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Approves Dozens Of Subpoenas In Scandal Investigation; Hastert Refuses To Step Down

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by staff2--2008 October 5, 2006 11:22 PM EDT
yeah, I did it...I take full responsibility...but I don't want to be held accountable...yeah I covered it up...it's only one kids life...but if I can hold on to power I can continue with our agenda...I think that's more important to this country than having any sence of morality...lets face it if our moral compass was working...we wouldn't have gotten this country into the mess we're in now...so get used to it...toe the party line and don't question our authority...vote republican...
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by bellal-2009 October 5, 2006 10:58 PM EDT
Jane, I agree with you about the Democrats. May the force be with your son and deliver him home safely to you.
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by wvce October 5, 2006 10:51 PM EDT
"I was seventeen years old and just returned to [my home state] when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their ******* were," said the page in the 2002 class.

This little snippet was taken from an ABC News report. So no, this is not an innocent exchange and this kid was also NOT above legal age.
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by jsilver2th October 5, 2006 10:47 PM EDT
Oh the Republicans were going to take care of this but they've been so busy legislating morality for the rest of us and you know getting your make-up just right for your shots on FOX and all the golf trips to Scotland- what's a hard working Congressman to do- I want to know.
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by wvce October 5, 2006 10:29 PM EDT
Jane (can I call you Jane by now?), I think you're right about there not being a big Republican outcry for Stubbs blood in 1983. Then again, there evidently wasn't a huge outcry for the blood of Dan Crane, the Republican who was involved in that scandal, either. They both got the same punishment. Both were censured by Congress. Neither got anything the other didn't. If one got a "free pass", so did the other. The only difference between the two was that Stubb's constituents sent him back to Congress and Crane's didn't. The reason I posted about this is because people like Hannity are using Stubbs to accuse Democrats of hypocrisy. I don't think I've heard him or any other Republican pundit mention that someone else was caught in the same net as Stubbs.
Here's the rub. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but I can't find any stories about anyone on either side of the aisle knowing about the activities of either man and keeping it under wraps. That's the part that sticks in most peoples' throats. Some people evidently have known about Foley's proclivities for a long time and did nothing to stop him. Are Democrats gleeful? Well, yes, but the Republicans would be too. It doesn't change the basic truth that we need to find out who knew and when and those who knew need to step down.
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by the74blaster October 5, 2006 10:12 PM EDT
I am confused, wasn't Monica 24 when she had her affair the president Clinton? Maybe the first thing the house should do is expunge Clinton's impeachment and change the definition of morality. There as saying that states "Whats good for the goose is good for the gander". The media is only applying the rules that the conservative press used to evaluate president Clinton's misconduct in office.

Is anyone surprised that the GOP is being held to the same standards?

Of course the gross incompence of the Bush adminstration is getting swept under the rug by all of this.

Vote!
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by iloveamerica October 5, 2006 9:45 PM EDT
The "kid" was 18!!!! COME ON CBS stop keeping us in the Dark..... The kid that Foley was Instant messaging was 18 years old, therefore not a "kid" legally...... So we can unequivocally say that ABC lied to the American people in its initial reports. Furthermore it seems as if the media is confusing the email in which Foley asks for a picture of a 16 year old page with explicit instant messages later in 2003 in which Foley engages in sexual dialogue with an 18 year old page. The 18-year-old page replies in the instant messages with consent offering responses that lead Foley on as a joke according to the page.

Now major news agency are saying "Did Hassert Know?" This is clear propaganda by the media because they fail to specify what it is they are asking that Hassert knew. The fact is there are two seperate issues here that are being discussed as one ambiguous topic. There is the topic of the Email in 2003 where Foley asks to have a picture of a page which Hassert did confront Foley about and told him to stop talking to the pages, but the FBI concluded there was nothing there woth prosecuting. The second topic is the explicit instant messages to the 18 year old adult page that happened later in 2003 that no evidence suggest Hassert knew anything about.
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by the74blaster October 5, 2006 9:27 PM EDT
It is obvious to me that the arrogance and hypocrisy of the GOP majority needs to be voted out of office.

The arrogance from believing that they were above the law in terms of secret prisons, torture, wire tapping and who knows what level of spying or surveillance on law abiding citizens of the US.

The hypocrisy from using a *** scandal and lies about an extramarital affair to impeach Bill Clinton but then saying this latest scandal is a Democratic conspiracy and its alright because the person in question is about the so called age of consent!

If the democrats win a decisive majority in the legislative branch the world will have a huge freedom bash to celebrate!

Vote!!

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by gmond October 5, 2006 9:21 PM EDT
Zzzzzzzzz.
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by tibu987 October 5, 2006 8:56 PM EDT
Read the definition and think which political person(s) immediately comes to mind?


Mach%u2022i%u2022a%u2022vel%u2022li%u2022an

1. of, like, or befitting Machiavelli.
2. being or acting in accordance with the principles of government analyzed in Machiavelli's The Prince, in which political expediency is placed above morality and the use of craft and deceit to maintain the authority and carry out the policies of a ruler is described.
3. characterized by subtle or unscrupulous cunning, deception, expediency, or dishonesty: He resorted to Machiavellian tactics in order to get ahead.

%u2014n.
a follower of the principles analyzed or described in The Prince, esp. with reference to techniques of political manipulation. Also,Mach"i%u2022a%u2022vel'i%u2022an.

Random House Unabridged Dictionary, Copyright ) 1997, by Random House, Inc., on Infoplease.

Machiavelli
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by totallyfedup-2009 October 5, 2006 8:30 PM EDT
A good person would have taken steps to protect teenagers from a man who was known to be sending inappropriate e-mails. A good person who just six weeks before was in his home state speaking at a "Keeping Kids Safe in Cyberspace" event.

"The Internet has forever changed the way we find information and communicate - and it has become a way of life for our kids," Hastert said in announcing the event. "But with these advances come new challenges, including how to stop predators. This event brings people together to share information, and talk about what we can all do to protect children."
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by huskerarmy October 5, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
Can't shut up,

The impetus for this hatred of government comes from an understanding that it is the only official mechanism designed to be "Of the people..." It is the manifestation of popular will and the plutocrats see government as the main obstacle to it's dominance over, and exploitation of, the masses. We saw the destruction of FEMA and the consequences after Katrina. And in the aftermath, the windfall for the plutocrats.
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by ender18-2009 October 5, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
POPEface
Republicans are scary because they are willing to protect pedophiles and place children at risk to maintain their political power, they support a lying unintelligent president who brought us into a short sighted war, and they are willing to sell out their friends for their own gain (e.g. John McCain by GW in the presidential campaign.)

Republicans claim to promote individualism and privacy, while they tell people what religion they must believe in and who they can love. They meddle in local/state politics to keep a brain dead woman alive.

They want to force everyone avoid all forms contraception, are anti-abortion and do not want to provide services to help these children and mothers.

They want to arm the entire general population with semi-automatic weapons, so we can see more repressed mentally ill people shoot innocent people.

This country has been screwed up by republicans for the past 6 years.
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by cantshutup October 5, 2006 8:06 PM EDT
there was a really interesting program on pbs with Bill Moyer last night about the rampant corruption within the republican party...the discussion included corruption within the democratic party as well but the focus was on the increasing levels of blatant corruption within the republican party...the speaker eluded to the fact that some of corruption is not completely understood and that it stems from a deep hatred for government...now, to me that doesn't make sense but maybe i don't understand all of what was said...is it that hatred for government is so deep that some politicians are willing to screw EVERYONE to cause the eventual fall of our government? did anyone else see the program I'm referring to?
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by cantshutup October 5, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
*stole the ELECTIONS! (oops)
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by cantshutup October 5, 2006 8:01 PM EDT
with all the lies and hypocracy from republicans (dems are hardly faultless either), even with public outrage over this latest scandal, if the republicans stole the 2000 and in 2004...what makes anyone think we'll have uncorrupted elections next month??? they are going to rob us again and they won't bat an eye...i believe it's going to have to take MASSIVE protests nationwide to get these scumbags OUT!!! these latest accusations are just the tip of the iceburg with these liars and thieves!
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by huskerarmy October 5, 2006 7:50 PM EDT
In other news (continued)

Bush declares "absolute proof" of WMD's in Iraq

Iraq war is over. Bush declares "Mission Accomplished."

A Fox news poll indicates Bush approval rating now soaring to over 108%, validating his share of the Ohio vote.

Osama Bin Laden... Oh nevermind!
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by ronald56_98 October 5, 2006 7:43 PM EDT



House Speaker Dennis Hastert, back in June launched, what he
call, "American Values Agenda," all the while knowing
of the inappropriate conduct of Mark Foley.

Clearly, Hastert's "American Values Agenda" was nothing but a smoke screen,
an insult on the intelligence of the American people.

Hastert has surrender all his integrity for political gain.

Clearly, Hastert should not only resign as Speaker but from Congress.

His inability to end this fiasco when it was brought to his
attention demonstrates he has no leadership ability.



Ex-GOP Aide: Hastert Knew 3 Years Ago
A Republican congressional aide who counseled Rep. Mark Foley to resign last week said he told House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office three years ago about Foley's inappropriate conduct with teenage pages, the earliest known alert to GOP leadership. More...
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/29/eveningnews/main1767057.shtml



WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006
House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R.-Ill., just unveiled what he calls
an "American Values Agenda," which reads like a Top 10 greatest hits.
On the list: a bill ensuring that Americans can display the flag
at home and one that lets citizens keep their guns during disasters.

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by ronald56_98 October 5, 2006 7:42 PM EDT



House Speaker Dennis Hastert, back in June launched, what he
call, "American Values Agenda," all the while knowing
of the inappropriate conduct of Mark Foley.

Clearly, Hastert's "American Values Agenda" was nothing but a smoke screen,
an insult on the intelligence of the American people.

Hastert has surrender all his integrity for political gain.

Clearly, Hastert should not only resign as Speaker but from Congress.

His inability to end this fiasco when it was brought to his
attention demonstrates he has no leadership ability.



Ex-GOP Aide: Hastert Knew 3 Years Ago
A Republican congressional aide who counseled Rep. Mark Foley to resign last week said he told House Speaker Dennis Hastert's office three years ago about Foley's inappropriate conduct with teenage pages, the earliest known alert to GOP leadership. More...
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/29/eveningnews/main1767057.shtml



WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006
House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R.-Ill., just unveiled what he calls
an "American Values Agenda," which reads like a Top 10 greatest hits.
On the list: a bill ensuring that Americans can display the flag
at home and one that lets citizens keep their guns during disasters.

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by pearman7 October 5, 2006 7:40 PM EDT
George Allen is in big trouble if Zogby has him up by double digits... If I recall, didn't Zogby have Kerry winning the presidency in 2004? Give me a break, Popeface!! YOu still on that CBS liberal bias ***? Don't you people have your own network now-- FOX News, the Grape Kool-Aid Channel?? Jeez...
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