be not expressed in direct terms, it is clearly the spirit of the Constitution, and it ought to be so commented and acted on by every friend of free government."
Thomas Jefferson, January, 1797
OK folks, I've got to get some work done now, but I'll see you all again in a few hours.
ST
Until then, just remember:
"The problem with truth, if you're evil, is that you can't fight it."
SearingTruth
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- trueprogress...that sounds nice but I'm pretty sure we can say that Hastert knew and did nothing about it and if anybody votes for him that should be ashamed.
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- I don't think we can make any type of moral judgment in this case. If we were not there. how do we know what really happened. And who are you to say what is right or wrong ? IT is all relative .
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- What a complete loser this Hastert is. He is going to fire everybody else ?This guy is the one who needs to be fired. Not re-elected. And, when he gets thrown out of office he sure as hell should have all the pension and healthcare benefits these crooks get tossed out right along with him.
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- " ...I am not really trying to defend searing truth I honestly think she has dropped to much LSD.However what did Bush do? He did not nuke Afghanistan and Pakistan which would have solve the terrorist situation, ..."
drgoodwin12
Yikes!!!
I would not sink so low as to personally defame you, but my goodness. If anyone's mind has been altered, I don't think it's mine. Nuking Afghanistan and Pakistan would have solved our terrorist situation?
No wonder our world is teetering on the brink of complete madness.
ST
"I couldn't really think of anything to say, so I just called them names."
SearingTruth
"Any who act as if freedom's defenses are to be found in suppression and suspicion and fear confess a doctrine that is alien to America."
President Eisenhower
"We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality, usually on a battlefield."
George Orwell
"My job is easy. All I have to do is tell the truth."
SearingTruth
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- To bizzzz are you referring to the japanese/german detention centers of US citizens?If you are then I would have had no problem with Bush doing the same thing to the Saudis seeing as how they made up the majority of the 9/11 hijackers.You cannot do all the muslims.I am not really trying to defend searing truth I honestly think she has dropped to much LSD.However what did Bush do? He did not nuke Afghanistan and Pakistan which would have solve the terrorist situation,no he went and started a war in Iraq that he planned 11 days into office(sources:AGAINST ALL ENEMIES and THE PRICE OF LOYALTY)no one has ever rebuked these books both written by republicans which created more terrorist(NIE report).You are right he is not a dictator just a lousy president.
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- To TRUEPROGRESS read all of the Brian Ross reports ABC,pages have stepped forward and said that illicit affairs took place.Palmer and Hastert are old friends and share an apt. Do you honestly beleive Palmer never mentioned this to Hastert?It is time for several resignations including Hasterts.The republican party said early last week they had 48 hours to do damage control and silence this story.Guess what it is not dead yet and the link I gave you can look each and everyone of them up.the list of republicans have illegal relationship with minors takes up more than the 1500 words i am allowed . Here is the link. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/
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- "6) The liberal media, Sorros, and Bill Clinton have come together to form a vast left wing conspiracy bent on bringing our good and righteous leaders down"
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- "Searingtruth- First- In your world, do voters make the laws or do judges?"
bizzzz
Neither. People vote for the legislative branch, the legislative branch proposes and passes laws, sometimes with further voting by the public, the judicial branch decides whether laws are Constitutional, and the Executive branch enforces Constitutional laws.
It's very basic American civics, which Republicans seem to have never learned. Or they learned, and simply despised.
ST
"Secondly- If you think Bush is such a dictator as a President during a time of war, do me a favor, do some research on Franklin Roosevelt's policies regarding Presidential powers during World War 2. I'm sure you'll come to the conclusion that the Democratic President lauded as one of the greatest Presidents of all time, who saved us from Adolf Hitler was indeed a Dictator himself, wouldn't you?"
bizzzz
No. Roosevelt, and other Presidents, have occasionally violated the law and abused their power, but none of them literally abandoned the Constitution of the United States of America.
But let%u2019s say for a moment that they had. It would still have nothing at all to with the Republican Parties current abuse of power, and abandonment of the Constitution. Which is treason.
ST
"But gee whiz mommy, Johnny did it too ..."
SearingTruth
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